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Chris Bull is from Collect the Cars. Happy New Year. Last time we chat we were at the Cars and Coffee at Chibello and we met a now good friend of ours. He's a bit of lander and he gave us an invitation and we accepted now that that it's got time to come out to visit his orgy call at Chris.
It's still a single garage. It's one door. Thank you for having us mate. I've got a bit Chris.
I don't even know. My jaw is still a little bit of a drag. You could put a cash register at the door there and it's like a good little museum here. The amount of things in there.
I remember a couple of podcasts ago. It was being on his Japanese type collecting and memorabilia and make we. He's surrounded by some magic machines that you probably won't ever see again in your lifetime. I'm glad we start mate.
That's a good question. Without getting too boring. I think I said in the podcast I've been a car fan since I was three years old. Defining moment in my life was to go to Japan in 71 when I was 21.
That's right. When the Skyline came out a month after I arrived. The memories were always in the back of the line. I was busy until I was about 42 where I sold out of a business that I was in and that then gave me the opportunity to actually fill in the racing and rallying.
So I raced and rallied for 20 years. I was about 62. Then I said what's next? I hadn't lost the love for cars.
I moved out of the racing for machinery. I thought okay. Let's focus on Japanese cars. About five years ago.
The focus was going to be early 70s cars. I was there. Totally unintentionally. It's predominantly been an isn't today.
Not solely predominantly. I asked myself the question of how did that happen. I've come to the conclusion if you look at all the Japanese cars. This isn't actually the best motorsport history.
Right. That motorsport companion. Successful. And DNA runs through the.
Yeah. Very much from the Prince which again I mentioned in that podcast. That's where it all really started with Prince. And that's a bad thing.
So the two cars that we featured last time we had the Yellatera. What do we call the skylight? It's a GDR replica but it was the original Prince car. Well it was designed by the Prince engineers.
After Nissan's together. So the Red one here which was the Prince GTB 300 as I came to Australia. That's an Australian delivered one. There's probably maybe 50 left in the country.
That was the one they had. It's got the five-week gearbox. Very rare. Unbelievable.
I mean you've got to remember this is 1966. Wow. That's very early on in Japanese. It's got that familiar Dats and 1600.
If you remember those. That's these things. It's still a familiar show. That's a big one.
Yeah. Well you can see. I can't hold on. What why engines were in?
That's a good observation. They started life as a 1500cc with a small motor. Prince said we want to go racing. So they took the 1500 model and they had a 200mm.
They put a six-cylinder motor which was in one of their other cars. They put it into this Prince GTB and they were racing. So a very good racing history in Japan. I don't know how many but probably two or three races of Batter's.
They were a little bit late on the scene here in terms of success. There were many that were starting to dominate the Batter's on. But there's a lot of Australians who have fond memories of Prince because there's just nothing like them at that time. Wow.
Little owned. They were about, I think, over under $2,000 new. Now that doesn't sound much now. Yeah.
Things would have been about. I don't know. Late 60s? No mid 60s.
I mean you're talking about a GDO phase 3. That was 7 grand in 71. 7-hour grand. So a 3-and-a-half times cheaper than a Ferrari.
Is that how we're going to compare the freets? It was relatively accessible. Yeah, they were. So anybody who was interested in nice handling cars with a lot of unusual features.
So you'll find a lot of older guys. It's all Prince. So to the start of Japanese power cars in general? Yeah.
I'd say so. I'd say so. The Toyota 2000 GT came out not long after, maybe 60, 60, 60, but it wasn't really a race car. The greatest claim to fame for the Toyota 2000 GT was long distance enduring.
They ran around, I don't know which raceway was, but it ran 24 hours nonstop. It set a world record. But I think point of point, it wasn't that quick. So Prince certainly had a more illustrious history.
Okay. And then you've got to go from Prince to the engineers. I mean, Prince didn't want to join Nissan, but there was under instruction of the Japanese government that small manufacturers had to be taken over by a lot of manufacturers to ward off, I guess, you know, foreign princess. Right.
So Nissan was lucky because Nissan really didn't have a motorsport history at that time. Oh, okay. So they inherited all that motorsport history. And those engineers came across and they designed the hack out and you can see, I mean, you're coming about the 1600, if you look at the Prince, I mean, there's the two door, so 1600.
So we're now looking at a two door, 1600. Yeah. So that's, yeah, it was out in Australia, did it, well, it was Japan. No, well, the two doors.
