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EPISODE · Feb 25, 2026 · 29 MIN

9: When facts become ‘arrogance’: Physicians push back against political theater

from Physicians Taking Back Medicine · host Physicians Taking Back Medicine

Physicians don’t show up to legislative hearings expecting applause. In fact, most arrive knowing the vote may already be decided. They come anyway — on their own time, at their own expense, often canceling clinics or trading call shifts — because patient safety is worth two or three minutes at a microphone.What they don’t expect is to be personally attacked for telling the truth.Yet that is exactly what happened during a recent Florida legislative hearing on a bill that would allow psychiatric mental health nurse practitioners to practice independently, without oversight by a psychiatrist. After calm, evidence-based testimony from multiple physicians outlining differences in training, patient safety risks and noncompliance with existing law, the bill sponsor closed not by rebutting the data — but by attacking the physicians themselves.They were described as “arrogant,” “obnoxious” and “greedy.” The sponsor claimed doctors were profiting off nurse practitioners, earning thousands of dollars per month per clinician, joking that physicians could use the money to “buy a plane and go to The Bahamas.”It was not a debate over policy. It was political theater — and physicians were cast as villains for refusing to play along.Read more at MedicalEconomics.com.Music CreditsMedical Education by Art Media - stock.adobe.comEditor's note: Episode timestamps and transcript produced using AI tools.0:00 – Florida legislator’s closing remarks attacking physician testimony0:24 – Episode introduction: Physicians speak out against unsupervised psychiatric nurse practitioner legislation1:38 – Dr. Vicki Norton’s committee testimony on training differences and patient safety4:23 – Interview with Dr. Norton: Reaction to lawmaker’s comments7:22 – Introduction of Dr. Ankush Bansal7:57 – Dr. Bansal’s testimony on physician education, ethics, and access to care9:58 – Dr. Bansal reacts to sponsor’s personal attacks13:32 – Introduction of Dr. Mays DeBose (South Carolina advocacy effort)13:57 – Dr. DeBose on physician image, humility, and legislative communication15:11 – South Carolina “turf war” characterization15:43 – Dr. DeBose describes committee hearing experience16:02 – Dr. Phil Schaefer testifies on lack of data16:18 – Legislator comments about AI replacing radiologists16:42 – Dr. Schaefer responds to AI comment18:27 – Florida bill sponsor closing remarks (“It’s going to be cool”)19:06 – Dr. Schaefer on legislators’ understanding of medicine19:46 – Call to physician advocacy20:34 – Dr. Norton on overcoming personal attacks and getting involved22:48 – Dr. Bansal’s advice for physicians interested in advocacy23:43 – Dr. Schaefer on why physicians struggle to engage politically24:33 – Dr. DeBose on supporting organized medicine26:05 – Dr. DeBose on collective voice and combating learned helplessness28:20 – Final encouragement to join local and state medical societies29:02 – Closing remarks from host Dr. Rebecca Bernard

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