976-Evil (1988)

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Hey everybody, we are back with another episode of Heart Movie Night. Last week we got a little bit of classiness on this show and talked about Sisperia, a film that often shows up on many of greatest horror movies of all time list, but that ain't how horror movie nights supposed to go. So now we're going back to the basics. We're going back to what this show was built on here for episode 551.

We're not going to phone it anymore. Oh, god damn it. Well, okay. So let's start there.

Hilariously, the title of this movie, 976 Evil, was quickly obsolete. In the late 80s, 976 was the go-to telephone exchange at the time. It was a popular premium rate phone number. And then literally by the early 90s, it was completely replaced with 1,900.

So it was like within two years of this movie coming out, this title made astronomically less sense. I know I was confused by the significance of 976 when I first started about this title in the mid to late 90s. I was like, what the hell does that mean? I didn't even know that it actually, I didn't know that it was equatable to a 1,900 or 1,800.

I just thought it was a, it just kind of rolled off the tongue well enough. I mean, this is good. Movies with hashtags in their titles will have more longevity than 976 Evil did and has, which is also painful. Yeah, that's in its own way.

Yeah, Fear.net has a alarm on my list. Fear.com has a longer life shelf than this one did. This is a real quick question before we get into the new one. It's been a good double feature shit.

Well, you can still have it. I mean, we haven't got a double feature. I got one. Did you guys ever try?

Okay, this might be the, you don't have to answer this question, but I think that it'd be funny if you did. Did you guys ever call one of those 1,900 sex phone lines as a kid and just listen to the like 22nd blurb of women like, what, this is 1,900 suck you. You know, I was able to finish before the infomercial was done. So I never had to call the number.

So my answer to that is no, but the phone, I've talked about the box before on here, I think. It was like a music, it was a music channel that you called this 900 number and you could request a music video play on your TV. Oh, yeah. I do remember this.

Sorry. That was the thing that I ran up our phone bill with. It was not a phone bill, dude. The 900 numbers, you had to have a credit card.

Yeah. So you get the messages before, but until the credit card was in, you weren't going to get asked that one. You couldn't speak to a real woman. You could only listen to...

So you just check out the menu on loop. No, no, no. I wasn't actually pleasuring myself. It was just a naughty thing to do.

But I mean, Kyle is really efficient. He didn't even need to even do this. So we don't know what my parents still love me. Yeah, I don't know either.

I don't know either. One of you was ever a listener of the reply all podcast, but there is a pretty good episode towards the very end of that show, which was like an investigative internet journalism show where there were multiple situations where people who were distributing COVID help information from like a government facility. Like if you have questions about COVID dial this 900 number and the whole thing was them trying to figure out why when you dialed the number it took you to America's hottest phone line instead of an actual desk. And it was basically just about how like this call center buys an absurd amount of numbers that all spell things and that if people don't double or triple check when they're buying a phone number, they accidentally have been buying this sex line number.

Accidentally and in the lab. Accidentally. Yeah. So 976 quick factoid here that blew my mind.

And I felt necessary to share with you guys that this was our film is the directorial debut of Robert England that I knew. It was co-written by Brian Helgland. I think is how his name is pronounced. Who you might not know that name.

I didn't recognize that name. But he got his start the same year when he wrote Nightmare on Elm Street for the Dream Master. So we already know how him and Robert Engley. Yeah.

But after this had three critically acclaimed scripts that he wrote in the 90s and 2000s that were Mystic River, a night's tale, and his Academy Award winning film, LA Confidential. Let's go. The writer who is 776 evil has an Academy Award on his desk for the LA Confidential screen. You know, and it's crazy to think about like the trajectory of someone that was that we're discussing a bad movie on the show about versus, you know, Jimmy Earl Haley who, you know, tried to write playroom.

Playroom. That's. And then after a very successful child acting career and then had to wait until he was in his 50s to get his come up and by doing Watchman, I guess. It was a it was yeah, was watching and little children back to back were kind of the big ones for him.

