EPISODE · Sep 12, 2026 · 2H 41M
99 REFUSE A 90 MINUTE COURSE AND LOSE YOUR CAREER?! | JANET DICKSON SPEAKS OUT
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Episode 99 and we go everywhere in this one.Robert Lee is back for his weekly spill the tea and somehow we end up getting into colonisation, cannibalism, history and a whole lot more.Karl Thomas from Conservatives NZ joins us to talk about party leader Helen Houghton, working FIFO between the South Island and Australia, life on a remote power station in the Australian outback and why he decided to get involved in politics.Karl also talks about why the Covid lockdowns, mandates and quarantine period pushed him away from ACT and towards Conservatives NZ, and what he thinks they would actually do differently if elected.Then Janet Dickson joins us to talk about the fight that has put her real estate career on the line after she refused to complete the compulsory 90 minute Te Kākano course covering Māori culture, tikanga, te reo and Te Tiriti. Janet explains why she refused, why she says parts of the course conflict with her Christian beliefs and why she says she would make the same decision again. Then South Waikato councillor Zed Latinovic joins us. We talk about growing up in Yugoslavia, escaping war, coming to New Zealand, why he wanted to stand up for ordinary people and the five Code of Conduct complaints he has faced as a councillor.Different lives, different politics, different opinions and plenty of conversations you probably won’t hear anywhere else.This is Shubz Says So Episode 99.0:00 Preparation and updates4:48 Addressing recent events10:06 Conversations and viewer Q&A26:56 Interview with Robert Lee1:00:24 Interview with Karl Thomas1:27:03 Community feedback1:37:25 Interview with Janet Dickson2:04:03 Interview with Zed Latinovic
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