It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 887. What is happening, Grogs? What's going on? Tommy Jackett, welcome back.
Thanks, buddy. Thank you. How are you feeling? How was your break?
Yeah, good. Just tucked into some porridge. Had a bit of a French press coffee. Not a French press.
What are they called? Plunger coffee. Oh, yeah. No, I think that's French press.
Is it French press? Yeah, yeah. So I'm feeling good. Up and about.
Back into it. Had four, I mean, it's really only two work days off, but I didn't use social media from Friday. Like, I made it a habit. I made it a rule that I wouldn't open Facebook or Instagram, from my phone or my computer.
But God, you realise how much of a junkie you are when you're just like, you've blacked out and all of a sudden you've tapped on it. You're like, ah! What the f... You know, like, I literally found a moment where I...
This should be fair game. I swipe up and I type in IN for my ING account when I want to check cash. And I just, by habit, pressed and it went onto Instagram. And I was like, Oh, no.
So, yeah, I mean, that only happened once on the first day. And then I think yesterday. But, yeah, it was good. I missed a few things, though.
Missed a few things. The Instagram, it reminds me, over the weekend, I was noticing... I wonder if this is really specific whether they do this on purpose, but when you switch different accounts, if you've got different accounts, I've noticed that it opens up different areas depending on what account it is. So, for instance, when I go to my Josh Janson, I always end up landing in my DMs.
But when I go to The Daily Talk Show, it goes into the feed. And I was like, Oh, maybe it's because I've got unread messages. But The Daily Talk Show had some too. Do you reckon it's just random or they're setting it based on what you spend the most time in?
Maybe they know because, you know, like, when you feel a little bit triggered on, Oh, if it goes into the feed, you're like, Oh, fuck that content or whatever. Like, I feel like he's thinking about what I'm thinking about. Maybe I'll do it. No, no, no, but maybe, maybe they have A, B tested and Josh Janson will spend more time if it goes into his DMs first.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what they want. They want the time in the app. So what did you do Thursday and Friday?
Talk us through your day. Thursday, it was just trying to unwind. You realise how, I mean, it's the first time off the show in two and a bit years. The first real holiday I've taken, as you identified, I have four years annual leave accrued.
But you realise how you're trying to optimise every minute. Like, usually in a day, you're like, Okay, how much can I fucking cram into this bad boy? Like, what can I get done and this done by this time, then, you know, it's like you're trying to calendarise by time, you know, putting in times for everything. You just realised that when you don't need to do that, that becomes the challenge.
So the challenge before is, like, optimisation. And what's the opposite of optimisation? I think it's like, you could see it as, like, being lazy or you could see it as, like, careless. But then, that takes as much effort.
So the opposite takes as much effort as it does to actually try and optimise. So it's like, trying to do sweet FA. And, I mean, that was Thursday. By Friday...
So what did you do Thursday? Was it just sort of twiddling your thumbs, thinking about things? Yeah. Went for a bit of a drive.
Did a walk. A few coffees. Did a little walk. Didn't do much.
Friday, though, you know how I've been talking about needing to get a shed for our backyard? Yeah. Well, the shed is up. The shed has been done.
How was it? The shed nearly broke us. Fucking hell. What's the name of the shed?
You think buying from a business called Easy Shed, you think it's going to be, you know, it's in the name. My God. So, my old man came around. Let's drop it off later.
You know, like, life throws challenges. And also, life throws you 2,200 millimetre sheeting of metal when they were meant to give you an 1,800 millimetre sheeting of metal. So they packed the wrong piece of metal for one of the sections, which was like... So why doesn't this wall doesn't fit?
Why doesn't this wall fit? What's happening? Well, we laid it all out and we're like, Okay, now they've clearly given us the wrong one. Like, it's back and forth.
We had to end up using a grinder to fucking cut this piece of metal. I was trying to call Easy Shed, but I did it with my dad and my bro. And I said to my dad, mate, there's been a few family falling outs over those sheds. I tell you what.
Like, just think about doing flat pack with your family. Yeah, that's not great. That is testing times. And so how does it look now?
Is it all nice? It's sick. It's sick. We laid sleepers, like, because our backyard's got a bit of a slope.
It looks like it's full legit. My dad's a landscaper. He's done more metre lengths of retaining walls than you have done steps in your life. And me together.
He's laid a few retaining walls. Anyway, it looks amazing. And we're putting it on. It gets to 4.50pm and it's starting to rain and the roof is going on.
But I tell you what, mate. I was... What a day off. That was Friday.
Yeah, I did. I approached it like I was exercising. Like, this is my exercise. I started at 10am and finished at 5pm.
Oh, it's a full day. I enjoyed it. Like, it's nice. I wasn't checking my social media.