So, you know, this is not a great movie. I do think that no matter how bad this movie is, and it's pretty bad. There is this weird like, there's some about those late 80s horror movies that even the worst ones feel just cozy enough. When you're watching it.

It was a passion. Yeah, 100% because I even said this is my third time watching this. I mean, in my notes, I said this is my third time watching it. Definitely my last time watching it unless I'm strapped with chair in like C.Cott and being tortured.

But but this was the most enjoyable because my millennial nostalgia of watching really case in the 80s. Yeah, I'm just like, yeah, I mean, I get it. And I think that this was one of those ones where it's such a strange movie that it's almost weird. It took us over 550 episodes to get.

Well, I need to know why you picked this. Oh, literally no reason beyond like, I couldn't believe we still hadn't done it. And I was like, you know what, like, let's just rip the pande off. I think that it'll be fun.

It's 90 minutes. We'll have things to talk about. It's felt like this was going to be my last time watching it to Scott. I couldn't believe how many times before it I had watched before this viewing I had actually watched it.

I watched this three or four times. I had this DVD a long time. Like, this is definitely an early edition to my collection. Like back when I was in high school, just starting to get into horror.

And I think like, I think it's one of those things where it's like, you start to get early names, where you're like, okay, Robert England, like a show, you know, the movie. I'm going to buy this. Yeah, see, I'm going to buy. I'm absolutely going to buy this, right?

Like, and not no questions asked about like what it was. And then thinking that you have, I mean, I knew that it wasn't good, but then knowing that like, but who else is talking about nine, seven, six evil, right? Who else knows about nine, seven, six, evil, kind of that was a little bit of my thought process too. It's interesting because we did these as two back to back watches, right?

Or at least I did. I like literally watch. I watch the series as evil first, which is very funny. I watched the spirit and then I ran to get some Starbucks and then came back and watch nine, seven, six, evil.

So there's maybe like a 30 minute break between these two movies. And like they're almost the same length. And Suspiria is a little bit longer, but moved quicker for me. It felt like watching than this, which is like barely 90 minutes, but it felt like two hours.

Like I kept checking the time on that there's act. I really is the first act because like it takes, there's so much like, I don't know if it's exposition because it's not literally people telling you the story of like the people that there's no world building. There's just there's character. It's just existence, dude.

It's not even development. It's just character existence. Yeah, like I don't I couldn't give less of a shit about Spike and his poor financial decisions. And then also like, I just don't I just don't get like, why?

I understand that they're like, okay, let's have the biker guy, the bad boy be the one who first is the early adopter of 976 Evil. And then his cousin, who's a total nerd, is the one who actually gets taken over because it's supposed to be like an inversion of your expectations, right? Yeah. But it and that works fine.

I think that that would work fine in the hands of a good screenplay. But I also it's so painful. So goofy. And it's so goofy.

It doesn't need to be. I wish this was like 16 candles kind of goofy. Yeah. You know, like I don't wish that.

I think that it was written with that like goof false kind of a little bit of slapstick comedy mixed with this weird religious trauma that I just don't none of that really feeds into the whole point of this like 900 number from hell, which is like the whole point is that there is like this demon or the devil itself who is seducing people and taking over taking their souls and then possessing their bodies to do evil in the world. And so the cousin that lives with a religious which one has the more religious fanatic. It's the one who gets possessed. It is.

Okay. So that's so okay. So here there's a whole bunch happening here. And it is so it there's a lot.

So yeah. So so the circumstances that they are cousins that live together. Now the one is the same. That's the same.

That's what I that's what I was thinking. What I think is the same house. It's like an apartment outside of like like above the garage or something. Okay.

They are on the same property. It is it is so confusing and baffling. But from that I have to say that one of the other issues I think the other problem with this movie like you said the subversion of you think the bad boy is going to be possessed and it actually ends up being his dorky cousin. I think the complaint of this movie is equal to the complaint of Jack Nicholson's casting in the shining is like you literally cast a character whose most famous other movie roles have been dork that gets possessed by people like that.