First of all, it's like a drive. It was out of it. So the two doors never came to Australia. There might have been one or two.
Yeah. In fact, I know of one. In Japan, they had the two door, which was generally the 16,000, triple S. And it was a coupe.
So the back pillar is slightly greater angle and probably a little bit prettier than this. But the only other country that got two doors was America. So when I decided I wanted to get a two door, you run immediately into the problem rust if you saw something out of Japan. And this was actually the first car that I bought in this collection.
And I've done a lot of different restorations over the years. I said, I'm not going to do any restos. I just want to buy something that's finished. I can jump in and enjoy.
It might have had that. Yeah. And I don't. So what happened was I was looking on the internet.
I couldn't buy anything here. I saw this in America in Kansas. Oh, well. And I ended up buying it from a guy who just owned the rest of 24 year old.
We're still keeping contact. Wow. I don't know if you want to go to the logistics, but it was done on the quiet from the misses. As we all do, by the way.
Yeah. So the Minister of Finance did not know about the secret budget. And she doesn't know about the story on that one. And the others are probably about to tell you.
But it's kind of like story short. I saw all the pictures and other well, if it's as good as the pictures, that would be good. But I do need somebody to firstly inspect it and then do the money side. Right.
Right. So you don't want to end up in a situation where they have to go around the money. Yes, go first. Yeah.
So I rang a mate who lives in Portland on the west coast. I said, we want to prepare to pay if you fly down to Kansas. He said, look at me, I'll think about it. So he got back to me and he said, oh, he said, so happens, I've got to make who lives in that very town.
Oh, and I've had a chat with him. He'll kick him off. He'll kick him off. He'll kick him off.
So it was an O'Brien-issiguette. It was just like a picture. So I sent him the money. It was laid on to a track and money was paid and whatever it was.
Brilliant. It arrived. And it is as you see it. Had to have it touched the sense.
No. So for our non-Japanese car-loving audience, that's a missing. Give us the right issue there. Yeah.
I'm probably going to tell you the wrong thing here. And this was always the name that Nissan cars were sold by in Japan. But I think the thinking was that Nissan sounded two Japanese. So in the very early origins of Nissan, I think the cars were actually called that.
And so they came up with the idea when they wanted to attack the American market. They wouldn't call it Nissan. They call it Datsun. Right.
Datsun. Yeah. So I think that's the origins. Oh, OK.
But there was a name considerable for the Western market. So that applies to Australia. And Nissan are trying to revive it. That's as a sub-brand.
Oh, they're currently... How? Right. So they're trying to bring that sub-brand.
Yeah. They have a dollar here. So somewhere along the way, they decide I was a silly character named. And they just went this and so...
Oh, yeah. It was probably a year. Yeah. It was an overlap.
I've removed the audience. So now everything's known as this. Yeah. So...
Where we go? I can't even fathom it. What we go to chronologically, because I think the next one in the chronologically... There's the obvious one.
But let's skyline. Coop. OK. Well, chronologically.
The Prince of 66. Yep. The two-door five-tenats 71. 71.
I bought in the most left-hand drive as well. So that's 71. The skyline GT. That's 71.
Yeah. And then the one you're referring to, commonly known as Kamehari. The 240K. That was a GT.
Yes. That's a 74. And then we jump to the R32, which is a 92. So the 240K.
Is that Australian delivered? That's Australian delivered. Yeah. So if you remember, that was a mid to late 70s.
It was like a... Did they carry the skyline name like Coop in Australia? Or was it just the idea of issues? No, I think it was...
No. I think it was just an in-that's a 240K. It was a big coop. It was a squarish sort of re-end.
I don't know if that vehicle was a primary schooler. A school mum had one of those. A dark ray one. And it just used to stand out.
You don't see any agency one out in the wild for at least 20 years. It's one of those that sort of disappeared. And it was a luxurious type. Yeah.
But they were fully loaded. Those Nissan and Slash Datsons in the day in Australia in the 70s. But the big one that everyone... Is aware of is the Z car.
So is that a 240Z? That's a 70... That's a 240Z now. I started off with the view that I didn't want to restore it to buy an enjoy.
I did have a 260Z, which was an Australian car, but I was kind of able to get a 240. I was looking around and saw this advertised in the UK magazine with a Hungarian telephone number. That seems very legitimate. So I rang the number and they spoke English and I had pictures of the magazine.
I thought this looked pretty good. So I got small pictures and turned out there's a specialist's head workshop in Budapest. They only do zeds. And you need to have a look at the condition because that's better than a new car.
