EPISODE · Aug 22, 2025 · 1H 10M
91. Roundtable #4: The Emotional Cost of Doing It All: Cancer, Burnout, and Boundaries
from AND/BOTH Podcast - Real Conversations, Shared Experiences, and the Community You've Been Missing
In this powerful and unfiltered roundtable episode, Ashley and Erin sit down with Heather Chauvin and Amri Kibbler, two women who have faced the unthinkable: a cancer diagnosis in the middle of motherhood, business, and everyday survival.Together, they open up about the moments they knew something was wrong, the delays in care, and how deeply ingrained patterns of people-pleasing and self-neglect played a role in their stories. But this conversation goes beyond cancer—it’s about reclaiming your intuition, setting real boundaries, and redefining what it means to take care of yourself as a woman and a mother.Inside this episode, we explore:The moment you know something is wrong but keep pushing throughWhat it means to advocate for yourself when no one else isHow emotional labor and caregiving become invisible burdensBurnout, grief, and the realities of parenting while healingLetting go of friendships and roles that no longer serve youWhy self-care isn’t a spa day—it’s a survival strategyRebuilding your life with intention after everything falls apartThis conversation is about what happens when you finally stop carrying everyone else and realize you’ve been disappearing in the process.Connect with Heather:https://heatherchauvin.com/timehttps://www.instagram.com/heatherchauvin_/Connect with Amri:https://www.instagram.com/amrikibbler/https://www.amrikibbler.com/Connect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/
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91. Roundtable #4: The Emotional Cost of Doing It All: Cancer, Burnout, and Boundaries
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