It has been his calling card for over for almost a decade at this point. Like yeah. Now if this was like if that character was like a young Michael J. Fox or something like talk about a successful expectation like rug being pulled out from underneath you that like the person who's the prototypical hero of these movies is the villain of the movie.

That would be awesome. But yeah it's I also think that like this movie's 89 minutes long. It could be 80 like this the 75 80 minutes like a tight like full moon full moon pictures movie alone full moon pictures and it would be that much more enjoyable if it was even just like 10 minutes shorter like we just don't need this. I would even have a fucking movie if it was them in a shorter.

We talked about a good kabana toys and that was 66 minutes long. And this choice was that to watch. I mean it's a masterpiece. I stand by it.

There's a procession of choices that it seems like one of the members of this show likes to continually make. Yeah. What is it? What this show is?

All right. So the movie opens with a man being haunted by ringing phones when he finally answers a payphone he has blown up. And this is only cut to some tough greaser teams play in some. Oh yeah.

Yeah. They're there. We also meet hoax Arthur Wilmoth. Who names are child hoax?

Well his religious and domineering mom Lucy apparently. Is it? Does he feel like a real name? I thought it was a nickname.

Nope. According to wiki anyway his name is. Oh fuck wiki. Oh god.

It's got him both. I like confidential. That's true. I'll get Brian on the line.

So his cousin Spike also lives with them which was not originally in my notes that again was something I got from the wiki also lives with them and is one of the bad boys that we saw playing poker. Hoax idolizes Spike and despite the fact that the fact that Spike regularly is protecting him from bullies he is still full of jealousy and resentment towards everything that Spike has. One of the things that Spike has is a weird bank to deliver messages to him in the basement. I don't understand that at all.

I don't understand the layout of this house in the slightest. That's cool. That's like cool family and brothers do each other or something. Yeah.

But even that also doesn't make sense because there's a tube running through the streets. Spike finds this phone number 976R and he can get his horror scope. Oh yeah. That's right.

976 horror in the movie. Sorry. I think it's evil. I can't.

It doesn't fucking matter. But he gets a lot of people. That's to be 7. Yeah.

What's funny is that like with 900 numbers once they moved to 900 numbers you got the 907 digits. But this is only 7 digits before they went to the 900 numbers. Listen this is all baffling but he gets his horror scope read to him and shortly after it rains fish. While Spike is beyond it.

It's raining fish. It's raining fish. That was a solid that was a solid misfits cover that you just did right there. Dan's gonna start suing us.

But like Barb walked in at this specific moment and was like what the fuck is this movie and why is it raining fish and I looked at her and said with complete sincerity I wish I could answer that question. It's hilarious that this woman has lived with you for years and still asks these questions. You know you ever had a good answer for her? No.

No. Never stopped asking a long time ago. This is baffling as the fucking what's that stupid super long Paul Thomas Anderson movie that ends with it raining frogs like this is in that same Magnolia. Magnolia.

I can't want to say Magnolia. I was like vanilla sky. No. I got those two confused all the time.

I know those guys. Yeah. And they both have white things. Magnolia.

They're both Yankee candles to me. That's what it is. Spike loses his interest in the hotline pretty quickly but this is when hoax discovers it. It becomes obsessed.

Now it turns out the hotline is actually being used by Satan to corrupt mortals into his bidding and hoax takes to it like a fish to water with the promise of love and revenge. Like most people who are raised religious. What are you trying to say there sir? We call them white white nationalist Christians now.

This was this was the pre-emptive of that. It's just the beginning. Hooks becomes more and more possessed by Satan even growing claws and slashing one of his bullies in the face. I do think.

Did you write down the quote from that moment? Is it when he says like let people know that I'm not to be bullied anymore or is there like a kill line that he has? So hoax is about to get I guess beat up in the bathroom again because usually he's just getting swirly or whatever. Getting dumped in his toilet and then he like brings out his claws and the buddy of the guy who gets his face slash goes he sees the guy's face and he goes oh man he cut you man he cut you so bad he fucked your face.

