It's the Daily Talk Show Episode 882. Happy, hump day, grunks. What's happening, what's going on? It's a big day.
Apple's done their announcements. You crossed what they've announced? Yeah, it's amazing they brought back the iPhone 4. It does just feel like it's a bit cyclical, isn't it?
We should go back. This is late, dude. September's usually the release date. I understand that unprecedented times Apple.
But yeah, I just had a quick look. I had no idea that this was even happening. So I wake up and I just see an article about some new phone and its features. And I think Josh is definitely already pre-ordered.
Look, I am across and I watched the whole presentation in one second, like an hour or so. But I also shout out to Mason. Shit mate, great boyfriend. So I messaged him at 7.30 this morning with a completely unreasonable request, which is like, yo, homie, could you look into the Apple announcement and we'll call you up on the show to get a rundown?
Interesting what Aussie pricing is and how it compares to previous iPhones, if possible, only if you're not walking or something. And he said, would have loved to, but working out and making a breakfast up with Grace. Oh. Isn't that nice?
So we don't know anything about, I don't know what's coming out. No, but then he said, essentially, the iPhone mini is costing 1,200 Australian. The 12 is 1350. The Pro is 1,700.
The Pro Max is 1,850. The HomePod mini is 1,150 Australian. But this is if you are getting the base level of these things, right? Classic sales person starting from and then you walk out with spending 80K on the top level iPhone.
Exactly. So annoying. And so I think, so the most interesting, anything stand out for you? I do.
The sharp edges, so they've gone from the beveled or the soft sort of rounded edges back to the iPhone 4 shape, which was like, I don't know, just like a little sharp. I remember feeling, I had one, I pretty much had every one of those versions of different types. And I don't know, I've got used to the circular edge, I like the feel of it. But I remember people saying, I'm holding out until that sort of sharp comes back.
Like my brother was that guy. I really got an iPhone. And then I started my iPhone 10. What about, do you know your cross antenna gates?
Do you remember antenna gates? Oh, is this the 5G people? No, no, no, no. So this is an antenna gate.
It was actually, I've just Googled it. It was actually referred to like Steve Jobs actually held a thing about it. Like, you know, he had to have a meeting, like a presentation, I'm just looking on Google images and it says antenna gate. So antenna gate was, I believe it was the iPhone 4.
It was sort of those hard edges. But what would happen is if you held the sides of your phone, you would lose reception. I remember this. How far in development does it get before they go?
Oh fuck. No, no, no, no, don't hold it like that. Someone used it as a phone. It was a phone, that's so annoying.
No, so it was interesting because I was watching, they're talking about all of the 5G stuff and what they do to make sure to do all the testing. They have these massive domes where they're pushing other signals to test it all out. But do you remember what, you probably don't, if you don't remember antenna gate, they actually had a fix for it. They created another product.
Was it the butt plug, 2.0? That's where your antenna goes. Very similar, it was called a bumper. Do you remember the iPhone, the bumper?
The bumper case? Yes, so a bumper, it was almost like the Silicon wristband sort of things. If you imagine that going across over your phone, it was just a way if it had another surface in between and the phone, it would work fine. And so they were giving out free bumpers.
I remember those things but I had no idea. I just thought, ah, it's a case. Essentially it is a case, right? It's just like a, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a cheap solution or whatever to a massive problem.
I mean, the question is though, are you getting one or not? No, no, I mean, I can't even remember. Isn't it funny? I have no idea when I got one.
Do I get the pro? Last year? No, last year because we both had our new phones in Los Angeles, I think. Oh yeah, that's right.
So next year you'll be able to get one. Or you can do the truck, I'm sure they're doing that. The trade in sort of stuff. I feel pretty good.
I don't know much about how FAR 5G has spread in Australia at the moment. Like I don't know, it's great for populated areas. Like if you're at a, where 5G is going to be really good is when you're going to the MCG. You remember like you'd go to the MCG and you were just like a lose, especially like grand finals or stuff like that.
You would just lose reception. Or if you could be crowded areas, but COVID got that before it went out. It's over sorted that problem out. And so yeah, I don't know if there's enough.
