#9: Ryan McGrory - People First, Purpose Always, and Leading with Heart

In this episode, we sit down with Ryan McGrory, founder of Exsona and a people strategist helping organisations build cultures that actually live up to their values.Ryan unpacks the truth behind company slogans like “people are our greatest asset”, and why so many workplaces still get it wrong. He shares the simple and often overlooked foundations of great company culture - "giving a shit", listening well, and leading with integrity. We explore why perks and ping pong tables mean nothing without psychological safety, how to truly support working parents, and the underrated power of just asking your team how they’re doing - and doing something about it.Ryan also opens up about burnout, the four buckets of wellbeing that guide his own life, and how co-designing your mission can bring purpose back into the workplace.This episode is a must-listen for founders, leaders and creatives alike - especially if you're rethinking how to build a business where people thrive, not just survive.Enjoy!