A Conversation with Donna Nicholson-Stief and Leo Sabo

In this episode you'll hear a refreshing conversation that reframes stewardship—not as a fundraising strategy, but as a core discipleship issue every pastor needs to address. - Why stewardship and generosity are two different things—and why that distinction changes everything. - How to teach your congregation about money without it feeling like an ask. - The spiritual battle behind financial decisions and the spirit of Mammon (Matthew 6:24) - Practical first steps for launching or strengthening a stewardship ministry in your church. Whether you're just starting the conversation or looking to go deeper, this episode is packed with perspective and practical guidance.