A big sister's perspective

In this episode, we bring you an edited version of the podcast "Thanks for sharing" with Jackie Pack. The Bountiful addiction recovery therapist is the older sister of Congressman Ben McAdams, and they discuss overcoming the difficulties of their childhood, how hardships shaped him, and how politics can become something that helps people and heals communities. You can find more from Pack, including the complete episode, at healingpathsrecovery.com.  See our website for privacy information.