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Dec 6, 2023 50 min

A Lust For Lore Halloween: Kidnapping 101

from Lust For Lore Hosted by Paimon Productions

This week, in the spirit of Halloween, Olivia and Austin cover the lore of kidnappings... close to home. We deep-dive into the true story of a ginger-haired, mod girl named Brigitte (no last name) from Austin's early 20s who was mysteriously taken on New Year's Eve in San Francisco. How did this transpire? Would she come back alive? These questions and more are answered in this episode, as well as the suspenseful tale of the attempted kidnapping of Olivia. But that's not all... Also discussed are hot topics such as: Anjelica Huston in The Witches, a wig catastrophe, Promises Malibu, a man named Billay, 101 Dalmations, the retrieval of a stolen wallet and 20-somethings with no last name. Enjoy highlights from this episode by following @lustforlorepodcast on TikTok and Instagram. This podcast is hosted by ZenCast.fm

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I'm Olivia and I'm Austin and welcome back to the less for lore podcast. So you want to talk about your wake journey I feel like I have to like I think we just need to address that we're in costumes period right now I've one glove off. It's like I can't one glove off I can't operate my phone with which is so annoying like I feel like they should make technology So you can like do touch screen on the phone. Oh, they do.

I do not like satin off They need opera gloves. Yeah, we need we need like high-tech opera like I they only have it for like fucking ari-eye Piker gloves and I'm not into that. Yeah, but also I can't see and no It's not because I'm drunk but like I can see glimpses of you you can look at them as well I can see through my nose and I'm kind of into it. Okay.

Well just go video So as you can see if you're watching on video I am Cruella de Vil and Austin is one of the Dalmatians and you choose your own adventure is it lucky is it? Catch is it really or is it? country You are country definitely country you are definitely but you're also like wearing like a druid cape So it's like a spooky it's like Paimon presents 101 Dalmatians payman productions 101 Dalmatians I would walk so fab so what happened? I said you had a wig okay?

Yeah, I did want to talk about this. Okay, so we were going to be a different costume I was gonna be Angelica Houston as the grand high witch in the witches and Austin was going to be one of the little rats that one of the children that she turned into a rat We're really excited because we love that movie. It was kind of an awakening. You're a tunnel not the angelic.

Yeah, yeah Yeah, no, no, not the It was kind of a um awakening for both of us in our childhood I feel like every other person that I speak to when they saw that movie in their childhood They're like I was so scared of that I couldn't sleep for nice And you and I were like oh no that was our comfort movie So like the scene where he goes in the tree house and like that Just a pierce in the middle of the room. She's like I've got some chocolate. Oh, yeah Damn here and in her eyes turned violet I was like that's who I want to be when I grow up and I remember going out as a kid of being like that's who I'm channeling and so As an adult, I hope that's what I'm giving you know, they know the mouth open of your latex Dalmatian mask telling the story I want to be the witch that appears in the middle of the road. Oh my god No, I did too literally when I saw that and it was just like I smell a child.

I was like okay Okay, I was like okay girl me too. You're like I know who's side I would be at this like she co-tell for which is like fuck not like was he deal Also, I love like I want to know what Angelica Houston is like channeling at that time. I don't know but it was amazing It's simply a Listening he's trying to talk out of the like mouth hole of this It's warm. She's warm.

Well actually no, you can wear it is a little hot I don't think I think he's like a little like hot sitting on top. Okay, so we get like the ear the ear I'll move it around. Okay. We'll figure it out.

Yeah, okay. So does it still work? I hope so just put it on your head with it cuz I'm in the ears are down you can see it Okay, anyway We were talking about like all the girls in New York right now are wearing little crowns. Yeah, and when I say little crowns I mean like it's like it looks like a cake on your head and it's horrible looking but with these gloves These long red gloves if anyone has like any information to weigh in on this.

Yeah, what is that costume? It's not the Queen of Hearts. I'm confused as to what it is. I don't think they fucking know what it is I'm like all these girls that don't know each other are wearing itsy bitsy crowns with short black dresses and long red gloves So it must be something because why would they all could it be I don't know we know what we know what we are we know what we are We know I fucking mean I just rip my own goddamn tongue out.

I mean that was it's a lot. Okay. No, okay. So back to back Okay, so They're showing you guys.

Oh, so Angelica Houston in the witches. It's supposed to be a black blunt wig No layers straight bang straight across a long Bob Like the weatherman like and I go out fiction sheet fucking That looks like a road. Okay, so like this is what I got for those you who can't see it literally looks like you have a party And you have a pool and you invite some people over and like your friend bring someone you're like okay Yeah, like your friend Monica can come and then Monica falls in the pool and wakes up there And then there's just like a dead rat in the drain and then you realize that dead rat is Monica And that's the wig that's the wig that I was the wig I will insert a photo of Angelica Houston in the witches on our social I will also insert a photo of me taking a selfie with this on my head after rushing and styling it and it was Unsalvageable. It's truly unselfageable.

