A Conversation with Rae Ann Gruver and Evelyn Piazza, Part 3

EPISODE · Sep 28, 2025 · 16 MIN

A Conversation with Rae Ann Gruver and Evelyn Piazza, Part 3

from Leaders, Letters, and Legacy • The Podcast with Dr. Mari Ann Callais and Scott Fussell · host Dr. Mari Ann Callais and Scott Fussell

SummaryThe final installment of our three part conversation explores the personal stories of those affected and the advocacy efforts aimed at prevention. Rae Ann Gruver and Evelyn Piazza share their experiences as mothers who lost their sons to hazing, emphasizing the importance of community awareness and education. They discuss effective strategies for prevention, the emotional toll of sharing their stories, and their commitment to ensuring that no other family has to endure similar pain. The conversation highlights the need for ongoing dialogue about hazing and the role of personal narratives in fostering understanding and change.To connect with Evelyn or Rae Ann, please do so via the Hazing Prevention Network's website. To connect with Mari Ann, please do so via marianncallais.com.To connect with Scott or to schedule a time to speak with him, please go to scottfussellcoaching.com.TakeawaysThis is a conversation about loss, love, and legacy.Having parents of hazing victims speak is effective.We can reach people in a way that paid speakers may not.It's a labor of love for our kids.We have learned to manage our time better now.We want to be the voice for our boys.Removing financial barriers is crucial for outreach.Keep talking about hazing; it doesn't go away.We are just badass mama bears.Our boys are worth it.Chapters00:00 What Works in Prevention03:56 The Emotional Toll of Advocacy06:55 Connecting with the Community10:20 Remembering Max and Tim16:09 Show Production and Support

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