9.5 - Sukkah Daf 11 B (Top line)

Today’s learning sponsored by Sponsor a day's learning (thousands of minutes!) for only $72 click here https://www.flipcause.com/secure/cause_pdetails/ODUwOTU If tzitzis are threaded and knotted while the ends are still connected. Rav says it’s kosher, Shmuel says it’s possul. Summary Challenge: “If tzitzis are placed without cutting their ends, they’re possul”. This is a challenge to Rav? Rav: They’re possul until the ends are cut. But Shmuel’s opinion is that it is possul even if the ends are cut*. This was also taught by Levi. This was also taught by Rav Masnah quoting Shmuel. Ikka D’omri (a different version): Rav Masnah: I had this question myself and I asked Shmuel. He told me that it is possul even if the ends are cut. Challenge: “If tzitzis are placed and their ends are only cut later, they’re possul”. Additionally, we learned regarding sukkah: “The Torah says ‘You should make it’ this teaches that a mitzvah can't be ‘koshered’ after it was already ‘made’. This is why if one trained vines to cover a sukkah , it is possul.” What’s the case? If the vine is still connected, it’s possul because it’s connected to the ground, not because of ‘taaseh v’lo min ha’asuy’. The vine must have already been cut off, but it’s still possul because of ‘taaseh v’lo min ha’asuy’! So it’s a refutation of Rav. Rav can say: It may have been detached in a way that is not noticeable. But if it would be cut in a noticeable manner it would be kosher. (It is ossur because of mar’is ayin). Challenge: But the first part of the quote, about tzitzis, remains a challenge to Rav?Indeed. __________ * Tosfos: The halacha follows this opinion. The principle of ‘taaseh v’lo min ha’asuy’ is also followed with regard to sukkos. This podcast has been graciously sponsored by JewishPodcasts.fm. There is much overhead to maintain this service so please help us continue our goal of helping Jewish lecturers become podcasters and support us with a donation: https://thechesedfund.com/jewishpodcasts/donate