A Conversation with Dr. Nneka J. McGee, Researcher and Innovative Educator

Executive Summary In this episode of Leaders Learning from Leaders, host Steve Barkley speaks with Dr. Nneka J. McGee, a leading voice at the intersection of artificial intelligence (AI) and K–12 education. Dr. McGee shares her journey into AI, beginning with early exposure to computer science and culminating in her doctoral research on the role of AI in future-ready teaching and learning. She highlights the longstanding presence of AI in education while emphasizing the disruptive impact of today's generative technologies. The conversation explores the current tension in schools between resistance and adoption of AI, underscoring the importance of AI literacy, practical implementation strategies, and clear policy guidance. Dr. McGee introduces the “CLIP” framework: Community, Literacy, Implementation, and Policy, as a lens for thoughtful AI integration. She encourages leaders to begin with foundational questions such as “Is it necessary?” and stresses the superintendent's role in assessing community readiness, building support, and setting realistic timelines. Access and cultural relevance are central to Dr. McGee’s message. She cautions that device availability does not guarantee meaningful access, emphasizing the importance of culturally responsive AI outputs and data quality. The discussion also covers deep fakes, critical thinking, and student identity. Dr. McGee advocates for oral discourse, questioning, and media literacy as essential tools. She affirms that human connection remains a vital leadership trait that AI cannot replicate, especially when guiding schools through complexity. Dr. McGee concludes with a reminder to educational leaders that it is acceptable to pause and reflect, but not to remain idle. She calls for deliberate, research-informed engagement with AI that reflects community voice and long-term goals. Main Topics Covered McGee’s Background and Entry into AI A lifelong interest in computers led to academic research on AI in education. The Current State of AI in K–12 Education An overview of school responses to AI and the need to understand both historical and modern applications. The CLIP Framework A strategic model for AI adoption grounded in Community, Literacy, Implementation, and Policy. Asking the Right Questions Leaders should evaluate necessity, community alignment, funding, and policy support before implementation. Access and Cultural Responsiveness True access includes inclusive outputs, representative design, and strong data practices. The Role of Human Connection Leadership requires authentic relationships and emotional intelligence that AI cannot replicate. AI and Critical Thinking Tools should be used to strengthen student thinking through conversation and inquiry. AI for Young Learners Advocates for age-appropriate introduction to AI concepts, beginning with off-screen activities. Mindset for Educational Leaders Encourages caution paired with proactive adaptation to emerging technology. This episode offers a future-focused and grounded perspective on artificial intelligence in education, reminding leaders that responsible innovation begins with reflection and remains rooted in human connection. About Dr. Nneka J. McGee Dr. Nneka J. McGee is an innovative educator, researcher, and national thought leader focused on preparing students and school systems for a future shaped by automation and artificial intelligence. Her work promotes access, opportunity, and informed leadership in K–12 education through responsible use of emerging technologies. She holds a bachelor’s degree in English with honors, a master’s degree in Curriculum and Instruction, a juris doctor, and a doctorate in Education. Her doctoral research focused on educators' experiences integrating AI into classroom environments. Dr. McGee's work bridges instructional design, policy, and leadership development. She is a frequent conference speaker across the country and serves on the board of directors of HAKing Innovation, a nonprofit that expands students' access to STEM. She is also an advisory board member for the EngageAI Institute, and an EdSAFE AI Alliance Fellow recognized for her leadership in the ethical and effective use of AI in education.