Wow. Better is in terms of resto or original? Well, both really because the only variations on original is it's running Weba-Gutter. It's set up, you know, it's got slightly bigger disks in the front other than that.
I don't know if it's real or not. But it's just a lovely car to drive on. So how often would you bring your parts? I'm very proud of you.
You have a large collection? What are you doing? Yeah, no, that's right. But given things like...
I mean, even pre-COVID, let me answer your question first. On average, a lot of them aren't historically chosen. You can still have any time you've been out in a year. I would say on average about four or five times per car.
Per car per year. Some are a bit more than others and it tends to go in waves. I don't know if it's a particular reason. But you tend to pick the car for the...
Whatever the case. Okay. And that's people know what. Sorry, you can do 60 times a year.
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's two times a year. So none of them do. Big mileage as a result.
Sure. I guess anybody who's got a few cars. And then what's the trick of the next? Do you want to get the old game system and what's the reason?
We're spoke on the show about the Harry's scheme. Like 60 times a year is like on average one, so a week. Yeah, 52. Which is the idea of having a survivor.
Yeah, it's brilliant. You can have them sitting here without having huge registration costs. Yeah, running costs. And then we skip the 80s.
There's not 80s in here. No. Well, there isn't. You haven't looked for a bluebird or TRX or something.
Well, it's their way to do that. Yeah, the... Nissipreery or something. Well, then the four...
The fours and the turbo. So, so the GDR. After the Camarri GDR. Now they only made 197 old.
The actual GDR because the oil shop came along and this one stopped motorsport. So they are one of the most expensive cars that you can buy. I was out of option in Japan early last year around this time actually. And it sold, if you bought it to Australia, it would have been $950,000 landed.
Wow. Yeah. For a... Well, Camarri GDR.
But the point was that after that, what could have been called the GDR? They had cars that then they did use for motorsport. Right. But they were forcing them to turbo.
Yeah. And the engineers from Prince still had a lot of say. And the GV engineers said we're not going to call it a GDR because a GDR needs to be a six-minute. So until the R32, which came out in 89.
And could base as well? No. Not necessarily because the first GDR was a four-door. Okay.
And then they brought out the two-door which I mentioned last time. So not necessarily. But it's fair to say there was... Yeah, they haven't been...
Well, there are. I mean, there is... I think it was all tech made a four-door R32. But anyway, that's a bit of an aberration.
But in principle, you're right. Pretty much after the two-door... Of course, car. Pretty much all did all that.
There are some nice early 80s. Listen, I'll show you. Here's the racing version. Right.
Yeah. Wow. And you're probably not in Jimmy Richards race. No.
So, yeah, that was the skyline before the Godzilla one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Yeah. So, yeah, there was one that came out of the two-door and car races. But it was funny because I mean, as a young star, I remember the bluebirds, the George Fury designed bluebirds. And you're right, they were...
It was the year of the turbo. Yeah. And I didn't know that the... They didn't want to use a GDR badge because that was reserved for the bigger engine car.
It's not for the new wave of the turbo. Yeah. Yeah. So, look, I like the midi...
You know, you can't get everything under. I also... A couple of other things. So there's two other ones coming.
I mean, I went down the path with the... The... The... The...
The... Right. That's a reason one. But the other two, confidentially, that...
Well, one is not so new, it's just going under restoration because all the rules broke down when I got the camera, I bought that mid-resto and took out the resto and sourced all the parts that turned into the GDR. Look, then I wanted a hacko and I sourced that and went from square one on that. Wow. And I'm doing the same thing on a Bilett GTR.
Oh, wow. Which is... That's exactly what it's... Oh, wow.
That color more. So what you might want to develop. So that's a 69. That is beautiful.
That's a classic design. Yeah. So that's getting fixed now is the space. The way that it's getting done in the Bilett GTR again was basically built for racing.
It was taken off the standard production line and the significant difference. There are about 20 differences between the GTR. The most significant difference has been the GTR. The most significant difference has been the GTR.
The most significant difference has been the GTR. The most significant difference has been the GTR. And they were reasonably successful in racing. What Japanese friends told me, there's probably only 200 left in the world.
Wow. Of 1200 ever made. So that's... It's a rare fight crowd.
Yeah. And I always like the shape. I reckon they look like the Japanese alpha. You know, the...
Yeah, it's got that... It's got that... It's got that typical square stance. Right.