I was just like, my dad and I just doing, you know, in the backyard. It's kind of, I kind of like it. It's like... It's almost...
I mean, the meditation stuff I'm doing, it's like they're really trying to prevent the approach of this distinction between, you know, formal meditation and then every other moment of your life. And it's trying to say that you don't need the formal practice for it to be meditation. So you can take anything. And one of the cool things is, like, a bit of a habit is, like, transitioning between tasks.
So you get up from your computer to go to the toilet or you get up from your computer to go get a drink. It's like you use that moment to focus on the action or the movement or just, like, have it as a trigger point to become a bit more mindful. And so I was trying to, like, in the moment, you know, just like, it's very task-focused. You hold and shit.
I'm like, just... It was all just... You can get into the zone. Yeah, and there goes eight hours.
Were you playing... Did your dad bring, like, a tradie speaker system so you could play Gold FM or something? No, no, no. We actually got out, I mean, I've never done this before.
I got out the speaker and I played Fleetwood Mac thanks to the guy with the cranberry juice. Like, I'm just like, oh, mate, he's another one. I know this. Dad was like, yeah, he's like, yeah, you know, the guy from Crowded House joined Fleetwood Mac in...
I was like, no, because that conversation started with, Dad, you're not a music guy, are you? Yeah, yeah, I am. Beach Boys, Beach Boys, Eagles. I mean, he's just reeling off the cassette tapes that we'd play on family holidays when we'd drive in the car.
But no, that was good. But I'll tell you what, mate, I've been fucked for the last two days. Just sore. Just destroyed.
I spoke to mum last night. Dad went to bed at 6.30 last night. He's 70. He's nearly 70, mate.
I'm fucking 32 and that destroyed me. I was so tired the next couple of days. So have you spoken to EasyShed? I tried to call them on the day.
It wasn't easy to get through. Yeah, sure. And so you had to do the grinding. So was most of the time trying to hack it to work?
Well, yeah. I mean, we need a new screw. Like, I'm just thankful my dad has the tools and he's capable. Because you and I actually couldn't do it.
I wouldn't try. You and I, it would blow us apart. It would be boxing. Like kangaroos in the backyard by the end of it.
But I mean, at that point, do you actually contact, what do I want from them? I've got photos. I want to share. I just wanted someone to say, well done.
That's all I wanted. What's going on in the shed? All right, so we've already loaded it up. Bodie's bikes.
Like, old baby clothes. Like, our house doesn't have a heap of storage for stuff that would suit a garage. And so now we've just got, like, Christmas tree holder. You know, like, what else is in there?
Just, it will be a I see how you can fill your time very quickly. I've even noticed that my obsession with getting CNN streaming, Dr. K had mentioned Pluto TV, and then I discovered that Pluto TV was only showing these sort of highlight bits, it wasn't showing me the actual stream. And so then I've been going down this rabbit hole of YouTube TV and getting in.
And so you can VPN, so I've got like YouTube TV from the States, I'm using a VPN, but then it doesn't work even with like a smart DNS, which is what you use if you want the US Netflix on Apple TV, it won't work. And so, but Bree and I spent hours the last two days with the news on, watching all of the politics, switching between Fox News and CNN. It's so interesting. Well, I think you outlined this when you were not using social media, you ended up watching more news, because that was like, on your phone, what do you do?
You go to a news site because you want to feel connected. It's almost a similar connection to the social media stuff, and so I was looking at a bunch of news sites and I was like, this is pointless, but there is a lot happening at the moment. Like the US stuff, like Victoria specifically, wow. I mean, are you any smarter?
It's very much like that sort of, it is the social media of news, sort of like 24-hour news thing. Yeah. One thing I did a bit of a rabbit hole I went down was tunnels, tunnels of New York. And so I went down, there was, you know, just some sort of photographer video people like sneaking into the subway.
Like train station, like to the last one that they normally skip or whatever. Yeah, the abandoned, it's not, I mean, it never gets used, but it's like interesting facts of like, it's built with this curvature that like is, they would never do it again based on trains have to go so slow and it screeches through. But like the beautiful tiles that are used, it looks like a set of a film. But then, but then there's other ones like water tunnels under New York, and then there's the people that live in the train tunnel system under New York.
It's like, and you see some of the comments where here, you know, here during COVID, hope everyone's all right. It's like, some of these people have lived in these tunnels for 28 years. It's phenomenal. Yeah, the, yeah, it is very, it's very interesting to think that like there's something a bit sort of old-worldy about it.
Like you can start to imagine, like there's a great, here's a, there's a film that I'll recommend. It's called American Movie. It's on, you can buy it on YouTube. It's like $3.95 or something, but it's from the 90s.
