EPISODE · Jul 2, 2026 · 53 MIN
A Club You Don't Want To Be In with Joan Vassos, Kathy Swarts, and Michael Allio
from The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast · host iHeartPodcasts
Bachelor Nation favorites Joan Vassos, Kathy Swarts, and Michael Allio are all members of the club no one wants to be in - they’ve all lost a spouse. The three discuss processing grief, balancing parenthood with loss, and finding love in chapter two. Plus, we hear about Michael’s new children’s book, Where The Wild Heart Grows, and its powerful message! Email us at: [email protected] or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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