So there's more stuff out there. I started learning computer studies, because they got into E1 from Kini. So the teacher sets them up with a word document in 48.1 or whatever it was. And the teacher walks past and he's got a small on his face and he has caught F off.
This is a teacher told me. F off. F off, right? I said to the teacher, I don't know if you'll tell it, I sometimes get upset and say F off instead of F off.
She goes, well, she does not say F off, but he actually spelt it. I don't smoke, I don't want to smoke. I don't want to smoke. He spelt it right.
Wow, that's great. F-U-C-K-O-N-F in big letters and one-teens it. So then he's going to be chasing. So then try all these hiding behind a bush, because he's upset the teachers don't even into that.
Still a bush. Right? Yeah. Yeah.
Mate, the fuck off was the on-track. Right? So because Noah has this thing where, if he gets in trouble, does anything wrong. Once he says sorry, he believes he's dealt with it.
So he's a man. He's a man. He's not a woman. He's dealt with it.
I said sorry, I've dealt with that. What do you need to get from death? I said sorry. Right?
So he's upset that she's now snitching. So, well, sorry about the burning bush in the Bible. I feel the same. Burning bush, the bush, the Bible.
The burning bush. The burning bush. The burning bush. Yeah, burning bush.
This was the speaking bush. It was a beer. It wasn't a fire. Should have been.
The little voice comes from behind the bush. Bitch. Oh, that's a good teacher. Oops, good morning.
Good evening. You'll be listening to the old talk. Car podcast. Lock up your daughter's kids again.
Big up. This is a good through the note of the fair. He has the fair, so we're left out. I love it.
At you. Full house tonight. At the bad house. House of my Peter owners and coast.
And coasting. And all the stuff up. Good afternoon. Okay.
I'm going to practice that. Everybody, yes or no? Stuart Nichols, Director of STC Education. Good night, mate.
Great to be here. We're going to learn how to drive today. How? That's what we're about.
We are. So, we're going to go outside to do demonstrations. Look, we just had some ondo. This is a podcast, Dan.
The look I just got. You're the one who kept it. You are the book. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. The hell the front out.
You need to squeeze my head into the next podcast. We're getting ready for all race. You'll save that. But no, no.
You're in business and you teach a lot of people to drive properly, I guess. Yeah. From my perspective, I got involved in cars and motorsport. Back when I was about 10, my brothers went off.
All of the brothers, of course, went off and started speed weight in, you know, speed by racing. So, we're out. We're in our way. We'll live a pool right now.
We'll race way back in the day. You know, every weekend we're out there and then we'd off to Gunnar and Rockhampton and all over the place. So, I got sort of shoved into the motorsport. Yeah.
Or enforced into it. Yeah. Of course, you know, by that stage, my goal then was to become a mechanic. And so that was what I did.
And then I was at 15 years of age, left school, started my friendship, became a mechanic. And then at the same token, I was thinking about other elements, which is the car side of it, getting into driving. So I started competing myself. So it's a most rewarding, like 13 years of solid motorsport.
And teaching. What kind of race? Yeah. So, mainly rallying, but also did some circuit racing as well.
So it's been a kind of a diverse ride for me. Couple of strain safaris. That was probably the highlight in the... Stranding safaris.
Yeah, in the early 2000s. I can't have the pilot back. A little bit of a very brief match. Not to put the book to very good items.
But yeah. Not all those lines. Yeah. Yeah, it was 5,000 kilometres of competitive in a week.
Wow. So it was a huge event. So we did a two years. Yeah, co-drive the whole bit.
So fixing the vehicle along the way is just, you know, not only the driving part of it, but you learn a lot out of that. So I got interested in motor vehicles and cars and that early on. And driving was always the motivator. You know, so you could build your car.
And in fact, I became a motor mechanic, so I could build my race car. Okay. Well, I'm paying someone else to do it. I'm not talking about the dual-install of them.
