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Jan 27, 2026 43 min

“A Conversation with Gov. Josh Shapiro”

from Deadline: White House Hosted by Nicolle Wallace, Gov. Josh Shapiro, Chris Hayes, Tim Miller

Nicolle Wallace is joined by Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro to discuss ICE’s tactics on U.S. citizens as well as Gov. Shapiro’s new book, “Where We Keep the Light.” Later, Nicolle covers how ICE’s presence in Minnesota has prompted backlash from former Vice President Mike Pence and even Martha Stewart. For more, follow us on Instagram @deadlinewh To listen to this show and other MS NOW podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. For more from Nicolle, follow and download her podcast, “The Best People with Nicolle Wallace,” wherever you get your podcasts. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts.

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Nicolle Wallace is joined by Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro to discuss ICE’s tactics on U.S. citizens as well as Gov. Shapiro’s new book, “Where We Keep the Light.” Later, Nicolle covers how ICE’s presence in Minnesota has prompted backlash from former Vice President Mike Pence and even Martha Stewart.

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