Like if you actually look at it and you deconstruct all of the different features, there's nothing that I'm like super pumped about. Yeah, I mean, I was like, typed in like up close with the iPhone 12 into YouTube, found this video from September, like a month ago that has the phone. It's not even, like it's a fake, it's not Apple releasing this video. It's obviously someone's done the renders and it looks legit, but they've nailed it.
It's like I've had the Intel. I mean, it's companies like Quad Lock, do all the cases, they get info on the designs to be able to get the cases ready. So I guess it's going out to somebody. I mean, there's leaks everywhere.
I mean, like, but Apple has some of the most outrageous, I just wanted to correct myself. Because Jess gets annoyed when we say Apple R rather than Apple Ease. So like I always think about Apple as like the team at Apple. And so I'll say, are Apple are working on this thing?
Yes. Because she's come from PR and she's got a lot of press release and stuff you meant to say Apple is. Anyway, the Apple are known. Fuck.
I've done it again. Apple is known. Okay. This is like millions all over again, swallowing my owls.
Let's just ignore it for today. Fuck it up. It's okay. The team at Apple are very, very particular when it comes to security and making sure that there's no leaks.
But there was, I don't know if you remember this, but there was a time where an Apple employee, they have to test the products, right? They have to take them out about. Apple employee got a bit tipsy one night. They had the new phone in a special case that hid it from beat.
Like so you would just think it was the normal phone, but it was the next generation iPhone. And they left it in the back of an Uber. And it ended up getting to a tech blogger and the tech blogger tried to shop it around to different places. And they ended up with a search warrant and the police slamming down their door.
Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. I think the company's so big, you'd be scared of just getting sued. Just flat out sued, you left with nothing.
I mean, Steve Jobs actually came back to life and found it. Well, this was when Steve Jobs was still alive. And he was so pissed. It was around that guy.
And they, because they were criticized because it wasn't just the way that the, it was basically like a criminal case or whatever. So basically they could go in and the police took everything. And so they took all of his computers, all of the stuff, rather than just taking the phone. And so people were pissed off at the time because they were saying, hey, this is like a journalist or whatever.
Blah, blah, blah. But Steve Jobs at the time was very specific in the way that you spoke around bloggers versus journalists. He wasn't actually that much of a fan of bloggers. What do you think he was?
Do you think he was a fan of podcasters? I mean, what would he classify them as? Yeah, I wonder, like I was on a rabbit hole. No, I was on a rabbit hole the other day, which was going through.
So podcasting started. You were on or down? I mean, we just got to clarify. Were you at the top of the soil or were you in the end of that man?
Yeah, just on or in a rabbit hole. I was just going to pull you up. I was just going to. Yeah.
No, they, so yeah, when Apple introduced podcasting into iTunes was back in 2005, podcasting started in 2004. But one of the things that was interesting, I was just watching all of these old iTunes, like old videos and things like that. I forgot that iTunes didn't start as a music store. Like it didn't start as, like you couldn't buy music from iTunes at the start.
So iTunes, their whole campaign back in the early 2000s, like 2001 when the iPod came out, it was rip, mix, burn. And so it was iTunes, it was about taking, ripping the music that you have, and then reorganizing all that and burning a CD. Ripping, flack that term. That used to float around when I was young.
Ripping, oh, can you rip this? You'll rip this DVD. Fuck. And so the thing is that I was watching this old video, I've seen jobs talking about it.
Apple got a bunch of heat because in like young people, when they talk about rip, it was like a term to like rip the stuff that they had. Whereas all of the music execs saw it as ripping off. They thought it was like short for you rip off this thing. And so yeah, but before iTunes, there was no way of, like you would only rent music online, like from a digital perspective rather than buying.
So iTunes had done a deal. Apple had done a deal with the music, like the studios, to say, hey, we want people to be able to own the music. But they put this thing called DRM, digital rights management on there, which meant that when you used to have an iPod, if you would even think about this stuff anymore, but when you'd plug in an iPod, you could download your library from iTunes. But then if you went to a Mate's house and plugged into their computer, if you wanted to sync, you had to wipe your device and get all of their stuff.