It's all the way. So I built multiple race cars, multiple rally cars. I had a mechanical workshop in late 90s, into the 2000s. And then I left that whole industry.
So you're a certified staff? A modified staff? Yeah, we're talking. I think it's a good guess.
Exports and stuff overseas as well. So that was a cool experience. And then in the early 2000s, about 2004, I started up a franchise playing cars without water. So it was a mobile franchise.
It was a really fun. Yeah. Just a lot of the crap. Now it was actually a polymer-based compound that we used to put on the vehicle.
You can take it off. You can take it off. You can take it off. You can take it off.
It runs it. And so that was sort of like the foray into vehicle playing. What was car washing? Yeah.
It was called Eco-Wash. I remember seeing the magazines and magazines and that. It adds for the franchise. Could you touch the car?
Yeah. So the one, so you can wipe it down. Yeah. We had this spray that we used to put on the vehicle and used to get the dirt off.
So it was kind of like a spot. So it was kind of like a spot. And then it would take it away onto a cloth and leave behind like a polished finish. And it was just amazing.
And it was right in the middle of the drought. So at that time, we managed to franchise that around the country and then 17 countries around the world. So the US, Saudi Arabia, over place. There's still some operating in Europe still going.
So, but about 2010, I left that going involved directly in driver training education. I just thought there was a really good opportunity there to help people understand the dangers of driving. I've been on the roads. No, I'll be right.
Oh, yeah. We'll get to that. And before we get to breakdown exactly what you do. So, I mean, you're a professional driver.
You've done circuit. You've done forward driving. Did you learn your craft along the way? Like, are you sanctioned?
Like, do you just say, I've done enough kilometers? I know. Or is it like a, not even if I could be a doctor. You've got to go union.
Is there a way we become qualified or trained? Good question. In the industry that we're in and what we teach is not really a curriculum for it. So, it's literally, you know, experience based.
However, there's psychology behind it. There's also science behind what we teach. Being involved in motorsport from an early age, I directed events. You know, the base stages rally, which is down in Bateman's Bay back in 1998, 1999, I directed that.
So, you've got to go through the CAM's process of learning safety and, you know, stewing and all those different elements that you do as an official. And that really gave me a good grounding for understanding how to run things safely and how to do things safely. And then combine that with the driving knowledge. You know, you can really ensure that your events are safe and want you teaching safe.
And then, you know, with the franchise, my role there was literally teaching people. So, teaching sales, teaching training. So, there's cross-overs there with the relation to training. You've got the driving background, you've got the event management background, and also the training background.
So, I was running training events for my car park back in the 90s. So, I've become the concept of teaching new members how to drive on dirt. Because my passion was rallying. So, it was like people were thinking, well, I've got circuit racing experience.
I can drive on the road. But how do I drive on dirt? You know, how do I set the vehicle up? And there's so many nuances to it.
So, try to shortcut that and help people get involved in motorsport was a passion. And driving on dirt, like rallying. There's no era. There's no margin there.
There's trees literally a meter away from you. I can tell you some stories. This guy is still shutter about thinking, Oh yeah, which, yeah. It's not a circuit.
You've got a person next to me? You've got a person next to me? You're a person next to me. You've got a person next to me?
What? What? What? Well, I'm just proposing to the wheel.
He's hitting my co-drive and I'll drive around at the racer. No, he's a driver. He's a driver. He's a driver.
No, he doesn't. He's a driver. No, he's in the car. No, he's a driver.
No. No. You're scared of other people going fast. Yeah, no.
Just think of corners as linking straight up. That's it. That's it. That's it.
You've got to turn stuff. I don't know. I just read the story. It doesn't do itself.
It's not worth it. It's not worth it. It's waiting on the Tesla Play version. That's got full of water up pilot.
That has the tracks down like it. That's the last last week. It's a down like, sorry. When it tests like on the last week.
