EPISODE · May 5, 2025 · 50 MIN
90 - Throw Away the Rubric: Ungrading the Music Room, featuring Chris Gleason
from Pass the Baton: Empowering Students in Music Education, a Podcast for Music Teachers · host Theresa Hoover and Kathryn Finch, Music Educators
In Episode 90, Theresa and Kathryn are joined by Chris Gleason for a thought-provoking conversation about grading. Chris challenges traditional notions of grading and assessment, offering compelling stories and practical strategies for shifting from compliance-based systems to student-centered, intrinsic learning environments. With humor, wisdom, and years of classroom experience, Chris explores what it means to foster agency, curiosity, and deep reflection in music education—and why students’ growth can’t (and shouldn’t) be reduced to a number or letter grade.Whether you're brand new to the concept of ungrading or already dipping your toes in these waters, this episode is sure to get you thinking deeply about your own classroom practices. Chris reminds us that meaningful learning comes from relationships, relevance, and reflection—not from points, charts, or checklists. Tune in for an honest, encouraging, and energizing discussion that will leave you inspired to rethink assessment and empowered to make bold changes that truly benefit your students. Connect with Chris and learn more: Website: www.chrisgleason.com Podcast: Beyond Artless Beyond the Notes Music Festival Other resources from this episode: Episode 84 - Assessment for Growth: Empowering Student MusiciansEpisode 67 - Unlock Student Potential: Transforming Assessment in Music EducationEpisode 55 - Assessment for Learning: Nurturing Growth and Progress in Every StudentTrust and Inspire, by Steven Covey Punished by Rewards, by Alfie Kohn The Art of Possibility, by Rosemond Stone ZanderHacking Assessment, by Starr Sackstein Undoing the Grade, by Jesse Stommel Connect with Pass the Baton and learn more: Pass the Baton websiteJoin the Coffee Club Support Pass the BatonAmplify student voice with Exit Tickets for Self Reflection
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In Episode 90, Theresa and Kathryn are joined by Chris Gleason for a thought-provoking conversation about grading. Chris challenges traditional notions of grading and assessment, offering compelling stories and practical strategies for shifting from compliance-based systems to student-centered, intrinsic learning environments. With humor, wisdom, and years of classroom experience, Chris explores what it means to foster agency, curiosity, and deep reflection in music education—and why students’ growth can’t (and shouldn’t) be reduced to a number or letter grade.Whether you're brand new to the concept of ungrading or already dipping your toes in these waters, this episode is sure to get you thinking deeply about your own classroom practices. Chris reminds us that meaningful learning comes from relationships, relevance, and reflection—not from points, charts, or checklists. Tune in for an honest, encouraging, and energizing discussion that will leave you inspired to rethink assessment and empowered to make bold changes that truly benefit your students. Connect with Chris and learn more: Website: www.chrisgleason.com Podcast: Beyond Artless Beyond the Notes Music Festival Other resources from this episode: Episode 84 - Assessment for Growth: Empowering Student MusiciansEpisode 67 - Unlock Student Potential: Transforming Assessment in Music EducationEpisode 55 - Assessment for Learning: Nurturing Growth and Progress in Every StudentTrust and Inspire, by Steven Covey Punished by Rewards, by Alfie Kohn The Art of Possibility, by Rosemond Stone ZanderHacking Assessment, by Starr Sackstein Undoing the Grade, by Jesse Stommel Connect with Pass the Baton and learn more: Pass the Baton websiteJoin the Coffee Club Support Pass the BatonAmplify student voice with Exit Tickets for Self Reflection
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