And I'm like that's what the line was or let's just take the cap. It's almost like that line in a princess bride. We're like you keep saying this but I do not think you know what I mean. Yeah exactly.

Now is that before or after he kills Susie? So he kills Susie accidentally at this point or so he claims. Transurals. Yeah he was going to scare her with the tarantulas and then the tarantulas ultimately killed her.

Oh well we're also way way for getting the fact that Susie is a bad girl and she asks to go out with Spike and then Spike like basically ditches her to go gamble. He loves his poker man. He's a real rounder. So my the moment of this movie that I've always remembered is this poker scene though where Hohensh is up.

Yeah where Hohensh is the poker scene. He's got the fucking clear visor on and says do you think I can win with a pair of hearts and just holds two human hearts still beating in his hands and then he cuts off the one dude's hand and is like this is what they call a dead man's hand in this game. Like there's some really great moments in the scene. This is the scene that I always think of when I'm like we should pick this movie.

That's like the image that is if you were to see this in some sort of magazine or write up or like whatever about 9.7. It's that GHS, this is my writing in the first place. I was like I that's the one I see all the time. I want to do something else and honestly I regret it I wish I just kept that one is the best scene of the whole movie.

Hohenshah kills his mother. There is this one bit that I love in this scene where the very first time we meet Hohenshah is eating on the couch he's eating on the couch and the parrot in their home is like I don't eat on the couch don't eat on the couch. So non party couches too. Yeah the plastic is all over it wrapped and plastic but that's how the mom always knows when someone's doing something on the couch and they shouldn't be.

Of course when he kills his mom and her corpse is bleeding out on the couch the parrot just starts yelling Donnie on the couch, like it's, it's a nice, it ties it back to the beginning. It's called a perfect scripting. No one in this guy wanted Academy Award. The guy that I had to script.

Here's the thing, is he put the energy into that kind of shit and not remembering that this is supposed to be a killer phone line. Yeah, well, it's lost halfway through. And I think what's interesting is that I read somewhere that Robert England, when he was going to do, like he was like, I know I want it to direct, I want it to direct a movie. And he like actively didn't want it to be a horror movie, but then he was handed this script and he really liked it.

So at this point, I have no choice but to conclude, is the fault with the guy who wrote three scripts that have been nominated for awards, or is the fault with the actor who's never directed before taking a script and then fucking it up? I mean, that's a good point. But you possibly the most important person. This is the second script.

The editor. Oh yeah, the editor wasn't doing any favors for this movie. But yeah, so Hokes kills the mom and then later they find that many, many cats have been feasting on her corpse, probably the other kind of gnarly moment in an otherwise gnarly free movie. Spike comes home and finds that there's now a portal to hell out front of their house.

What is this? So there, I like that there are both kinds of portals. There's a hot portal and a cold portal. Yeah, there's hell froze over.

Yeah, which we want to go to. Hell or cold hell. The cousins fight, but Spike is able to reach Hokes's humanity by reminding him that they had plans at summer. They were going to go on a road trip.

They were going to get away from the sheeness of this town. And then immediately while they're bonding, Spike is like, yeah, my cousin's soul is long gone. And then he just eats this body right into the pit of hell in front. And then that's the end of the day.

Like it basically wraps up right there. We cut to like Satan looking at a binder of some of the souls that he's acquired and he adds Hokes to the files and that's a nice headshot. Yeah, I know. I mean, when Hokes took the time for a headshot, I don't know.

But he got it. High school theater is weird, dude. But yeah, I mean, it is, is this a recommend? Probably not.

But I do think that if you were a horror fan in the 90s walking through the video store, you either rented this movie once or twice or you stopped and looked at that box art because this is a perfect example of marketing doing the work that the movie should have done. This box art is eye catching the back. I think literally the back of the box is the two goryous moments for the movie with like some text. Like they knew how to sell this movie way more than they knew how to make this movie.