Can you download the track and just sit there and just sit there and just sit there and just sit there and just sit there and catch it on the track. What's up from that? You're getting scared when he was driving. You're driving.
Imagine not even being us. It was like an extra five. You want to pull over to get coffee straight away. You want to be petrified while someone else is driving.
Just catch a bus. It is true. We'll drive next to our car. But I think, really, I've never been in a rally car.
But just watching those trees go past and they take those corners flat out. Yeah, well back in the mid-90s I was running a real drive V8 Commodore. So it was a VH. SSS had nearly 400 horsepower at the back wheels.
We would shred a set of back tyres from brand new to canvas in 17km. What? Yeah, we used to run it on half gas and all sorts of stuff back in those days before they banned that sort of stuff. But that was a bit old days.
I remember seeing that theme red line in top of you onto it. And the road's probably a meter wide on the car. What pace? How far is it getting in top of you?
About 210 back. Yeah, about 210 in that. So as far as the rocks stop hitting the car because it's just being sprayed at the back. I guess why?
It's actually really... You've got to risk the tyres. You've got to risk the tyres. What up?
Risk the tyres on dirt is awesome. Yeah, I'm not getting it right. Not with you, not with you, you. I'm not having a bad guy to do it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a bad guy. He's aint the person not to get in with. He's going to laugh.
He's going to laugh. Look, we've done plenty of client rides and we used to do corporate days and stuff like with rally cars. And you can drive at seven tents and the person sitting next to you actually loves it. I think it's you know, you're going as fast as you can.
You're not. You're really splitting up show. And that's the beauty of dirt driving is it is forgiving as much as you think it is. Tomack driving is a whole different kettle of fish.
You've got grip at heejin and you combine that with speed and all of a sudden the tyres let go. The speed is not going to change. Your tyres are letting go now at that speed. So where you're likely to go straight off the road at that speed.
So at least with dirt you know that the grip is not there. You already lost grip before you started to enter it while which is what we what we try and set the vehicle up to. So it's kind of more predictable. So for me I really enjoyed that side of it.
But having said that the tonic stuff is really fun too because it's a whole other dynamic. So what we've got with rally, we've got the apex of the corner. In rally are you sitting up for the next straight or are you going for the corner as fast as you can. So it all depends on what style of vehicle you drive too.
So I start out in real drive and then I switch to throttle drive. Then I switch to throttle drive and then back to throttle drive. So you drive them completely different. So they all have a different way of driving on the gravel.
So it just depends on what you're driving. But it's great fun. It's a really good sport. Most people start into it and they just get hooked and that's it.
But isn't really driving a corolla once. A corolla is a rental car. You don't have cars in the best handed cars in the world. You can take them at any corner you want.
I was like, I was like, oh, it wasn't my car. We've been able to work in the car with this corolla. I'll take it for a speed and throw this fire type of place up to the hard-turn. So I thought I was a really good driver.
Back in the early 2000s, we weren't going to want Wrex or no more. Before your average basics come, we'll be quite fast there. But we don't do the bike field. Our park was still...
What car was your Wrex? No, I was the dark wheel. I thought the classy car. But our park...
Yeah, yeah. It was great. I had the... It was a great idea.
It was a good surgery. It was all factory. The only thing I had done was I had to do the train exhaust. And I did the...
No, I didn't make it that fast. But if we didn't make it go faster, I didn't want it. I did the... I put the car on top of it.
I don't want it. It's a sweetie to be. That was pretty much... That was good.
That was really good. I think that was the only one at the time. That was... That was...
That was the only one at the time. That was the only one at the time. No, that was fast. They did the taxi.
Look at the car. The whole bike control car is going to get near it. That's the one at the time. That's what the car control...
Do you get some of them? Then they get... Then they get... Then they get...
Then they both don't want it. They just lock it up. Someone at the highlight patrol said it has to have on it. So it must be a size one.
It's been a quarter quarter. I spent its life at Mitsubishi. You're getting ripped off. I don't know what we've done with you.