Yeah. Yeah. I love it. The sweeping lines of the rear.
Yeah. And then the other one which... A lot of the other thing was too much Japanese, but nice driver's cars. I always like driver's cars.
So, you know, Lotus and... This was a must. And it's a Humber in his ex. That's on his way.
Oh, like from the 90s. Yeah, it's a 92. I don't... I had a chance to buy one of those eight years ago.
I regret not doing it. It was 40k. And I should have... I should have...
Because they're getting... I mean, to get a manual. No. People of all of us.
I mean, this is red with like roof. It's two own full service history. You know what you said earlier? How you started your collection?
Yeah, life gets in the way. That's what I had. I'm now getting into that phase where life is about to move out and grow up and get older. So...
The only answer to what I get to buy actually. So, basically what I'm getting to next is when Godzilla finally came, that's the GDR-32. You've got 30 years of racing DNA to get to that point, don't you? Yeah, precisely.
And you've got a Frenchman who's ready to come in. No, he wasn't there. He was there for the R-35. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
He's there for the R-32. They're the one who's ready to go. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the R-32 is just... That is also one of those cars where it just came along the scene and that was designed just to win races. Precisely. So, as the hacker in the tier of 150 race on the trot, the R-32 150 odd races in Japan.
And it was in the woods. And of course, everybody knows the Australian story of what happened there. And this in Japan came to Australia to see to visit George Fury. Yeah.
Because the Australian cars were quicker than the factory cars in Japan. And they came to the factory of the city to say, hey, can you come and help us to get our cars like yours? And they're within the rules. And then obviously, touring car racing changed once Godzilla turned up and they had to change the rules to...
I think they put weight in all these numbers all the way up. They're still continuing to win. And they just pulled out. Yeah, well, they changed the rules and this and this and this and this.
But yeah, they... I mean, that's a 30 year old car. NSX is a 30 year old car. They just do not drive like their old cars.
They are a joy in both cases. They're just beautiful drivers cars. Very differently. NSX is different than that.
But you can see why they were so successful back in the era because they're still relevant today. And this is P. Japan now. That late 80s and 90s model cars.
Not only like the kind of the NSX and this and the gods. They're also at Mazda with the RX-7. The roadways were at their peak. Yeah.
You had a lot of cars. Subaru wasn't on the scene anymore on the rally side of things. But Japan were coming on the map and they were being F1. And they really...
It wasn't until the Asian crisis really sort of buried them for a good decade before cars like the R35 then come out as a powerhouse. But with the R32, R33, R34 series, it was the same formula back there. Well, that's right. And people say, well, why have you got a 33 or a 34?
I like them. But to me, you know, the defining moment was the R32. Right. A car at a time.
I recognise the 33 and the 34 are their cars. But in my mind, not sufficiently different to want them. Yeah, evolution rather than revolution. Evolution.
Revolution. And so that the R35 is that next step up. Correct. And it's been in production.
So the next car, for those of us who can't see what we look at. But the next car in the collection and on the chronological timeline that we're going in order of is the R35. And if that's... You know it is?
No. No. But it was the R32? But it was the real...
And that was Pied by Wheels magazine. And then that got... Yeah. That got...
That... That... That... Yeah.
But the R35, that's still like 10 years of production and it's still going. That's right. It's rumoured that, well, basically it's coming to the model end. So I think the first one came out in 2009.
So it's already coming to the normalist 12 years. So the next one, it's going to be a hard act to find because one of the key ingredients of these cars from the 60s is high performance and reasonable prices. I mean, R35, the downside to it is that there's nowhere within the law that you can really exploit an Australia. They're not really a track bar in my view.
Now and then we do exploit it. But it does a phenomenal go and it ticks that box. It does an amazing package for the money. So, yeah, I...
It's chipping at a base model 911 and it does things that a 911 turbo could dream of. That's right. I don't know if you're a golfer, you can talk with your golf. But, yeah, I got...
You're in the boot. And they've got that classic shape. I mean, if you look at down the line, Chris, you can still see that there's like a family resemblance between all of them. Yeah.
Don't be honest. It's one of the best collections I've ever seen. Oh, it's amazing. And I mean, like we said, we learned earlier, we walked in.
This is not like recently your part of the stuff you don't mind. There's a lot of evidence. Of yourself, you were a big in Lotus back in the day when Lotus came back with a bang. Early 90s would have been.
Yeah, so the... Remember the... The Elis was around about 98, I think. You were tiny.
