9.2 - Sukkah Daf 11 A (7 lines Dn)

Today’s learning sponsored by Sponsor a day's learning (thousands of minutes!) for only $72 click here https://www.flipcause.com/secure/cause_pdetails/ODUwOTU Rav Yehuda quoting Shmuel: One may sleep in a Killas-Chassanim canopy bed in the sukkah. It is permitted even if the canopy is more than 10 tefachim above the bed because it does not have a flat roof. Summary Challenge (see 8.5): Beraisa: “If a sheet is spread over a Kinofess-canopy-bed like a flat roof, it is possul. One may spread a sheet over his bed-posts (which would not make a flat roof) if they are less than 10 tefachim high.” (But Shmuel says that a killas chassanim may be higher than 10 tefachim since it is not flat roofed). Resolution: Bedposts create a more permanent roof. Challenge: If bed posts are permanent, even less than 10 tefachim should be possul (just as kinofess is; 8.5). Resolution: Bed posts are somewhat permanent, but not like Kinofess. A derasha by Rabbah bar Rav Huna: One may sleep in a Killah canopy-bed in the sukkah. Even if it is flat roofed and 10 tefachim high. This is in keeping with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda, “A temporary ohel cannot nullify a permanent ohel” [although we consider a sukkah evanescent and temporary, Rabbi Yehuda requires a “permanent” sukkah (6.2),, thus a killah which is a temporary arrangement cannot detract from the fact that one is inside a permanent sukkah]. This is as we learned in the mishna: Rabbi Yehuda: We would sleep under the beds in the presence of the elders (since the beds were temporary, they did not detract from the permanent sukkah overhead). Question: Why didn’t Rabbah bar Rav Huna just say “The halacha follows Rabbi Yehuda”? Response: We may have thought that sleeping under a bed is a makeshift arrangement and a killah which one sleeps in cannot be compared to it. This podcast has been graciously sponsored by JewishPodcasts.fm. There is much overhead to maintain this service so please help us continue our goal of helping Jewish lecturers become podcasters and support us with a donation: https://thechesedfund.com/jewishpodcasts/donate