Sorry. I don't know what we've done with you. Is it an extreme or an important for you? Show me to have it on.
Yeah. The camera's got, I can't say the fence has got the X340i, whatever it is. But yeah, we did have our partners to have it on time. So we do the dirt days that are on the park.
All right. And then we do the South Circuit. We do it. They have dirt days.
Because our park was just like huge. It was huge. Yeah. So we did have the JP Circuit.
They made the full circuit. They had the little circuit down the bottom. They got the car. Yeah.
And I do the, I mean they used to have our driver training there. And then you had the dirt section as well. What was talking about? I've been watching the green tour.
They've got their own restaurant. Why don't we have their own restaurant? We do. They look, they say all that green field.
We should have a restaurant. Yeah. Go from. After half Sunday.
We just have to have Bichina. I mean, you can walk around. You can walk around. I'll be watching the young.
You can see JP on Sunday night. Which was three surfers recently. Right. Right.
Yeah, because they resurfaced it. Right. Ten days ago. Yeah.
Ten days ago. It was coming through the tunnel. Well, we almost flew. We put the roundabout on the main street.
It was a silly. Well, how about the Tesla going around? The funny thing is, some years ago Bernie Edkelson actually said that they should put sprinklers at every corner. If it's a really dry track, you would sort of like, check the sprinklers on.
So we went the track. We went the track. We went the track. We went the way to make the race more interesting.
So can you imagine the guy that could put a lot of money who's made controls the sprinklers? And so, Lewis is on the way. So what we'll do is we'll turn the water off and then we'll turn it off. It's not coming to pick.
Yeah, but we'll be there for like, it's all about seconds. Yeah. You can't really sort of bump it down the rock. I mean, if you're in a tunnel, what racing, what kind of engine do you go to?
So I did some stuff in what's called improve production. So, Lola, it was because my focus was on rallying. But at the time, we had a GTP car, which was a sort of ran with the V8 supercars at the time. And so we had a vehicle running in there and we had myself in the straight direction.
We'll be with the body around. You can bash anyone. It's very sensitive. Yeah, you can't touch.
You can't touch. And that's where the overtaking is not there. And you're a diax. In that kind of erasing, you can know it a bit.
Yeah, you can. Yeah, you can. So, I went with the drive training. I mean, what's the areas to use for the training that we'll teach you?
So, we really do focus a lot on work off and safety compliance. You know, obviously we know, mistake and age, work off and safety is really important. So, you're given the keys to someone to drive a vehicle and, you know, it's in work time. The safe environment doesn't just end at the factory or doesn't just end at the workplace.
It also extends into the... It's just says your own environment. It's just says... It's just says...
It's just says... It's going to say you have a factory with a re-banana bread. Yeah. I thought it was a story about the go-out.
So, we thought it was a delivery driver. And we thought, you know what? The go-out came for the interview, she was the best person to drop. We hired him.
She kept saying, I'm the fastest. I'll be the fastest delivery driver. Right there! It was a soft.
Not only a red flag. But she got once you're awesome. You can't even get really good. So, she's...
I can't remember her name. So, she's rocked up day one. You know, delivery first day delivery. But she was like...
She feels before the people around the world. As far as I like, no, the running. She's feeling... We're standing in the phone.
The tags are up slowly. There was a few as well. And then there was a chick over on one side of the van. And she just dropped up on the rear of the people.
Like, you peep on her wheels or whatever. She didn't just... I just even stopped the car. She was fine.
So, got. Got. I checked the tracking. We were tracking her a little bit.
She got 133. I only put 33. I only put 33. On Canterbury Road.
She was at the hospital. But it's 133. Well, that's what it's so up. It's 133.
It's 133. It's 133. You know, highest. That's pretty coffee.
Oh, it's a friendly guy. So, we should go get it. So, should we be running on this? So, we're going to go.
