Yes, the daily talk show episode 883. What's happening, guys? What's going on? Mr.
97. Welcome to the Tommy Jackets hosting seat. How are you today? Yeah, I'm good.
It's actually really nice to have something to say as soon as you come on the podcast, like just something that you can say every single day. It's great. And so TJ has some annual leave. And so you are filling in.
What do you have planned? What can the gronks look forward to in the next half an hour? Oh, I mean, maybe just a little update on on me and the fact that Grace and I celebrated our six months over the weekend. Congrats.
So that was that was pretty cute. Let me tell you if it's cute or not. Okay, I'll say it's cute. What did you what did you do?
Well, so we, we spent the day, well, so the funny thing is, so our anniversary, the six, like, yeah, so we on the 10th is the, the day that we decided to become girlfriend and boyfriend or enter into a relationship. It's the 10th in Perth and the 11th in Melbourne. So we, we sort of split it. So the 10th is the, I guess, official day.
And so that's when we ordered Italian and we hung out during the day. And then this is what you did. This is what you did on the, when you started dating or is this for your six months? No, this is the six months.
Okay, what did you do? Can you go, cast your mind back to six months prior? Yeah, six months ago. What, what was the day like where you decided that you would become boyfriend and girlfriend?
Uh, well it would have been late, um, because it was passing over midnight, but I think, I think we just, we just had a conversation about what, what a relationship looks like and, you know, what we are. And so, and then it was sort of just from there, it was like, okay, well, like this is a relationship. That's great. And we're both excited.
It wasn't like a normal, it wasn't, it wasn't that sort of like, you know, will you be my girlfriend? I don't know if that happens after the age of 12. Um, and so yeah, so I was like, Oh, are we, are we dating now? Yeah.
Yeah. It's a bit of that. Like what, what are we? So yeah, that was cute.
That was very cute. Okay. And then yeah, our six months on the weekend, Saturday, um, we didn't do much. We got, we got our food delivered in the morning.
So it would have been like nine o'clock and the truck rocks up outside with our food. And we ended up getting Italian. So there was like a, um, like a spaghetti with, to be honest, it was a bit like um, bolognese, a real, a real good bolognese. And then...
So it's like a ready meal type of thing? Like it's like a light and easy for your six months? No, it was, it was nice. We had to prepare it ourselves.
It was from Providore, which is like this online Providore. Is Providore, I think that might've been, they've got a bunch of different restaurants on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure.
Yep. And so anyway, so they, they delivered that along with some trout and, uh, we got tiramisu as well. So that came and then we didn't do anything super special throughout the day. We just sort of hung out and then, and then for dinner, we set up a little picnic rug and cause Saturday is also date night.
We set up a picnic rug in the room, got the computer, started watching a movie, set some candles out in front, so we wouldn't knock them over and burn down my bedroom. And then, and then had dinner. Do you feel like you've got any romantic tools left in your toolbox? Um, Well, so it feels like the same thing every single weekend.
It's, you order food, you turn on a movie, sometimes you'll put candles on. Yeah. How was, how was the six month experience different to, I'm not criticising you, but how was it different? We got dressed up.
Oh, that's nice. What did you do? So I mean, jeans and a shirt. Don't go too crazy.
Well, I thought wearing a suit was probably a bit overboard. So was it like a button, like a, like a? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a buttoned up shirt and then just the rolled up sleeves.
Oh yeah. That's nice. That's nice. And so yeah, so we got dressed up.
Um, yeah, I mean... That was really nice. Yeah. That was just about it.
I think the candles, the candles don't visually do a lot, but I think it's the thought. Sure. I know that Grace loves, like one of the things I was asking her, like, what do you miss? What's the, what's your love?
And she was talking about getting coffee. Coffee is super important to her. Have you ever gone to a cafe and got her coffee? No.
So the problem is the coffee shops around, there aren't many great ones around where I am within a five kilometre walking distance. Like I can't just pop, like there are a few down the road, but they're not, like I wouldn't go to them for a coffee. Plus we also, like this morning, for example, I made her a coffee. So.
Okay. Do you make one for yourself? Cause you, you have technically not been a coffee guy. Do you think that's going to change?
No, still not a coffee guy. I just, I like my warm milk though. Just the leftover from a warm milk. Baby chino was what you were describing.
Yeah, for sure. And just in a little cup and I have that, so. Okay. All right.