It wasn't like these like smaller whack, I remember like the MP3s that were like a USB stick. You remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They almost look like a little battery.
Yeah, a cylinder shape, long sort of display strain, very derpy, very dumb. Yeah. Did you have Napster back in the day? Yeah, I had Napster, had LimeWire, LimeWire was after Napster.
It was like a, I think Napster had been shut down by that point. Well, Napster, I think even moved into a paid model. I think they ended up pivoting. I love the name Napster and the little icon at that, God.
What do you remember downloading? Do you remember downloading any specific songs from Napster? I think it was like, what's it called? Ah, fuck.
Teenage Dirt Bag, like, no, no, no, that's right. Yeah, no, that's right. I've been playing that tapes lately. The offspring, the offspring.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was just remembering he's here. He's here was like, the guy from the offspring was like Josh Janssen, when he was 10 years old.
God, he's here. Blonde. I'm sure it wasn't part of the inspiration. But the, I'm just saying in the chat that Jess is saying Lowell, she's obviously picking up all that he's in ours.
The, I remember Austin Powers being a big thing during the time of Napster and downloading a bunch of Austin Powers quotes. Quotes? Yeah. So it'll just be like little bits of like that bass.
I got a bit of corn in my clap. You just downloaded it. I had it on your iPod. Well, you could get porn on there, too, couldn't you?
That was like, was that, was that lime? Yeah, no, definitely. Lime. Lime.
I feel like Napster was very much like a MP3 thing. Yeah. Lime. And I think they were all using peer to peer tech.
But it wasn't till later because sometimes you'd download, remember you would download a song and then it would be scrambled. So there'd be anti piracy companies going out and they would basically, if you imagine peer to peer is it's like people are putting up these files and you're downloading them. There would be a bunch of companies putting up files that are damaged so that when people download them, they, they wouldn't work. I mean, it's a theme in our business to be picked up on how we're talking.
I guess that's what we do for a living in some ways. We communicate. Let's try. Let's go.
The nuts and bolts. There's a few nuts and bolts missing, but that's okay. One of the things you got put up on was in conversation you say, I get it. I get it.
Like very early on. I was like, oh, yeah. Now I get that. Listen, I understand when you say that because that's kind of went over my head.
I got it. So I'm all good with this one. This one with Amy that I say that she's pulled me up on. And I don't even mean it in the way that I say it.
I'll let you. I'll let you. I'll let you. So it's like, I'll let you do this.
I'll let you. I'll let you cook dinner. Yeah. Yes.
And so it's easy to say. I'll let you do dinner. I'll let you do the bathroom body. I'll go and do that.
And so I don't even mean it in like you have you have my permission. You have my permission to make dinner now. I'll let you order. It's almost like when I say, yeah, I'll let you break going to the grocery shop plate, you know, to market and I'll mind to the car.
I think the car doesn't like lock. It's like, I'm just like looking out like I'm doing something heroic. Yeah, I think it does definitely come from thinking like it probably comes from a place of wanting to do. I'm doing the other thing that you're not doing.
So it's like, like you said, I'll let you go. Like it's something that they want to do. Sure. But that's where it gets missed when it's of a task that is nobody wants to fucking do it.
Well, it feels like you're being a bit of a martyr at that point. Like it's just like, ah, I'm away. You know, I will do the hard stuff. It's like, um, if Bri would say, ah, let you, you know, cut the onions.
It's like, well, you don't like cutting the onions. I just call the spade a spade. Yeah. I'm, I'm putting in some solid effort here.
That's only ever happened once. Or, or I'll let you lick the icing off the spoon. You know, like that's when it's, ah, darling, would you like me? I'll let you lick the icing off the spoon.
It's usually in something relating to something good, but I've started using it to shit things. And then also once you start picking up on it, it's very hard to speak. Yeah, I haven't spoken to Amy. Have you let her speak to?
No, no, that was the last thing I said. Amy, I'm not going to let you speak to me again. Yeah, it is a, it's definitely one of those things where like these that I get it. I reckon I've, the other one is I reckon, I think it just must be like a linge answer when she picks up on stuff because she says, ah, you say I reckon a lot.
