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EPISODE · Apr 10, 2025 · 53 MIN

A Different Kind of DEI

from The Esau McCaulley Podcast

DEI is all over the news right now. The Right hates it and the Left idolizes it, but what if there was a different way to approach the controversial topic? Esau McCaulley is joined by writer and cultural commentator Marie Beecham for a candid conversation about what happens when DEI and antiracism efforts go off the rails—and what it looks like to chart a better path forward. They talk about Marie's journey through progressive anti-racism, her disillusionment with parts of the movement, and how her faith shaped a more nuanced, hopeful approach.  Want to hear more from Marie? Listen to her podcast, Know Better Do Better. https://mariebeecham.com/podcast   0:00 - Theme Song   13:00 - Faith and Racial Justice   20:06 - Sponsor - Northern Seminary - Through Taste of Northern, you can experience the richness of a theological education for free, with leading New Testament scholars. Visit https://www.seminary.edu/taste to join a class today!   22:10 - Ignoring Relevancy   39:25 - DEI   46:50 - Moment of Cultural Shame   52:05 - End Credits

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