Any other, any other content that you've got today? Content. Um, so normally TJ would have a, an ooshi update or a. No, I don't have any ooshi updates.
I do have, yeah, I mean, well, it's a, it's a long, it's a long what we, similar to what we spoke about on hump day. And I messaged you over the weekend about it. And I've downloaded this app called Feedly. And it's, it's a RSS compiler.
So for every, every news website has an RSS feed, which is a way that you can bring in the information from the website into an external app. And so this means that I can bring in all my different news sources into one application. So I can have like the verge, the age, you know, a science website. It's like our podcasts work.
You subscribe to an RSS feed and it delivers you audio whenever there's a new one. It's just a mechanism for subscribing. So question, the age, which is behind a paywall. They have an RSS.
Well, so this is, this is the thing. I didn't get any, I didn't get any of the ones behind the paywall. So I haven't actually. Can you do that though?
So if I was, but if I had a, a subscription that's behind a paywall that I pay for, can I get the RSS feed and put it into an app? I reckon you would be able to from just without a subscription. No, I don't know. Without a subscription.
I did see on a couple of them. They just give you a preview. So you can still get all the stories and the headlines. So you'd become the headline guy at this point because you can't click through.
If you click through, it will say, no, no, you can't see, see this on a subscription only. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, I consume free stuff anyway.
So, and so what are your go-tos? What's like, what's, what have you got on the RSS feed? Well, so I've got, I've brought in tweets. So, cause I don't, I don't like Twitter.
Twitter's too much of a rabbit hole, but so I've got tweets brought in from Rhonda Patrick and Mike Cannon-Brooks from Atlassian. And then under business, I've just got Seth Godin's blog. And then science, I've got a publication called science news and science daily, which is a bit, you know, publishing like stuff that appears in journals and stuff. And then the verge.
Okay. And so how often are you looking at it? Is it the first thing in the morning experience over a warm milk? That would be nice.
Yeah. Having a little baby chino. No, it's, it's replaced the verge. I don't go to the verge anymore.
I go to Feedly. So, yeah. So I was using Reader, R-E-E-D-E-R. I think is what it's called.
Good, good solid app. But then that is, you then need a service like Feedly to plug into it. So it's like Reader is the almost like an email client or an RSS client. And then you have the service where you hold them all.
Sure. So that could be something you could look at. Reader is very nice. Nice sort of design.
Nice swiping across. Do you swipe? So like you're archiving. So you're actually consuming and then archiving.
Yeah. Yeah. The swiping, the swiping is great. Real good functionality.
I like it. Yeah. Okay. Good one.
I actually went for a walk this morning with Jess. Had a bit of a walking meeting. Yeah. And it was really nice.
It was great. Good weather outside. But I did have an issue with ordering Across the board, that's okay. You're both all good.
I brought the idea to Bree. It's based on everything. It's like, am I feeling, like, supported, like everything from, like, finance to respect to sex, all of those things. I was one to 10, as long as you're getting it across the board, it's spread out.
It's not like you can feel like you're really respected and have no sex and that's okay, you know? But you don't, like, you've got to make sure you can't have no respect and no sex and bad finance, like, that's bad, right? So I brought the idea of a scorecard, like, to Bree, which I get the pushback. Like, it seems, it would be a great use for the index cards.
But have you thought about any of those types of things? Um, no, I mean, probably, yeah, based on what Jess has brought up on Too Much Talian and also what Brene Brown talks about, like, the sort of percentage feeling. I think, we don't necessarily do the percentages, but it's just like, yeah, like, I'm feeling exhausted today or just communicating that ahead of time, so you just, you know, you have more understanding for each other. I think that's probably been the biggest, biggest, similar thing that we have in place.
Yeah. Yeah, there was, they even spoke about this VC. I think he may have headed up, like, Google, like, a section of Google for a while. I can't remember his name, but they would have, him and his wife would have meetings where that was the time to bring up any concerns.
A bitch session. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a bitch session. Exactly. So it's like putting it all together where it's like, you say what I need to improve on, so that then it's not this just constant where I'm like, oh, I'm really annoyed about this or that, or can you do this or do that?
Like, it's all at one specific time. I feel like you're a regimented guy, fairly organized. Are there any of those things, if you put sort of your life hack club, if we were to do a life hack club, couples edition, what are some life hacks for being in a relationship? Um, I mean, we actually, you know, we did do this thing maybe a couple of weeks ago, but it was just, like, all the things that make us uncomfortable at the moment.