You are quite Aussie in your pronunciation. Do you think? But I might be too, you know, it's easy to see how someone else is outside of your own self. Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, sure. I mean, you're pretty, you're a little bit sort of. Oh, yeah. I think if there were two, if we were, I would like to see, see myself as more international.
Okay. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, you're Dave Hughes. And, and I am, I don't know who, who my voice, like I don't know.
I like to think this is the story I've told. You're a cheap David Attenborough. No, but the, um, I watch so much international content. Surely.
Like I think that's a brand value. I like trying, you know, VPN stuff, watching, you know, things that aren't available to us. I've got CNN working, by the way. Thank you, Dr.
K, for your help. So that's what you've, you've wanted more news in your life or at least the, the American feed. I get it, you travel and you have it in the background. You feel like you're really international.
I remember when, um, the, uh, Royal scandal went down, not the Royal scandal, the, uh, Royal hoax where a radio station called and got through a nurse where the hospital that had, uh, a princess in and, um, anyway, it turned, went pear-shaped. I remember when that all went pear-shaped. I was in LA in my hotel room, uh, listening to CNN and they were referencing the person that I worked with that had done it. And I was like, this is so surreal knowing the person that they're talking about.
Yeah. Like, you know, working the same fucking building as them. News is so weird. It's like the, um, so I was watching CNN.
They had the guy that, you know, that juice that we spoke about. I watched the Shannon Tilney sent me the video of the guy drinking as he's on the roller, like, um, skateboarding. Yeah, dog face. Is it dog face?
Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Great story.
But they've got like, uh, they had him on CNN. And I just don't know if the anchor really cared as much as he was pretending. But he was like, ah, man, this is the, this is the thing that we need in 2020. Ah, I'm just thinking about it.
Ah, okay. Oh, man. This guy, this guy is a delight. Ah, you are going to love him.
Man, welcome to the big stage. How are you? Like, this is how he's talking. I was just like, this is not the news.
But like, it's almost, I don't like when the news covers the internet because you see their blind spots. Well, you see where they're trying to either relate. It's like they're trying to search for, it's, it's, you know what it's like? You're at a party and there's someone that's sort of like, it's a big daggie and they always rock in and they're like trying to jump in on the cool conversation.
Well, yeah. If there's one of a set of people out of you and I, it's the referencing. Yeah. Are you guys in that tiktokka?
Yeah. But that, that guy, the story just, not that this is about that. We're cool. We can speak about it.
But that guy who did this tiktok and it went viral and he lives in a trailer park with his young daughter and you just tell this guy is so genuine and he's, you know, just done this thing that if fucking flipped his world upside down and he's in hotel like, I hope, I hope it's, I hope it's a good thing. Like I hope it doesn't get to it. He seems like he's, he's old enough for it to be like, oh my God, this is awesome for my family. You know, we can get out of the trailer park.
I can make cash now. Yeah. So I was thinking about this. I was like, if you were a brand, what's the juice called?
It's like cranberry juice, cranberry juice, cranberry juice. But it was, yeah, I mean that bottle is probably, you know, that bottle. Imagine the company that. Yeah.
So I was thinking of the juice. They're getting enough out of it already. They don't really need to do anything. But what's the secondary brand within the video where he could recreate it?
And it could be like a TVC pre-roll video for a brand. I had an idea. Well, it's, it's not helmet safety because he doesn't have a helmet on the skateboard. He's got tattoos all over him on his head, like on the side of his head.
He's got clothes on so there's merch opportunities, skateboard, skateboarding. I mean, there's recycling. He could be a recycling ad. The recycling ad is really good.
Yeah. The area I went into was the skateboard stuff around like electric skateboards. Yeah. So it could start off that way.
And then all of a sudden he like, he's the remote comes off and then it comes up and he presses the remote. And then he's in a small gear. And he's like crazy tricks. Have you seen he's actually doing?
So, so he's using. This is the, this is the worry. It's actually not the worry, you know, being known as the one trick, one trick person. And so for him.