And it's about a guy wanting to make a feature film and they follow his whole, it's in like a Wisconsin, I think. And anyway, it's so good because like all the old fashion, like just like the 90s, like every single thing that they wore would be like hot right now. It's just like the big letters, like the big sort of like the NBA fashion. It reminded me a little bit of the last dance, but American movie.
If you're a filmmaker, if you like behind the scenes stuff, it's a guy who's just like trying all he can. He spends years trying to make a film and the documentary is better than the actual film that they're making. It's pretty funny. When did it get, it was made in the 90s, was it?
Yeah, it was released. I think it was released in 1998, maybe. Yeah, American movie. But I couldn't see, like, I remember watching it years ago.
So yeah, it came out, came out in 1999. And yeah, if you're into filmmaking or 90s culture, you'll like it a lot. How was your weekend? What did you do?
Oh, Friday, first time I've ever done this, drank in the park. Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah, it was great. And it was dark.
It was like, good weather. It was like, shit weather. It was pissing down with rain. And so we, Bri and I walked there.
So we walked to that 200-meter bit where Sevs and Graze, like, overlaps. And we, yeah, we had, what was it called? Gordon's gin in a can. Oh, cans, yeah.
How was it? Yeah, it was great. It's quite sweet, aren't they? Yeah, yeah, like lemon, lemon flavor, I think.
But yeah, they were delicious. But then we ordered Uber Eats to the park, which is awesome. It's like the local chicken shop. We ordered McFlurries afterwards to the park.
It was so good. We're the only ones. So there was one other family or whatever behind us, and they ended up leaving. So it's just us.
But we also had our baseball gear. And so we were, like, a bit pissed. We ended up, like, we Ubered home. But we were a bit pissed.
And we, like, just, like, played. Like, I reckon I improved my baseball, like, thing a little bit tipsy. So that was funny. It reminded me of, it was something that I didn't do, like, I wasn't a, I didn't drink when I was a kid.
And so the drinking in the park thing feels like a real experience. Well, yeah. I think it's now that whoever hasn't done it in the past is going to have to start doing it in the future because I think it, I mean, that's looking like social occasions from here on out. What's the first, what have you worked out that you can do with the changes coming into effect?
Have you worked out anything? Oh, I can go to my parents' place, which is good, which is... My parents like 25.5, I reckon, or 26 days. Here's the thing.
My parents' place, you have to drive over 25km to get there. But, you know, it's just a straight line. If you see the radius thing. Yeah.
And so I reckon there'll be a bunch of people just typing in the address and going, ah, it's further away than it is. Like, no, you've got to look at that radius. You've got to look at that mark. And so I can get well beyond my parents' place.
That'd be nice for Bodhi. Can go, you know, can, like, party at my parents' joint. It will be interesting to see what people do with the rules because even as the guy who follows every single rule, I don't even know what the rules are now. Like, I didn't know if I was able to be at the park.
It's just like, there's a point where it's just like, okay, I'm just going to use my common sense here. I don't see anyone else. We're wearing a mask. But you see when you get a bit tipsy, the mask comes off and you get a bit dumb.
Well, I mean, you can drive to, you know, Karen from Brighton can finally go back to the tan and walk the tan. Oh, great. Because you can drive further and do exercises. There's no limit to how long you can be out now.
And then from November 1, you can be out for any reason. Is that the idea? That's, I think, the four reasons. Yeah, which would think that offices could go back, you know, COVID safe, like small teams.
I didn't even think of that. Well, because this is the thing. We're trying to work at it because the business bodies in Victoria coming out saying, there's no fucking information here. And I'm just trying to sort of break the Da Vinci Code of Dan Andrews.
I mean, one thing for sure is Dan's getting a haircut today because haircuts are back and he needs one and I do too. Yeah, my hair is a little bit crazy. I had to shave my neck beard because it was just getting a little bit out of control. But I think we can just say, I'm excited.
So one thing, if you watch CNN, if you watch all of this stuff, it gives you a bit of perspective around how bad it's getting overseas. So if you look at with, like, I think even Dan Andrews didn't even really talk about it that much, which I get because you don't, when you're wanting information about Victoria, you don't want to spend the time saying how fucked it is other places. But the thing is that you're, like in Italy update. Yeah, exactly.
But the thing is, it's like, they are in a world of pain in regards to what's about to happen in regards to lockdowns. And it's going to be way, way, way more severe. And so it's just like this, it's not ideal. I know that like people have lost their jobs.
Businesses aren't able to operate all of this stuff. But this is the best version of a bad situation. That's how I feel. And so you look at when you watch the CNN stuff and you see how many cases, like in the tens of thousands of cases every single day.