And so it was just, like, things that either, like, you know, induce anxiety or even just make you feel a little bit uncomfortable. One thing that won't make you uncomfortable is a Sleep Republic mattress. Go to sleeprepublic.com.au and get a mattress. They're brilliant.
Go on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we both put together lists and then came to each other. And so it was just, it was just, like, little things where we had to make little changes, like, you know, Mondays and Tuesdays are busier days for me.
And so it's just like, okay, like, what can we do for breakfast and lunch on both those days? So it doesn't become a thing of where I just ask her, what are we having? And it becomes this whole thing. So I think little things like that, bringing a list and then just being able to be like, okay, like, here's what we can do to try fix that.
And then at least you're both aware of what's happening. Shared calendars? Are you doing the shared calendar or anything like that? No, there are a couple, like, so if Grace has got like a psych appointment or whatever or something like that, she'll put it in the calendar and add me into it.
And so I'll actually see it in my calendar. So I'm aware, but not sharing the full calendar, like what you do with mine. Just looking in there forever. Yeah, it's getting overwhelming to be honest, because I get, for some reason, I need to work out my notifications, but I get notifications when anyone's doing anything.
It's very annoying. Would you actually, you accepted a calendar invite on my behalf. I sent you a calendar invite and then I accepted it for you. It's very annoying.
It's funny, I just saw it and I said yes. I was like, I didn't think that. Okay, and so what are you, looking ahead, ISO finishing up at some point, what's on the list? What's the five things that Sevs is going to do when you can leave the house in a proper way?
Beach is the first one. We haven't had, Grace has brought this up in the past couple of days, we haven't had a great burger in the past couple of weeks. Like since ISO, we haven't had a great burger. So the last couple of weeks, I mean, ISO's been going for a long time.
What's it like? Like food deliveries, like where I am, the food delivery is like everything arrives cold. And so like something like a great burger that's warm and hot. Yeah, chips that aren't soggy would be nice.
Yeah. What else? I don't know, just we haven't, we haven't gone road tripping somewhere. Like even going away for a weekend or something like that, we haven't been able to do so.
Yeah. That'd be fun. What about you? What are you going to do with Bree?
Yeah, what are we going to do? What are we going to do? I think we'll... Great ocean road.
Yeah, great ocean road's a good one. I think we'll definitely take you guys on the great ocean road. I think that will be fun. What else?
It'd be, when we can travel domestically, that will be nice. Being able to, like Tassie, like I think Tassie's high on the list. But I think that I'm starting to get, realizing, like it's only now that I'm realizing, I was like, man, we actually can't leave the country. Isn't that crazy?
Yeah. It's, the thing is, I think, I think I get around that just looking. Like just, like just looking and planning and scheming what you're going to do. That's the perfect time for that, right?
Like some of the best parts of a holiday is planning and the anticipation. So if we all just got into anticipation mode, but what I wonder is, is there just gonna be this crazy influx? So my mate Naysan lives in Queensland. He reckons every second person he bumps into has, they've just moved to Queensland.
Really? Yep. Far out. And so I do wonder, I'm not a...
The contradiction or the issue with what I like, I love cafes that are quiet. They're not great businesses. You know what I mean? Yeah.
I like, I like Airbnb. Like I like hotels where there's not heaps of other people staying there. Not great businesses. Not a good hotel.
And so I wonder, do you think that there will be an influx of travel? What do you think is going to happen when borders open? As an epidemiologist, what do you, and a travel expert, what do you think? Yeah, well, I mean it depends on like, they're not going to open until cases are down.
But I think, I think there'll be a lot of probably driving and less flying. Like I think there's like, you're going to be like driving down to places or doing things like that, that as opposed to flying. Traffic has been crazy. So really?
I met Jess at 6.30. She was six minutes late. Traffic. That's what you said.
It was just like, ah. So annoying. Like she, she really sort of had to felt just driving. That's what I was thinking.
I was like, oh, this is just the classic thing. If you like something and then like you've just got to obsess over the traffic. I was just crazy. You know, the cars, trucks, buses, all there.
But, um, but then we walked down Hoddle Street and it was chockers. There were so many cars. And then I was thinking about like, we don't have, um, I guess with all the curfew stuff. I actually saw a car on Smith Street this morning at 2am.