Yeah, I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I've got a little. So, should your drivers get...
I'm going to have to... I've heard driving a pentak truck. And literally took the top of the truck. I'm going to run my bridge.
I have to be a pentak. I'm running. That's really the best. He's on YouTube.
He rolls up to work. The top of the truck off. What's going on? What's going on, goes?
Like, nothing happened. I was talking miles per time. I think so. There's about 25 miles to stay glimmer than half of the truck.
It's half of the signage. Meanwhile, the other chick part would be like that. It's been so many, didn't it? He builds all right.
Exactly the story you just hold us. Don't talk about pocket drives. That's exactly what we sort of deal with. Like my organisation, we work with recently, they dropped their incidence by nearly 40% as we've been trying.
So, that's kind of the space we work in. And it's not good enough to say someone's with a licence. They can drive because we all know that there's different levels of being able to drive. And so you're going to give them the keys, you're working on them.
Next thing, they've gone off and damaged it or damaged someone else. And your brain reputation's gone. All different things can be done. It's not that you do your test.
You get the licence whether it's speed or semi-professional licence in your early 20s. You don't get tested again. No, not to be 85. So, there's a lot of water.
It's a lot of water. But for me, I've got about 6, 7 metres in the fleet. I've got four cars that are exactly the same age. One has been driven by someone who could not drive.
That pole jumped out. And the other one is driven by someone who's quite sensible and values the vehicle. One looks like shit. And the other one's perfect for the same age.
The one looks great. But you're right, different drivers do. So that, we do a lot of work with the fleet space. So fleet advisories is one of our good mates.
And Paul will tell you that vehicle that's damaged is going to get you less when you go to sell it than the one that's been looked up. And then you're going to drive it up. That's the route back up. That's not the route back.
Yeah, well, something happens to it in regular fare. And big professional drivers. They think about your brandy one on the side. That's the problem.
So if you do drive at a high-risk at a hundred-thousand, that's the hospital. And then you're going to get the one thirty-thousand. It's your name on the side of the truck. And all the companies have got the re-100 and- Yeah, and look, this is where it gets really messy.
Because I think that's probably dropped the mood just a little bit here. Let's just say that driving has taken someone out. They've had a crash. Fatality.
You know, they're still alive, maybe injured, but the other person's dead. Next thing, work cover comes in. They want to know everything about what your process was with that driver. Or what's your driving policy like?
What's your training ranging like? What's the vehicle maintenance like? And next thing, I'll shut you down. It's like you're coming in here next week.
I'm not going to question the answer. Does it not mean insurance? I did a drive-training course and they rang up in our notes. I said, do I get a discount?
No, I recognise it. Yeah, and for Cardone, it's not for professional drivers. So you know, I think it's not for that. Yeah, look, some organisations will.
There was different insurance companies like I think, Shannon's, for instance, who are really good for motoring enthusiasts. And, you know, I've got no association with them, but I do know that they do look after me in the past so I'll get a plug. But they'll obviously look at things like that and say, well, you're a motoring enthusiast and you've gone to the trouble getting this and you're driving your pride and joy. You're not going to want to crash.
We're going to give you a better brief. Yeah. And that's a part of the future. You know, it's the future where these things should go with insurance.
You know, I get that many calls from people saying, look, I've just, I think I've lost my licence. Can I come into a call so it looks good when I go to court? It's too late after the fact. So we're trying to prevent these things from happening.
And look, there's some basic things that we can follow that will make life easier for you no matter what. I've got younger kids. My illness is really, my illness is really dry. People are like, I'm just giving them.
You know, they're all people. You're almost ready. Just be 15 and she'll be totally. And they've got a lot of friends and other kids, they're all starting to drive.
They always ask the question. I know, they ask me for some reason. Maybe one couple of customers. That's probably what it is.
Do you know anyone that can teach them how to drive? No, no. We want to learn how to drive profession. We'll get them into hairy situations on a racetrack or whatever.
