93 We ended His political career Neil Waka Joe Hotai & our Producer discuss it all

Joe Hotai and I start off talking rugby, the Warriors and a bit of politics before getting into the announcement that my former boss George Ngatai had stepped down from New Zealand First.From there we talk about what happened at the radio station, how Shubz Says So ended up becoming podcast only, the politics behind it all, the receipts, unpaid work, media fallout and some of the things we saw behind the scenes.Neil Waka joins us and brings his perspective as someone who’s been around broadcasting for years. We talk radio, politics, Māori representation, accountability, the media industry and where things go from here.Then in the final hour our Shubz Says So producer Corina Shields joins us to tell her side of the story and speak on what happened behind the scenes.We also get into business practices, exploitation, integrity, truth in media, sport, personal accountability and plenty more along the way.A big conversation about closing one chapter and building the next one ourselves.0:00 Rugby and rivalry discussion1:47 The greatest rivalry4:02 Warriors rugby league talk6:35 Leaving Radio Waatea9:22 Explaining the show's demise11:58 Moving online and finding out14:40 Political connections and candidates17:59 Political maneuvering and receipts22:54 Political ideologies and race26:58 Critique of Maori political figures29:17 Voting perspectives and engagement32:25 Debating policy and accountability35:12 Political party critique40:20 George Ngatai's resignation50:54 Extortion and media fallout53:46 Labor and payment issues57:30 Governance and corruption concerns1:02:00 Business practices and exploitation1:08:40 Political factionalism1:18:00 Reflecting on truth and media1:24:10 Personal growth and accountability1:30:40 Neil's background and early days1:40:10 Radio industry and experiences1:45:40 Motorcycling and NZ scenery1:51:20 Management and looking after people1:58:20 Communication and fallout2:01:40 Integrity in business and media2:13:20 Moving forward and future goals2:21:40 Final thoughts and closing