I woke up to the sound of like a loud, like an engine and there was a car, like a white sedan, zooming up Smith Street. Like Smith Street's, I don't know, what's Smith Street? 50 kilometres an hour, 60, 60 maybe? Um, they were going probably 100 and they had their hazard lights on.
Just zooming up Smith. Far out. What do you think? If you saw that, because Bryony and I both woke up and we're like, Oh, I wonder what it was.
Where does your mind go seeing a car speeding unmarked? Like it's not a, it doesn't look like an emergency service vehicle. They're just using hazards. What's the story?
Well, it's not a repair technician. Yeah, sure. Why do you say they're not a repair technician? Well, I don't know.
I just, I feel like... As in, you're not going to be in a rush, to be honest. Like, if you're a repair technician based on their essential workers, is that why you bring them up? No, just based on like a white van with hazard lights on.
Sure. It was a sedan. Because a sedan, which is like a, um, yeah, yeah. It's like a car.
It's got a bit fancy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, definitely something sus going on. Yeah, well, I feel like...
Maybe they're climbing away from... Well, maybe they're like, uh, they're about to give birth. Oh yeah. And they're zooming along.
But I think I saw them go through a red light. I feel Lisbon, Portugal. Never been there, wanted to go there, couldn't get cheap flights when we were travelling. Beautiful, it feels like 19 degrees Celsius right now.
Good internet as well, great internet. Good air quality. Yeah. Hospital's bad though, that's the only thing.
Nightlife is okay. Well, that's like nightlife's not, I mean. LGBTQ plus friendly, great, that's what it says. The other thing is like London, London is another place that we both want to go to, so we'll have to figure out because it's very expensive and it's just like where do you live if you're going to live there for three months?
Yeah, so the thing is like Bree and I found a great Airbnb in London and ended up being really inexpensive. Like given it was like one of the most expensive places, we ended up like, it was one of those examples where we didn't have the whole apartment, like the host lived there. But yeah, it's interesting. So if you look at the cost of living on different things, so the price for Lisbon, Portugal, is $2,074 a month.
That's US. And so if you have a look at cost of living, it sort of breaks it down. So a one-bedroom studio rent in the centre is $764 a month, which is, that's great. A dinner would cost you $7.05.
For a beer, for a 500ml. For a pint. For a 0.5 litre. How much is a pint?
I'm sure, you're asking the wrong guy. Oh, it is 473ml, so that's probably exactly what it looks like. So it seems like it is nomadlist.com. It is good fun just sort of exploring.
So Melbourne is number 17 on the list currently. So if you have a look at internet speeds, Lisbon, the average speed is 29Mbps. Melbourne's at 14Mbps average for people playing at home. The cost of living of Melbourne, they've put down at $2,978 a month.
And if you have a look at it from a scores perspective, it's got pretty good scores on everything except air quality. The annual is just good. Humidity is comfy. I think we've got pretty good humidity.
But what they say is bad is free Wi-Fi in city is down as bad. Yeah, it is. No, it's really bad. At least there is Wi-Fi, I guess.
I mean, most people are rocking 4G anyway. Best wireless carrier, they've got Hello Mobile. I've never even heard of them. Never heard of them either.
Surely Telstra. What's crazy is like those European countries like Hungary and where was that? Romania. They're like getting outrageous internet speeds.
Yeah, so I mean, yeah, Eastern Europe. Like I love Eastern Europe. Like Budapest in Hungary is awesome. And they're like, it's really, really beautiful, inexpensive, really cool, like creative people.
Yeah, I think Hungary would be a cool place. Like Romania is great as well. Yeah. Somewhere with nature would be nice.
So you can search. So if I go overall score, so then you could go overall score, nomad score, family score. So yeah, if you're a family wanting to move temporarily, it'd be interesting to see where it all lands with COVID. Yeah.
Yeah, surely. I wonder if that impacts the safety of it, surely. Yeah, so you can search by all of the different things as well. So like freedom of speech is important to you, you can sort by that.
You did your round the world trip. Like, yeah, travelling across Europe and stuff. Like, where did you, where did you love the most? Where would you recommend?
Recommend? So favourite place that I went to, which like where Bree and I went on our trip, I think Krakow in Poland was just it surprised me the most. Okay. It was like epic food, inexpensive and awesome Airbnb that was essentially like a hotel, but it's an Airbnb.