You know, I get asked the question a lot. And I can't think, I'll always think, why would everyone do that? As mine sounds getting older, I want them to learn that there's, it's not just all. It's too easy to get a driver's licence.
Because anyone you go to do your pace, right? You are coached to do certain tests. That's it. You do your hours.
You go to hours, shoot hours. All that you're instructed us is coach you for the circuit that the examiner is going to do. And that's what you've got to do. That's it.
We're going to drive a train. I mean, one of the things I remember is you lose control of the car. I mean, you're on a skippet, right? So what do you do?
You don't just scream in the gut, see? They're all, yeah. I said I'm no one. I mean, look, there's different types of train that we provide.
So we used to run programs like that where we would deliberately make the vehicle go out of control so you could regain control. Probably with the modern vehicle. It's really doing it for you. Okay, so now what we tend to focus on is more about, you know, what would happen if an emergency scenario arrives, what are you going to do?
And literally sometimes the first time that someone, particularly people, has ever hit the brakes hard enough where they require that you've got to stop in such a short distance is at our program. So to answer your question when you're talking about the young people, I think learner drivers, they should really focus on getting through that test. They should really focus on that. The safe-drying narrative is just too overwhelming for them.
I mean, there should be some level of thought process here about safe-drying, 100%, but actually practicing it, they need to get their license through that. So their heads a bit clearer and go right, you've passed that test, you've never got your license. You've got a few hours off. Now you need to be shown how to do this safely for the rest of your life.
And look at the skill you will remember and carry on, but also believe in which you can make for refresher courses. If you took a 15-year-old one year before hours and took it to a driver train of course, you're throwing it in the deep, but it's a bit too early for it. It's a bit over the head. If you've learned a bit of roadcraft where the car goes, how to control it, then say it's 17, correct.
They get rear-pea level, chuck it in or drive a train, where they know the basics and they know it's near a turtle. All of those people, these are not about age either. They're people that migrate to this country, they get their health and their peace, and the next thing you know, they're out on the motorway. They've never driven on the motorway at speed.
They haven't driven around trucks, they've done the bare minimum to get the ability to now go out, in pre-kowa, on the motorway, and do a merger at 60 with a truck coming out of 100. You can also drive in this country on an international one. That's right. That's right.
That's right. Didn't they just change the law way a lot of mates back in the day with the Indonesian driver's license. They don't arrive with a finalist paper finalist, but how many just change it if you lose more than certain certain points? Entering.
It could be wrong. You actually lose the ability to drive. In the country of origin? Yes, country.
You can't even build a drive in this country. Let's say those people that I can. How many people are there that are unwistens or sustainable? That's right.
That's the only thing I've ever seen. If I lost, that's what I didn't have. If I lost, I'm not getting in the car to drive it. No, I don't know.
People are... I'm not getting in the car. I've got a bus for three months in winter, and I had a new board, which I wasn't going to get up in the morning and drive it a little bit. It wasn't a long drive, but it was just inconvenient.
But the thing was that I got up, I made the mistake, and I wasn't going to drive. It was a three-month situation. And I got up. Every now and then, depending on, I call it cab.
I shouted myself a cab. But at one point, because my dad was still like, a 30s, and my mum was doing it by herself, and she's like, I was catching a bus from work to my mum's. Getting hurt, getting in the bus again, walking to her, getting at the bus, and get home, and doing the same thing next night. Or they don't get a cab you know, if we were going to be two early or two, like, many more people would say, well, I said, ahh!
I was going to drive me inside. But you know what happens? The system only allows them. No, because what happens is that they get before a magistrate and what they get?
Nothing. enough. Yeah, but at times there was a fatal accident on the front of the front, he was on the license and I was in the vehicle. That's right.
Here's the thing, we've done a little bit of work with the Hyatt-Troll and those vehicles now are so high tech, it's unbelievable. They'll be driving along scanning six registration plates every second in a 360 degree view. So even if they're driving down and it's a side street and you're in a side street, they're already scanning your number plate. They're checking for a license drive.
