Inconvenient Findings and Enduring Hierarchies w/ Marie Berry and Milli Lake (E99)

This is a conversation with Marie E. Berry and Milli Lake, co-founders and principal investigators of the Women’s Rights After War Project. We primarily spoke about their article "on inconvenient findings" and their paper for Annual Reviews "women's rights after war: on gender interventions and enduring hierarchies"Topics Discussed:The limitations of many 'women's empowerment' programsWhat happens when research findings challenge the work that policy makers are invested in promoting? Example of degrowth and economicsWho gets excluded when certain interests (such as class) are maintained?Examples of Rwanda, Bosnia and LebanonNarrowly-defined arena for justiceThe three Dayton agreements (referencing the episode with Aida Hozic) and ongoing situation in Bosnia and SerbiaWar logics in 'postwar' contextsThe USA as a 'postwar' countryShould we make inconvenient findings less inconvenient?The idea of nation statesThe role of futurism and speculative movementsResources Mentioned:69/ The Entrenched “Manliness” of Ethnic Power-sharing Peace Agreements (with Aida A. Hozić) https://thefirethisti.me/2021/03/28/69-the-entrenched-manliness-of-ethnic-power-sharing-peace-agreements-with-aida-a-hozic/Recommended Books:Revolutionary Mothering: Love on the Front Lines by Alexis Pauline GumbsUndrowned: Black Feminist Lessons from Marine Mammals by Alexis Pauline GumbsThe Dawn of Everything: A New History of Humanity by David Graeber and David WengrowEmergent Strategy: Shaping Change, Changing Worlds by adrienne maree brownPleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling Good by adrienne maree brownHolding Change: The Way of Emergent Strategy Facilitation and Mediation by adrienne maree brownOn Freedom: Four Songs of Care and Constraint by Maggie NelsonBraiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge, and the Teachings of Plants by Robin Wall Kimmerer