Cost us $80 a night for the two of us. That's true. It was like awesome. They have things called like milk bars.
So if you look at that Poland milk bars, it's like subsidised like food, but it's legit. Like it's really, really good. What are they subsidising it for? The government subsidises it for like everyone, just as it like, I guess as a way of increasing the living standard and also like, yeah, what to expect from your first visit to a Polish milk bar.
Delicious food. It's really, really good. It's called a bar McCluskey. McCluskey, I think that's what it is.
I just found something. How did you know to go there? It was just in all like the travel books and things like that. But like the best coffee, I think as well.
Like it was on, like not to be obnoxious, but it was at Melbourne quality. I loved it. So anyway, yeah, I think, so Krakow is awesome for if there was ever like a world conference, wherever like, oh yeah, we're going to bring all creatives together. Krakow would be a great, like it's a great, great city for walking as well.
And so, yeah, I think that that was one. But outside of that, Serrano in Italy, which it's like a medieval town. And Bree and I stayed there. And the guy that we stayed with was awesome.
Like he's like a dude from the US who'd been there for 30 years. A writer and like a, like did sculptures and shit. Great. And yeah, that was, that was really, really cool.
We spent a bunch of time in Italy. I started listening to Pimmsla again. So I paid all this money for Pimmsla, which is like a, what got me across the line is it's what the FBI uses to learn new languages. Oh, yes.
So like Duolingo, unless the FBI are using it, I'm not interested. And so I remember. It's like, it's like that book that the FBI bloke, he had a, had a influence. Never lose.
They have never lose an argument or something like that. And it's just like negotiations from a terrorist. Yeah. That got me.
I bought the book. So, yeah, I mean the, and so I yeah, the Pims thing I ended up downloading, like their app is not great, but downloaded their app and I have it and I started doing the Italian, the Italian a couple of nights ago where I just have it on. It goes, you know, 25 minutes and you learn a bunch of, you know, like a piece of English. Uh, you're not copy score.
Italiano, you know, what's what is it just, you just play it or you're repeating things back to it. Yeah. So they say things, it's like, and then you say it back. Okay.
What language do you want to learn? Oh, Spanish. Okay. Definitely Spanish.
What's the, what's it? Cause I've definitely been there. I'm not saying that it's like a face, but I've I've wanted to learn Spanish before. Uh, what's the appeal of Spanish?
Well, I mean, I feel, I feel like it's the, I feel like it's a pretty versatile language across Europe. Like if, if you've got Spanish as your base, you're going to be able to at least pick out words in other languages and potentially string together sentences. And the other one as well, like if, if you're in South America, it could also be helpful. Which is one hot chocolate, please.
Which is something that they don't speak Spanish in Barcelona. They speak, uh, what's it called? Catalan. Yeah.
So it's in the city, the state is, uh, Anyway, I'm going to send you Catalan is the, um, is the, I think in Catalan. Yeah. But anyway, my mate, who's from Venezuela when we were in Barcelona, we were on a train and my mate was, he was teaching me Spanish and the guy cracked it on the train. It's like, we don't speak Spanish here.
Why are you speaking Spanish? Yeah. So that's why I don't go on trains. Um, but I actually love, I actually travelling.
I've said this before. Trains, all that sort of thing when travelling, love it when I'm at home, not into it. Like when I go on the tram, like a few times I go on the tram, I always turn to brand like, I feel like I'm overseas. What's this?
It's a complete different experience though. Yeah. Because like when overseas, there's so much faster. Trains are just a bit shit compared to.
Yeah. I do like the idea of doing, maybe we could do a big, um, train trip somewhere. Yeah. That'd be fun.
Just in the, just in the train. As in just stay in the train or are you actually going to different locations? Like trains, Siberian railway. Would you, would you love a cruise?
No. Okay. Would you? I just don't want to feel sick the whole time.
I definitely. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think a train is fun.
Being able to get off the train, um, you know, going through mountainous areas, that type of thing would be cool. I feel like I've done a lot of road trips, especially like in the U S but I haven't done crazy amounts of trains, train trips. Yeah. Okay.
Right. I get it. All right. Uh, you do get it.
Thank you for joining us. How do you feel as a, as the cohost today? Did it feel different? Uh, no, I felt, yeah, it did feel different.
I think there's probably like a different. Yeah. There's, there's a different thing just switching between all the different podcasts and like the, what you're