But yeah, I mean, I think I agree with your guy sentiment that like outside of like a themed weird ass movie night where this would like fit in somewhere. I don't know how often this is going to go back into the DVD. I also didn't like, I didn't hate it in the realm of this is to me a perfectly fine 80s background noise. Like if I'm just going to throw on some shit while I'm doing other shit that I don't need to pay attention to.

But like everyone's in while I might look at the screen and see some hearts beating in somebody's hand. Like there are far more frustrating movies to put on. This is like a perfect example of when horror was really losing its edge as the late 80s near and the early 90s were about to happen. I think it gets more dull upon repeat viewing, which is what we were kind of saying.

If you actually intently like watch it with intent, which is, you know, we kind of did, it makes it more dull. But I would yeah, absolutely. This time of background in like a category of films that you can just there's a bunch of those that you could do this with. You know what?

Here's another suggestion because these things do exist. If you have a horror themed bar where you're just playing random shit on your TVs, grab yourself a copy of this and just have it on like the rotation of movies because it is one of those movies where if there's no sound and you're just hanging out drinking with your friends and your eyes keep kind of moving up to the TV, you're going to have a few moments of like, what the fuck is this movie and what's happened? That's exactly where this movie belongs behind the bar on the TV. Yeah, that's which I mean, that's a spot.

It's something. At least it has a home. And enjoy. Please sit and stretch.

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All in the spirit of positivity and togetherness. Check us out at $2.08. Alright, so again, I did this last week, but I'm going to do it again because I have three potential double features here. So I'm going to graciously hand the baton to the two of you and see what remains when you all are done.

Kyle? I have a few as well, but what I'm going to do is the first thing I thought of, which is I actually saw a short recently that is not available. So I'm going to use that as the entry point to what I am going to recommend is a short called Heartstopper, which is directed and produced by Jackson Stewart. And it is about a phone line.

Of its time, it's about girls who call up a phone line of a teen heartthrob who would actually just die in the phone line. You know, is the line is still open and they basically like have a seance through his fan line after his death. That's great. It's fun.

Like very like, very nod to this, but Jackson directed a movie called Beyond the Gates about another dead technology. Yes. Timely dead technology of the VHS board game with Barbara Kranton and Chase Williams and I think Zen it too. And that's a really fun one.

I think that would be a good pairing with this. Nice. Well, I'm going to go with, you know, I have a couple as well, but I think the strongest contender for me is Black Roses just because it's kind of like about people getting possessed by sound. Mm hmm.

Yeah. Black Roses. That's fun. That's a really nice.

I just need another excuse. That's all. So I'm going to write. So the first instinct that I had was to write Fright Night from 1985 because we are following we're following exact same journey as Evil and in this movie while we were talking and specifically while I was looking at the background of Kyle's video, I was like trick or trick or trick or trick wouldn't be a bit option.

Dude. And that would go great with with Black Roses because I think. Oh, there's a trip. You can check the letter box, but I'm pretty sure that we've been putting trick or treat and Black Roses as double features before.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Black Roses for sure. For sure.

I think it's for the letter box. I think the official answer I want to give is Evil Speak. Yeah. That is the obvious answer.

That is the correct answer. That is the academic answer of what would you watch with it? And I honestly think that Evil Speak is clearly the better movie, but I think Evil Speak also suffers from an ungodly long first act before it builds up steam. Oh, the magazine problem.

I think when Evil Speak hits its momentum, the momentum is much more entertaining because it's like, you know, it's Clint Howard with a fucking sword just to capitating people for 15 minutes. Like that is just so much more entertaining than what they do in this movie. But yeah, I mean, that's clearly the correct answer. And guys, if you disagree with us tomorrow, we're going to be a creature feature weekend in Gettysburg.

