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EPISODE · Feb 10, 2026 · 41 MIN

A Hyperventilating Thought Leader?

from Untamed Leader · host Lauri Smith

Send Lauri a messageWhat happens when the person who once hyperventilated in middle school at the mere thought of speaking… becomes the woman people ask to take photos with after her talk?In this episode, Lauri sits down with Kelly Schuknecht, marketing strategist, thought leadership coach, and founder of Two Mile High Marketing, to trace the true origin of Kelly’s visibility: not a strategy, not a brand pivot—a whisper.Kelly shares the moment she watched other speakers and thought, “I could teach that.” Then the deeper thread: a fear of being looked at—rooted not in dramatic “capital-T” trauma, but in quieter conditioning that says, don’t stand out… don’t make waves.From a first talk where the tech failed to the day she walked into a room with 1,000 chairs, this conversation is for every “unicorn” leader who’s been trying to follow someone else’s formula—and wondering why it doesn’t fit.If you’re being called to teach, lead, speak, or create… this episode is a lantern.TAKEAWAYS1. The beginning of thought leadership is often a soft inner knowing: “I’m the teacher now.”2. Fear of visibility doesn’t require “big-T trauma” to be real—conditioning and “little-T” experiences can wire a deep stay-small reflex.3. Your audience often can’t see your internal storm—nerves aren’t the same as incompetence.4. Your first talk doesn’t need to be perfect; it needs to be done (also: don’t add unnecessary tech your first time).5. The moment you survive a “bigger cave” (like 250–300 people), smaller rooms stop feeling like dragons.6. Speaking isn’t just exposure—it’s a door that opens other doors (invites, summits, new visibility).7. A “unicorn niche” can actually be an advantage: fewer competitors means more fit opportunities.8. Building a team can be an act of leadership identity—choosing your way, not the “should” way.9. Authenticity beats imitation: borrowing someone else’s style instead of your essence is a visibility trap. Soul Sucker QuizTake the Soul Sucker Quiz to learn which Soul Sucker screams the loudest in your mind so you can release them from being in charge and set your voice free!https://voice-matters.com/soul-sucker-quiz/ The Speaker Alter Ego QuizTake the Speaker Alter Ego quiz to find out which protective mask hides your natural radiance so you can learn how to get present, connect deeply, and share your vision when it matters most!https://voice-matters.com/speaker-alter-ego-quiz/ Support the showThank you so much for listening!Take the free Speaker Alter Ego Quiz to find out which protective mask is hiding your wild, untamed radiance. https://voice-matters.com/speaker-alter-ego-quiz/Follow me on:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/voice_matters_llc/Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauri-smith-voice-matters/YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/@voicematters9646

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Send Lauri a message What happens when the person who once hyperventilated in middle school at the mere thought of speaking… becomes the woman people ask to take photos with after her talk? In this episode, Lauri sits down with Kelly Schuknecht, marketing strategist, thought leadership coach, and founder of Two Mile High Marketing, to trace the true origin of Kelly’s visibility: not a strategy, not a brand pivot—a whisper. Kelly shares the moment she watched other speakers and thought, “I cou...

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