Well, I had a 3-5-5 for Ari. And this is before I had a... Yeah, let's see. That was about 98.
So, I did have a competition license and I started doing target test manual. I did this. I did have a target test manual over the years. And that was in the...
I was in the island in Minicoota, which was really my first cycle race car. Or I had a Porsche number which I prepped up for those time-ac events. It became Ball Run, which is another story. Is that why you got the ball in territory?
The ball in territory for the disaster up there with the... Definitely these guys in the F4. F4. Yeah.
So anyway, I did... I decided really that the end of the day, I was still learning the ropes in terms of circuit racing. And I took it for Ariato, Eastern Creek and Mamaroo and said, look, it's really a cruising car. Yeah, it is.
And so I was looking around a little bit, well, I really like to get a car. I was in the driver's track, have some fun at drive home. And the elites had been announcing the UK. I read up all about it.
That's the one. So I got the third car that ever came to Australia. Immediately wanted some more power. And surely after that, the sport 190 was announced at five, we're coming to Australia.
So that was a lot of version with race seats and sort of a half-cage and some more. Yeah. So I bought one of the five and had tremendous success. I don't know any tags or tags I serve at race.
And that's when I got serious. Initially, I had a track that completed. But then I put some slicks on a bit quicker. Well, then I need a trailer and that's when it all started.
And then I was in the UK with a good wood and a motorsport had just been reestablished. And they had a prototype of a car that called the motorsport 200. It ran up the hill with the old client. So I started talking to the guys at Lotus and they said, what's the program?
He said, well, these are going to be available sale. I said, can I buy one? And so I got the first private year motorsport 200. And in that process, I saw you have an agent in Australia and said, I'll be a separate profit division.
So we can deal with you directly. And I said, that's great. Because racing in a quick response for power system. So race that motorsport 200 in Australia won the sports car championship in 2001.
On the back of that, Lotus was the first year of their program running there. On the back of that, at the end of year one, they said, look, we've got some cars for sale. Is there any interest in the back of my car winning the championship? So suddenly I had a workshop representing Lotus motorsport, importing race cars and mechanicing on them, which sounds great, but in reality, it was a nightmare.
Mainly because UK, as we were having, as you saw, saw more horsepower than the engine. So I found that it was very difficult to race yourself and look up at the client car. So I did it for a few years. It was an interesting experience.
I think we got rid of it. Oh, Rover engines. Yeah, exactly. And when they switched to the Toyota engines, they went, Lotus went to another level, but they're there.
So it's a lovely car. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, look.
Yeah. Just the closest thing to it, and I don't really know of the third engine ones, but I say they got a lot of moves on. Yeah. But clearly I know that one is one target, Tasmania.
So the chassis, I mean, the least story is very interesting because Lotus, until the Chinese recently took them over, they were always on in these in terms of money. And they came up with a design for the chassis, which was probably known as Bonded Aluminium. The only place that they could get the extrusion was a Danish company. So after a lot of toil, I think it was a couple of years of, also, the headaches of the Danish company, they had 800 chassis, it's a long link available, but a lot of said no way of paying for them.
So they got the chassis, they built the cars, and it was only thanks to the success of the initial of these that have figured the SAVEN. Yeah. And the rest is kind of history. Yeah.
I mean, the whole chassis only weighs 110 kilo, enormously strong. In about a year, two or three, I think, from memory, they built an Alise GT3, and they put them in a spree turbo motor in the back of race motor, 600 horsepower, four lemme. The only thing was the year that it was ready, they changed the rules, and it was a lot of stillborn, but they built, I think, three race cars and three road cars, rear as NST. But the point being is that the chassis was good for six-ton horsepower.
So after whatever it is now, 15 years of development, the Toyota Notos, I think, I don't know, the top motor is probably producing 450-foot-foot. Yeah, with the superchargers here. Yeah. And the chassis, it was, you know, it sent front and rear subframes have been extended, but I think it's essentially the chassis.
So, okay, cool. Should we for race? Yeah, that's what this is. Yeah, really, really amazing.
It was good luck. That's what it's like for me today. Yeah, well, you've got three big events in the year, right? There's good ones, there's good ones in the other guns are in the Lake Como, and it's of course the US event, which is a good one.
Well, you've been in your island as well as being one. Yeah, look, you've nailed it Chris. I've been to good wood twice. I was supposed to go with you now.
That was canned, but so there's two events each year, one's a hill-clung, one's surf racing. That's right. Yeah. Both brilliant, if you had to choose.