It's like, okay, well, how do you, how do you come back from that? What is that going to take? And then in the States, how crazy is this? So their air flow is important.
And so they're encouraging schools or some schools are, even in winter, as we sort of approach winter, they're in fall at the moment. In winter, actually having the windows open and giving kids like blankets because the, because apparently the virus spreads a lot when it's indoors, when you're sort of breathing the same air and all that sort of thing. But then And as Grumpsh and she said on, you can do roasted veggies and like you can do veggies and things like that. But then I asked as when people are saying, yeah, I love it, I said, what do you cook?
And you know, Camp Champ was saying, I cook chicken tenders. And so I feel like there is that risk in me just cooking up a lot of chicken tenders, too many. Just, yeah, I'd love to see. I mean, this is the thing, where the technology's gone, it's very, you know, it's very far, and they've probably refined it.
But in my mind, I was like, how can you cook a chicken tender in a fucking air fryer? Well, I wanted to get a Traeger grill, so I started following Traeger grills on, they've got like their own Australian account. Trev's got one at the moment, he's doing a review of a Traeger grill. So I'm tempted.
Like I think that I'm more leaning towards a Traeger grill than an air fryer at the moment. But it's funny with the US TV watching all of the ads, all the things, they are way better at selling shit. And when you watch the ads, they have, I nearly bought this $200 nasal douche. So it's like an electric, it's electric, because Bree has like sinus thing.
And she works, I'm like, fucking pressure, like just like in her nose or like her ears. Like she sort of feels it in her ears. And so she needs to blow her nose or whatever. And she got like a manual nasal douche.
And there's this nasal douche, I forgot the brand. Say the nasal douche one more time. Nasal douche. But you put it to your nostrils and then it like electric, like sort of like really strong water jets through your nose.
Like it does a bit of a, like through one nostril, yeah, out the other. But the ads, they're just very compelling. But they do, like with their medical stuff, they do, you know, the ad goes longer. Like there's more information on the side effects than the actual medication.
Oh yeah, they have their disclaimer. But then they can push, they can push heavier drugs through advertising with the caveat at the end, you may die. But do you think that the ads are better purely because they're an American accent and you're watching them? Like think about it, you're not going to watch Australian ads.
You'd be so pissed off if somehow you're watching TV and there's, you know, you'd be offended. Look at this fucking asshole who's trying to sell me something. But like there's something, it almost feels like you're watching a movie, seeing an American ad. It's a testament, like Australia doesn't do fake testimonials, but they do fake testimonials so well.
It's like, like the other product was like skin ticks, skin tags, tags, ticks, tags. There's like a liquid, like this guy was saying, Oh yeah, the doctor wanted to charge me 65 bucks for every, every tag. But he got this liquid like to freeze it off. But there was this liquid where you could just rub it on and they disappear.
I thought that was a cool product. And then there was another one where it was, um, a, uh, a iPhone holder, you know, in a cup. And they were talking about like the cup holder. So like in your car, so where the cup holder goes, that's where the, the phone holder is.
And they, um, and I was like, I don't need it. Like, it's a terrible spot, right? Like you're looking down, but then I was showing the other cup holder products where they give you five different cup holder sizes and you have to pick the one that fits the cup holder. Whereas this, you twirl a knob and it expands to the cup holder.
So that was another good one. Another one was a, um, a walking stick and it had like, um, four at the bottom, four little suction cups so it can stand on its own. And it was really, it was like really quick. Yeah, just feel like the octopus.
Yeah, yeah, it had that vibe. But no, I feel, um, I was tempted to buy a lot more things. And so I wonder, um, I wonder what we can learn from the U.S. when it comes to selling.
Yeah, let's set up a site, faketestimonials.com and we will get anyone to flog your product. Well, Fiverr, Fiverr already, like you can see, people already do that on Fiverr. I'll like, I'll create a testimonial. Yeah, yeah.
And they'll wear a, um, like a doctor's coat and stuff. That's extra five. Yeah, exactly. Your stethoscope is an extra five.
I love it. Love it. Um, just to clarify, Karen from Brighton, supposedly she's moved to Queensland, so she'd be walking down the, you know, down the beach. Um, George Martin says that, uh, Ronaldo plays for Juventus.
Juventus. Fuck, I was never going to get that. Um, and that's about it. Well, uh, if you like the show, share it on social media.
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If you've got something positive to say. I was listening to a podcast yesterday actually that, um, she was giving away a free meditation if you gave a five-star review and emailed her. Cute. What could, like, we should give something away for free, but let's not worry about it.
Free, will you record a meditation? No, no, we've got enough stuff coming out. All right. Uh, thanks everyone.
Enjoy your day and we'll see you tomorrow. See you, guys.