Well, his trick is riding a skateboard, drinking a beverage. And so just having fun. And so he's already done it with like a hot sauce. And he's obviously been paid some cash.
Yeah. They've jumped on early. And it's the obvious thought recreate. Do exactly what you did with my product in your hand.
Sure. And he's got this weird thing. He's drinking a hot sauce. I'm pretty sure.
The first thing I was like, tomato? Fucking, he's drinking like tomato sauce. And then I see he's tagged in a hot sauce business. And so I wonder at that point that what do you reckon, what's the cash?
Do you think? Oh dude, minimum, minimum 30k to just go out on your skateboard for that guy. Yeah. Yeah.
I would say like the thing is, there's two approaches. He's trying to play the park. He lives it. The whole thing.
So if you do the 30k sort of stuff, you're going to play in the volume game. You can have to do five or three or four of these sort of things. Whereas there's probably a bigger exclusive play you would think where it's going for the much higher ticket item. Yeah.
I agree. He's got a manager now though. He's got a manager. Of course.
And so it's so American, isn't it. Just like having a manager. Every person that we met. Didn't matter if they were an Uber driver or working at McDonald's.
They had a manager. Yeah. I mean, everyone's going to manager at McDonald's. It's just a little bit different.
Yeah, dude. It is weird. The internet is a weird place. It just changes your life.
I hope it's for the best for that bloke. Yeah, definitely. But I mean, he was doing it anyway. He was doing it well.
Like just having fun with his daughter, having fun at work. Just seemed like a happy guy. I reckon where your land is like a weed sponsorship. I'm sorry.
He dabs. He dabs. That's like resin. Remember that stuff when we went to this little paste and burn it.
And it's basically the same as smoking marijuana. And so he mentioned that in videos. It has a canister of this stuff around his neck. And so I can imagine him landing some deals there.
It is interesting. Today on Humpday Replay, Crystal Andrews is on the show. Like Crystal. With JB on the crew.
It was great. I was speaking to Seves and Jess and JB afterwards. And JB asked big questions, which I just looked like he ended up. Like I said, oh, JB asked big questions.
I'm like, what about the economy? And she's like, yeah. Yeah. That's about the economy and a bunch of stuff.
So I'm excited to listen to that today on Humpday Replay. Are you off tomorrow and Friday? Are you off from now? This is the last day.
Yeah. This is the last EP for this week. I can spend your leave. I mean, this is me breaking the streak.
This is... I did it with my COVID test. You did it? Yeah.
You go COVID test? I'm not having a COVID test. I mean... You could maybe...
You could get one. I could get one. I got time. I got time to kill.
I can't go anywhere else. I'll be ready to see talks. I mean, where are you going to do? What are you thinking about?
What's on your list? Well, nothing. Nothing. I'll read some...
Read a book. And just chill. What about... Yeah, in the back because I know that we're...
It's going to be raining. It's going to be raining, guys. It's going to be raining, guys. It's been delivered.
The sheds come. And so I reckon Grand Final Day. I'll get that up. She's a week out from...
So will Grand Final Day have a Grand Final on it? Yeah. Yeah. Just not in Victoria.
Okay. Do we know who's the Grand Finals? It will be in Brisbane and I haven't... The deciding matches are happening.
Okay. So it will be decided. I really hope that Brisbane, for any new international listeners, it's usually in Melbourne, has never been in... I don't think it's ever been in another state.
Usually the MCG. It's still in lockdown. So... No crowds?
No crowds. No, it'll be full up in Brisbane. They'll fill that state. Really?
They'll do it to what they can. But that's why it's up there. Interesting. And so, yeah.
Never happens in Brisbane. And then randomly based on the situation. It happens in Brisbane and a leading team. And they get in.
So I'm barreking for Brisbane. Yeah. Yeah. That would be fun.
And then we've also got... Melbourne Cup is still happening. It is? Yeah.
It's right now. It's like I'm guessing no marquee's. Yeah. Well, I just saw it...
Since Sydney, they can do events outside with up to 500 people. So it is all kind of happening. But I just heard this morning, my favourite cafe when I used to live in Shepparton has closed because a person with coronavirus has been coming in. And so there's been a new case in the Goldwood Valley.