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Not enough love hitting the Gaba Gully's design. Either the thing is a fucking masterpiece and speaking of a fucking masterpiece, I was gracious about the double features. I'm not going to be gracious about the what did I watch this week. I'll go first because I don't think it's a good one to end on, but I loved it.

One of my favorite movies I've seen in years. I finally watched The Life of Chuck, which is a film directed by Mike Flanagan based on a novella by Stephen King. And I believe Stephen King wrote the screenplay. I'm not a horror movie at all.

This is more of like a fantasy sci-fi feel good dramedy. It's hard to explain, but the basic and see without spoiling too much of what makes this movie work is the film that's told in reverse about a guy named Chuck who when he passes away, the universe ends. And we never get an answer to why that is, but as we move backwards, we see more and more about Chuck's life and all of these different events in his life. And it's told in three acts, the second act.

Even if you think that this movie is not going to be for you, which I think it's going to surprise a lot of people. I even saw a bunch of letter box reviews that said everything about this movie screamed, I'm going to hate this. And I was pleasantly surprised by how much I liked it. But the second act is like one of the most joyful 15 minute shorts I've ever seen, which is about a woman busking on the street playing drums and Chuck becomes so overwhelmed by her drumming that he just breaks out into dance and like how that like changes the mood for everybody on the street that day and they all feel a sense of happiness and joy during their miserable day.

But it's all done with live drumming. It's not like someone mimicking drums. They brought in a professional drummer to play this role. And it's just like there's just something about it that's so like 1930s movie musical in its nature, like watching like a singing ring where you're just like big smile on your face.

Like, oh, they're just like dancing their fucking asses off and I feel so happy about it. It's a delight. It's great. Go see it.

That's all I'm going to say. One of you guys go. There's a lot of that is because you would text me afterwards and it was like this is just a joy. You're going to love it.

I watched that didn't watch that. I watched Paul Schrader's first Reformed from 2017, which is, well, I am really actively trying to get through my like two watch shelf because there is my local store has had this incredible collection of used DVDs that they've gotten from somebody up in up in Northern Connecticut who and and they have all these, they have these criterians and these martial arts films and all these very specific physical media that I've not seen out in the wild before. This person had a really lovely collection of stuff, which means that I need to start doing the work and not just the collecting. So, yeah.

And I'm, I don't know, part of me was, part of me with the project that I'm writing was thinking that this could be helpful. I, it was so devastating, and it's a great movie, but it is a devastating watch. So if you like really heavy religious existential dealings and want to feel bad, you can watch first Reformed. Yeah.

And I do think it might be one of Paul's greatest best films overall. Like I do think that it might be his, I don't know if it's his masterpiece, but it is. I was saying this just in Kyle likes first or four more than taxi driver and Raging Bull. But I remember Brian made us watch that when it was available on streaming at one point.

Man. And I didn't hate it, but I definitely never want to watch it again. It was one of those movies where I'm like, you make this 90 minutes instead of two hours and I think it's a more, nothing's going to make that movie enjoyable, but I, it definitely is just hampered in its own message. So like a frustrating point.

We were just like, all right, we got it. Like keep the plot moving, buddy. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It's a lot to sit in with. Good, good, good news. East Coast winter movie.

Yeah. That is true. It is snowy. It is snowy.

And how about you, Scott? Take us home. You know, you guys are going to make me look really stupid. Because you both did like, oh, these are important films that is watching, discussing, and digest.

And I'm like, hey, guys, I watched Godzilla versus by Alante. Ooh. I think I, listen, no, I think you might know, for me, you made the right choice. I'm not thinking about that.

But I just raved about Life of Chuck, and I still would be like, yeah, I'll watch a fucking Godzilla movie, put it on right now. It's like in 1989 when that came out. And I really have a huge blind spot for most of Toho stuff. But I really love, I really love God's Elekink of Monsters.

I think that's just like such a great, it's like a comfort movie for me. Because it has the largest amount of giant monsters being the shit out of each other to people trying to fix a situation that truly is out of their hands. You know, I mean, that's my favorite of all of the current like Monsterverse movies that have come out. I really loved, you know, Congress is Godzilla, God's Elekink of the Congress is great.