The license drive. No, no, no, no. Because they're doing your name, it's linked to your phone. Yeah, that's why if you were suspended in your last drive in the car and it's in your name, you'll get forgotten.
So you've got the situation where they're checking for registration so they'll know if it's registered. No, no, if you've ever had a drug conviction or no, if you've ever had a DUI in the past. So yeah, so what of a sudden you're a guy. We're just going to go over for a random breath test.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when people say to me, I get people on the lot of the cops, they're pulling me out of the car, they're pulling me out of the car, they're like, what's attached to your number plate? You know, and it might have been in a previous life perhaps. You know, the system's not perfect, but it doesn't catch a lot of people.
I just think we drive a trainee, shouldn't be one of them. Especially on one day's night, any drives. All right? But he's going to tell you what it is.
And he doesn't even trust me, passes it. But I see him drive and I'm like, fuck, I'm going to get a fuck all day because he does. But you know what it is? It's those momentary lapses of concentration and sort of like, I'll leave the cage just change lanes now.
It's the ones that are younger and more alert and stuff like that that you see. You think, wait, you could just run that bike out of the t-bone somewhere there and it's all because it's all because you're like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, be like, you could just run that bike out of the t-bone somewhere there. And it's all because these were just getting licenses and there's no training. Especially on motorways, where people are going to change lanes or cop a little tap or whatever.
And then I have a cook that fired into the wall. They can't spend the day with an organization, any organization that could be specialized or anyone else. And that probably tells out trauma. The question is, do you think the government should be more proactive and make training compulsory for five to ten years?
Well, I actually put that submission to the StaySafe Committee that two years ago. And I said, it's there. If they're like a white, we could do this. The cost of training would come down, because you've got more volume of people going through.
All sorts of ways of reducing these costs, but it should be part of your license every five years. If that's what the gold standard's gonna be. And they turned around and just said, I know it's not a recommendation. So they wouldn't accept that.
But long term, it would reduce cost of all. No, no, no, no. But see, the thing is, all the halfway's out here, we'll have a SUG that's gonna cost money. They're licensed.
The license isn't a right, man. It's a privilege. I don't do CPB points every year. From my industry, from real estate, you have this CPB points and you don't even have to drive a car to kill someone.
That's the remainder profession in the industry. So you said what the average one is on the wall? Oh, yes, that's the other aspect. It's actually really bad.
So I presented evidence to the federal senate for aspects of road safety. And I had a senator arguing with me about road safety. And I'm like, what's your background? You're a politician.
What gives you any kind of credence to be running this show? And in fact, I got him out to do a defensive drawing course. And two hours in, he says, I do everything wrong. That was his wake up course.
So he was at a convert. He was at a convert to training. But that process is still ongoing with the senate. And I think that was like four years ago.
So this thing just never gets resolved. And to be honest, we can't wait for government to do anything. We've got to take ownership ourselves, each and every one of us, about our own driving value, our own driving competency and our own learning. And sort of invest in that to go back to what you were talking about before.
We also do advanced driving. Now, the criticism of advanced driving is that we might drive as overconfident there for more likely to crash. But I can guarantee you, after doing an advanced driving course, you will be more aware of how quickly you can go to shit. You would before you did it.
Because suddenly, you're going to be put through your paces and realise, far out, I'm not even going as fast as I go on the road and I can get it wrong. I can hit it, which is a control environment. You're going to do 120 pound road. Correct.
And so straight away, so with my motorsport, I'm a huge advocate for people. If they want to enjoy their vehicle, there's so many opportunities. Like tonight, there's a running spring on it, it's a knee dragway run by the North Shore Sporting Car Club. And you can go into that.
You can pay your money, pay your fees, and you can go as fast as you want. And there'll be safety. There'll be a safety mark. There it is.