EPISODE · Feb 2, 2026 · 40 MIN
9 – The Rules-Based International Order
from The International Security Podcast · host Marc Trachtenberg, Jeff Friedman
Guests: Marc Trachtenberg is Professor Emeritus of Political Science at the University of California, Los Angeles.International Security Article: Marc Trachtenberg, “The Rules-Based International Order: A Historical Analysis,” International Security, Vol. 50, No. 2 (Fall 2025), pp. 7–54, https://doi.org/10.1162/ISEC.a.11.Originally released on February 2, 2026
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How did the rules-based international order come to be, and is it worth preserving? Liberal internationalists, who want to preserve that order, make claims about how the rules-based order emerged and about the role played by key institutions. Marc Trachtenberg argues that historical evidence does not support these claims. He also suggests that there are viable alternatives to the liberal international order—alternatives based on certain traditional ideas about how foreign policy should be conducted.
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