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EPISODE · Mar 26, 2026 · 53 MIN

A Life in Labor: A Conversation with the Legendary William Gould IV

from Derechos y Esperanza – Rights and Hope: ASU Law Civil Rights, Migration and Workplace Law Initiative

Join Professor Lopez as he interviews legal labor law giant William Gould IV as they discuss his memoir "Those Who Travail and Are Heavy Laden: Memoir of a Labor Lawyer," a path that takes him to from New England, as the descendant of runaway slaves, to become the first Black law professor at Stanford Law School and the Chair of the National Labor Relations Board - along the way working to ensure organized labor integrated Black workers, working with the United Auto Workers, developing a lifelong friendship with Ruth Bader Ginsburg and mediating the longest strike in major league baseball history. On the way, he explains how the law impacts March Madness, the NCAA basketball tournament and his lifelong love affair with the Boston Celtics and Boston Red Sox.This podcast is for educational purposes only. The views expressed are those of the host and guests and do not reflect the views of Arizona State University or the Sandra Day O’Connor College of Law. Nothing discussed should be considered legal advice or a substitute for professional counsel. All errors are the responsibility of the speaker.

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