A Conversation With Frank Bruni

Frank Bruni used to be a restaurant critic for the New York Times. Now, he's a Contributing  Opinion writer for the paper and a Professor of Journalism and Public Policy at Duke University. Bruni has written a book called The Age of Grievance about what's going on in Trump World and the MAGA Universe. One of his theories is that the people who are the most furious feel they're losing because someone else is winning. We talk about the erosion of democracy in our country and why so many people seem to be so ticked off. "Now What?" is produced with the help of Steve Zimmer, Lucy Little and Jackie Schwartz. Audio production is by Nick Ciavatta.