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EPISODE · Oct 9, 2025 · 32 MIN

A Consequential Supreme Court Term Begins With a Conversion Therapy Case

from Deborah Lebree's podcast · host Deborah Lebree

Warning: this episode contains mentions of suicide.In one of the first cases of the Supreme Court’s new term, the justices considered whether to strike down a ban on conversion therapy, the contentious practice that aims to change a young person’s sexual orientation.Ann E. Marimow, Supreme Court correspondent for The New York Times, talks us through the case.Guest: Ann E. Marimow, who covers the Supreme Court for The New York Times from Washington.Background reading: Read the main points of the conversion therapy argument at the Supreme Court.The case considering the Colorado law will have implications for more than 20 states with similar bans.Photo: Chip Somodevilla/Getty ImagesFor more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

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