81_Hiding Is Not a Strategy: Chris Grollnek on Active-Shooter Reality

🚨 “It’ll never happen here.”That mindset could cost lives. In this powerful episode, active-shooter prevention expert Chris Grollnek joins hosts Jason Perez and Wesley Long to break down what real readiness looks like—far beyond “run, hide, fight.” Chris shares how his on-duty experience changed his life and how schools, businesses, and families can prepare for the unthinkable without fear-mongering.💡 In this episode:✅ Why hiding is not a survival strategy✅ What a survivable plan looks like for schools & staff✅ The real timeline: police response vs. medical care✅ Why bleeding-control skills save more lives than heroics✅ How media & movies distort public expectations✅ Free child-friendly guides for hard conversations 🎓 Guest:Chris Grollnek – Founder of the Active Shooter Prevention Project (ASPP), retired Marine & law-enforcement officer, and national threat-management consultant.🌐 Website: activeshooterpreventionproject.com🧩 Next Episode (Part 2): Chris shares his PRO Model and actionable prevention steps for every organization.⏱️ Chapters 00:00 – 🚨 Cold Open: “It’ll Never Happen Here”00:24 – 🎧 Title Sequence | DisasterClass Podcast Intro00:35 – 🙌 Hosts Introduction: Jason & Wesley00:53 – ⚖️ The Weight of the Topic01:12 – 👮 Meet Chris Grollnek – Active Shooter Expert02:45 – 🎖️ Chris’s Journey from Marine to Law Enforcement03:35 – 💥 The Day Everything Changed05:00 – 🎙️ Why Chris Rarely Speaks Out06:40 – 🧩 Preparedness vs. Perception07:30 – 🕐 Start Today: “Nothing Will Ever Be Perfect”08:50 – 🏫 Defining Preparedness for Schools10:20 – 📖 Redefining ‘Active Shooter’12:45 – 🎓 Training the Right Way13:30 – 👶 Free Children’s Resource Guide15:00 – 🚫 Run, Hide, Fight? Not Always.16:00 – 🧍‍♂️ Who Are the Real First Responders?18:20 – 💡 Fear Sells, But Fear Doesn’t Solve19:00 – 🎬 Media & Movie Influence on Public Perception21:30 – ⏳ The Real Response Timeline23:20 – 🩸 Bleeding Control Saves Lives27:00 – ❤️ Shift from Heroics to Help29:40 – 🛑 Stop the Bleed & Realistic Readiness30:10 – 🎲 Sponsor Break: EM Disaster Gaming – Wildfire Mayhem30:33 – 🔁 Reflection & Takeaways31:00 – 🧠 Next Episode Teaser: The PRO Model31:15 – 🎓 Outro | Stay Prepared. Stay Educated. Stay Equipped.🔗 Sponsors & Partners🔗 Sponsors & Partners🧢 Sawyer ProductsSawyer offers the most advanced solutions for protection against sun, bugs, water, and injuries—everything from high-quality water filtration systems to insect repellents. Every purchase supports clean water programs for those in need, both in the U.S. and around the world, including disaster relief efforts.👉 Visit: https://www.sawyer.com🎲 EM Disaster GamingEmergency preparedness doesn’t have to be boring. EM Disaster Gaming brings emergency management training to life through interactive tabletop wargames like Wildfire Mayhem, created by a Certified Emergency Manager. These games teach coordination, decision-making, and disaster response in a fun and engaging way.🌐 Visit: EMDisasterGaming.com🩸 STOP THE BLEED® CoalitionUncontrolled bleeding is a leading cause of preventable death after injury. In just one hour, learn three simple steps to save a life. The STOP THE BLEED® Coalition is a nonprofit scaling the national campaign to bring bleeding-control training and tools to communities across the country.🌐 Visit: StopTheBleedCoalition.org🛡️ Instinct ReadyDisasterClass is proudly brought to you by Instinct Ready—educating, preparing, and equipping communities for emergencies and disasters through quality training, comprehensive planning, and premium products.🎁 Get 10% off your order with code DISASTERCLASS📞 Call: (845) 244-6360🌐 Visit: https://www.instinctready.com.