Which... Yeah. I know. Talking about someone with COVID, Trump in his rallies.
Man, you just got to watch the video just for a laugh. He comes into the rally on the big... What's the playing called? The present goes in?
Air Force One. Air Force One. Yep. So, you know, rising that and they've got YMCA.
Like, that's the song. Like, they have playing. Yeah. YMCA.
And he's like, at the end, he's like walking around just sort of... I don't actually see him. The headline said, Trump does YMCA or whatever. I didn't see him...
I don't know if it's too low status for him to actually do the moves. But he was just sort of doing a bunch of sort of fists in it. Yeah. Pointing at people and being like, yeah, come on.
Let's go. You do it. I mean, you do that kind of stuff. It works.
It has a vibe. It is a vibe. It is a vibe. I had to do the pointing or the...
Oh, I just like the... They're almost just slightly comical moves that you just like, you know, wobble your head or just like moving your hips or, you know, it's... It has... It works.
It's a thing. It's just... I mean, the difference was Obama just actually moonwalking out and fucking owning it. He can actually dance.
Not now, but he can move. I've seen him sort of get around. Imagine Trump playing basketball. Like, you see, Obama, he had...
I remember these YouTubers wanted to, you know, get to the White House to play basketball. And they did it. And they got there and Obama played a bit of Beeball with Imagine. And he took off his jacket and said, you know, tight white to lean Obama.
And he had a little bit... I remember he had tucked in, but it's like a little bit like you can see. You can see he's got a good rig. But it wasn't too tight.
I don't think I feel like it had like a little bit of... It was very sort of the time. Yeah. And I mean, that's the thing.
You may have been trying to play a bit of basketball with Trump. I mean, if I had the option to choose Trump or Obama to play a bit of basketball with, I'd go Trump for the weirdness of it. It's just like this wild. Weird.
Right. See if he's too payful off. It's so weird. Yeah.
The whole thing is weird. Anyway, it's all coming up to... Well, it's like a couple of weeks until the election in the States. There's a countdown timer.
Twenty-something days. Yeah. Yeah. I actually saw Ryan Holiday posted a photo on his Instagram.
Which I actually really... I got around it. He said he was putting up a big billboard of Vote for Biden. And he said even someone with conservative values knows what the right thing is.
Well, because he was that but he even was specific about it. He said, you know, someone who owns guns, who, you know, has their own meat that they kill. He lives on a ranch or that sort of thing. Yeah.
It feels like there is that... Yeah. I mean, I have no doubt that we're still in our own echo chamber. All that sort of thing.
But yeah. It's interesting. Like seeing that sort of stuff. Okay.
Maybe it is. There is going to be positive change. Even like people aside, you know, just moving towards... Like you can't look back in the last, you know, year and say things are going well.
Like there needs to be some form of change. What's coming in the form of me being away until next week. Yeah. From today.
And the other thing I'd like to say is I've been so into the US election that the electoral commission or whatever has been fucking emailing me. I don't know if I've changed my address. I'm probably going to get a fine or some shit. Have you got a vote as well?
Well, Amyfield, the format I signed it. It's a postal vote. I'll let it do it. So nice.
I get it. I said, I mean, I get it. I'll let you do it. Well, yeah, they emailed me.
I'm not sure. I still need to get a sticker for mine. I probably shouldn't say new anymore because I've been here for a year and a half. How long have I been here for?
Yeah. Quite some time. Yeah. Quite some time.
I mean, can't you do it online? Well, they've already got an email. No, you could have. I'm sure I could have just clicked a button.
But they said, I'm just going to be missing. Hey, you're, you're, um, voting stuff has been sent to your nominated, like your residential address. Okay. So anyway, I don't even know what it's, what is it for?
Local. It's for local. It's for local. And if we're going to take anything from this, it's a remembrance vote.
We probably should look into our backyard. Yeah. Yeah. Check out hump day replay.
It's just dropped. Yeah. Trying their best to fill the shoes of Tommy jacket. Who will it be?
I don't know. We'll find out. See you guys. See you guys.