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EPISODE · Oct 31, 2025 · 59 MIN

A Better AI Conversation

from The Broken Copier · host Marcus Luther, The Broken Copier, and Stephen Fitzpatrick

There is a lot of conversation happening in education around the topic of AI—but is it the right conversation? Recently Stephen Fitzpatrick wrote a piece around this, arguing that instead of two different AI conversations in education that seem to be talking past each other, what we need “is a third conversation grounded in intellectual humility.” Today’s conversation attempts to be just that. A full-time classroom teacher, Stephen brings over three decades of experience into this conversation alongside his own extensive research and experimentation with AI as a practitioner in recent years—which he has documented thoughtfully and generously with his newsletter, Teaching in the Age of AI. In this conversation, Stephen shares his own journey towards researching as much as he could about AI and its potential intersection with his work as a teacher, his experiences and learnings along the way, and his current perspective on where we are at with AI in education. To follow more of Stephen’s work or potentially connect with him: * A link to his recent post about a better conversation (quoted above): AI Whiplash: Every Breakthrough Comes With a Disaster * His post on The Important Work: Reading With a Custom GPT * His newsletter: fitzyhistory.substack.com * His email: [email protected] * His LinkedIn to connect on that platform, too Thanks, as always, to: Alberto Lugo, one of Jim’s former students, for writing and recording original intro music; Tom Csatari for allowing us to use his band’s recording of “Woodstock” from their 2020 album, Garden; and Courtney Milavec for graphic design. Find Tom’s work at uncivilizedtom.com, and on Instagram @banduncivilized. Find Alberto’s work at djsynchro.weebly.com, and on Instagram @djsynchro. Email us here with feedback or any other questions as well: [email protected]. Thanks for listening (and tell your friends)! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thebrokencopier.substack.com

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