I didn't really like the new ring or whatever, new, whatever. But I just love monsters. And I know that people are talking about, I think it's either the new season of, what's the TV show that's based on the Monsterverse? Yeah, I know how it helps.

People are probably screaming at their podcast apps right now. But Monarch Legacy, Monarch Legacy. The question of the new season is whether or not by Alante is going to be one of the antagonists or one of the tightness in it. And I was like, I've always wanted to watch that movie because it seems like the coolest of Godzilla's adversaries.

I'm looking at pictures of by Alante right now. And I'm like, this thing looks fucking awesome. Yeah, it's a giant killer plant. And not to say that it's a good movie because it is incredibly cheesy.

And there are a lot of subplots. Now here's the thing about the Toho stuff is that my expectation that a lot of the movie's plot, a lot of the movie plots center around a bunch of military dudes standing around the table, discussing things to make it 90 minutes long is still true. But there are also some crazy subplots to this where there's like a guy whose wife was a plant psychic who was murdered by mercenaries at the beginning and her soul resides in a rose bush that he then uses Godzilla cells to mutate, which is what becomes by Alante. So, Yo, what?

Like it is really, I mean, maybe I'm good, I may eat my words here. But I would say that of what I know of 80s era and maybe into the early 90s era Toho Godzilla stuff, this is the most housu of them because it's wild. Like the decisions are very crazy. I highly expect myself to continue on not necessarily in chronological order, but there are other ones that I definitely want to talk, want to check out and I want to like talk about on the show.

I was just saying, I want us to do more Toho stuff though. I think that like, because even looking at this, I'm reminded that like classic Godzilla has this cool like power rangers level of nostalgia, like in the rubber monsters, but man, the like 80s into the 90s Godzilla stuff just looks fucking great. Like the practicals in those looking awesome. Yeah, I mean, while Alante is very wet.

Yes. It's very, very oily looking. And so they use a lot of KY on her. Now, the cool weird shit is that there are apparently like in the, in the stuff that goes into the late 90s, I think right before, I think right before the monster verse really got ramped up.

There are like mutant humans. Now, there is also like a psychokinetic girl in Godzilla versus by Alante. So I mean, that's another subplot that she like communes with the plants and she communes with Godzilla and blah blah. I don't know how much of that feeds into the mutants that show up like these mutant humans, that show up in later installments, but I'm very interested in the wackier stuff that they were doing because it really takes it from just rubber suit monsters stomping around, you know, four foot tall buildings and people around, you know, like in a war room discussing how to fight a Godzilla Titan, era Titan level threat.

And it becomes like, oh, we have all these crazy things that we're gonna try and throw at Godzilla and Godzilla's nemeses for each one. But the thing is that the Godzilla kind of is never actively evil. Godzilla is just stomping shit because he doesn't realize, oh, people live here. So you can even head at him.

No, no, he seems more clumsy than anything. Yeah. Oh man, he falls on his ass so much in this one. It's great.

Highly recommend. I always thought that like, I always thought that like Reptar from Rugrats was truly a perfect, like a fictional representation, like an alternate representation of what Godzilla was. Cause I just always felt like Godzilla was just a big old toddler in, you know. Well, you watched Godzilla because I think that that really gets a serious version of what you're saying.

Yeah, no, I need to, I've been recommended that. Godzilla generally such a blind spot for me. And so these kinds of conversations get me excited to watch more of them. Well, let me screen some more and we'll bring some stuff on to the show.

Hell yeah. I think that that's one of our big blind spots. And I know that sometimes it's like, all right, we could get like 20 minutes out of this cause absolutely fucking nothing happened in this episode or this movie. But like everyone's a while, I feel like we're gonna find some hidden gems and it's gonna be worth it.

And it's gonna be from the late 90s, I think. I think it's my second. I think so probably. Also from the late 90s, most of the picks on the show are movie nights.

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