Yeah, it's just, I went with a wife and daughter and her husband, and those three are not interesting in cars at all. Not at all, but at all. Yeah, well, you could see things like that. It's taken away from the, it's not a static car show, it's a car show that moves.
It's a event, and that's why there's a death of the car show. It's a little static in the internet so you can see photos. Yeah. We're a good wood.
The internet is a market that celebrates an anniversary, they'll showcase that mark. They're all the car makers are there. They're all the car makers. Everything that may have changed, but at the time it's all accessible so you get wondering what the car is.
You see, you know, phone its drivers, you can have chat. And then there's all these stalls. So car related, but not necessarily car related, so fashion related. Is it a part of what to ask you?
Everyone knows you see the photos of cars out the driveway and then the key cars. But is it like an event in the background? Is there like books on cars? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's memorabilia, there's books. So, you know, fashion, they have a Tesco supermarket and everything in the supermarket is period packaging. Oh, wow. They have, you know, period style workshops, you know, mechanics, web and cars.
They have areas for dancing with them. You know, a band playing like 60s live music. And you imagine all the guys and girls dressed up in safety or anything from 30s to 60s, you know, driving away. I mean, this is all happening so it's carnival.
Is there anything close to that Australian food? I think the short answer is no. Not a classic or a Melbourne is a show. It's a show.
It's not a show. I haven't been to this but one that might sort of be almost there as a little festival in New Zealand. Oh, yeah. And you see all these different slightly around cars.
They'll be brave, bring the glasses for years. Yeah, yeah, and they don't have all the rules and regulations. So this is, that's a hill climb on Tony Quinn, you know, VIP. Right.
He owns Hampton. He has a racetrack there too. So he runs this once a year and I'd love to go. Obviously I've seen, you know, video clips and so on.
I don't know. It wouldn't be the scale of wood. I mean, wood wood is just a huge thing. But I've been to people beach and I don't agree.
That's another one of the bucket list because the setting is just magnificent. Right, right there. You're on the beach. And then you've got everything happening around people beach as well.
Yeah, to come out the town is beautiful. And you've got the race weekend at Monterey. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We just do it out north of that. Four or five major basic options. Correct. And I've heard sometimes, what's the thing before it?
The option before is a very special name. Oh, Baratrix or? No, no. It's called the, you've got to continue our lives.
Someone screaming now going, please. No, no. But I've also been told that when you go to people beach, the car park is just as exciting. Yeah.
The people that the cars that they drive to the event, they're going to the cars they show go to the just out of this world. I think you've got a one or two cars here that would qualify for a people beach event. Well, that's very fine. You get the one that we first met, the skyline, the Coopas, the 71 GTR replica.
That thing will turn a lot of heads at some close up people. If it was a, you know, if it was a Japanese type, I mean, there's a lot of cars there over 100 years ago. Interesting. You say that people because I think it's probably two years ago now.
So not that long ago. So just pre COVID, I think was that complete meeting. They actually featured Japanese cars and they had, I mean, they had a wonderful collection of top quality cars. Every car, really significant.
So the years I toyed it out in GT, genuine GT, genuine GT, genuine GT. Yeah, Mazda Cosmo's. Yeah, Mazda Cosmo's. They had a whole lot there and really well received.
And, you know, maybe that was one of the catalysts who obviously fastened for years to go to the city. Fastened for years to, has driven the American market now because of the 25 year rule. They've got the 25 year rule. They're falling in love with R32s and R33s.
I think Fastened for years has helped and granted to resume the computer games, the PlayStation. They wouldn't have known what a WIX and a GDR was until a PlayStation came out. So they'd become like a cult classic in America, which only increases demand. There's no increase in supply.
Yeah. But the Z cars were always popular in the States. They were always. Yeah, it was the main market.
Or the Z cars were our American listeners. Well, interestingly, and this is becoming non unusual, but you probably know the auction cycle bring a trailer. Yes. Yeah.
They get a lot of very good Zs there. Are you registered on that? Yeah. Well, I'm not registered.
I mean, I have a bit. Oh, no. But, you've got a question. I have bid on one card.
Didn't get it, but no, I don't follow it that closely. But Australia tends to lag in terms of pricing or the recognition of where prices are and will stay. And I mean, bring a trailer. A solid Z not, I think was last year for $300,000.
Wow. And yeah, and they've had, I mean, that had an unbelievable history and so forth. But say, 141 50 US is no lot, not unusual. For a Z car.