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A chat with Chief Jocko

Episode 12 of the Empathetic Witness podcast, hosted by Angelina Pratt, titled "A chat with Chief Jocko" was published on August 25, 2022 and runs 50 minutes.

August 25, 2022 ·50m · Empathetic Witness

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My guest today is Chief Jocko, Chief of the Algonquins of Pikwakanagan First Nation in Ontario.  Our conversation will challenge your preconceived ideas of an Indigenous Chief. When you think of an Indigenous Chief what comes to mind?  You may assume the Chief is male, although more and more women are being elected as Chiefs these days.  Next, you may think she might be legally trained. But you’d be wrong on both accounts. 

Chief Jocko breaks stereotypes. She has had many professions, from dog walker on the reserve, to Scottish funeral director! She is also a retired soldier. All her experiences have led her to hold an important position as leader of her community at a critical point in their history.


I invite you to listen to our conversation. You’re going to want to grab a cup of coffee and stay for the entire hour.


I decided to interview Chief Jocko after I investigated her unique background. What an extraordinary person!

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