So then I was trying to look for an I couldn't return it Which was annoying and then I was looking for another one and I was looking for a rat costume for Austin And I guess everyone wants to be a rat or a mouse They sold out or they just not make no they were sold out. It was like every other animal you can like funny is like dogs Oh my god, you know why because of the rat rat it's your way or New York I was like New York rats, but knowing like the costumes I just saw going outside here like I saw Austin Powers I saw it Captain Jack Sparrow like people's imaginations are not a New York rat. Okay. I love that So we yeah, I have a feeling it's rather to it and it's a couple's costume It makes me like who's the other person the chef?

Like oh, you're gonna be the chef babe, and I'm gonna be the rat and we're gonna like bring like we're gonna bring joy to everyone I would be like ratchetually. Yeah, like the like the meal And then have a perhaps someone else with like a giant fork. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I love that too, but um, okay Yeah, so that didn't work out So we are we found this amazing mask that Austin has ripped apart. Well, it still looks it looks amazing It's still got it. I mean you still you have to wear it atop your head. Yeah, no way.

I don't talk my head It's just so god. I don't know how people do this honey. I gotta wig on. That's true This is this is she's hot.

She's hot. Well, she's hot. So we're here to tell you We're cruel and a donation and we're gonna just talk about kidnapping near kidnapping stories from our own lives to talk for Halloween So that would be sort of on brand for Halloween to talk about I guess near death experiences that we've had an escape Mm-hmm, and I'm gonna tell a story about a friend who was abducted on New Year's and then made it out for being about us Okay, why don't you go first? I'm intrigued.

I'm personally very intrigued by that story. Also, that looks amazing I don't know what it looks like, but I hope it looks fabulous. Okay terrific. So okay, so pick picture it It was probably 2007 and it was New Year's and I was living in San Francisco And I had this friend named Bridget Bridget and I'm not joking when I say this looks exactly like olive oil from Popeye But with a mod ginger haircut.

Oh my god. I can take for that. Yeah, so imagine olive from Popeye But like a mod girl with like a ball like a true like bowl cut. Yeah, it's like red red as the day.

Yeah, so She was wild we would always talk but she's sort of friend I'd like I don't even know your last name like we'd I'm like Yes, I know about your childhood trauma because we stay up at your house until like six And then like you tell me about it every single time and we talk and we know each other secrets, but I don't really know You know that I had friends like that. Yeah, it's like a friend we're like it's like a push to the show which all illustrate You're like oh, I you're like I need to do a police report and you're like, I don't know you're like Bridget She's she can sort of mod looking you know You know like no less like no no last time I know it's weird when you realize that because you don't like think about not knowing details about certain friends And then when you think about it, and you're like oh actually don't know anything about this person Don't know anything about this person, but it's like you don't realize how kind of superficial the friendship is yeah Without like with thinking that it's not super fish. You know what I'm saying right? It's really straight you're like yes We spend a lot of time together but I actually don't know anything about you I've had a few friends like that where you're like you actually feel like you've been to them and like talked to them about a lot of Things we were like oh actually like we actually don't know really I'm like I don't know what you do for work No, but it's also in this it's very like I'm in a 20s friendship We're like we've had it apart like you have great taste music and you dress well so like we're gonna be friends yeah, so this is This was also the reason I was thinking about this earlier I was like why didn't I know her last name and it's like well this was before social media This was like my space day.

It's like life journal transition You know my space like yeah, I think so it's like you didn't really know anyone's listening like you could spend a lot of time Somebody unless you like knew them knew them you're like, oh, it's just bridge it. Yeah, absolutely So that's picture it so when I was New Year's and we were like like I know this house party in the mission Uh-huh. I don't know who's from it. So it's this big house and I was like of course we want to go to some house party It's like somebody I know invited us big thing.

So cut to this house party It's like on a three-story Victorian house. It's pretty extravagant meaning like swinging from the chandelier's style But bridge it walked in and then she saw this guy I mean it was really bizarre like from across the room and she was like I don't like him And she just had a feeling yeah, she was like yeah I think it's a woman's intuition It was so strange because I was like do you know him and she was like I don't like him and then he was like what and she's like Him was she which yeah, she's a very I mean I feel like everyone like anyone was those days with us is kind of which It's kind of what you know, which is Jason and it was New Year's which acts like amped up to everything So this was like around like 1130 and this is important. So I went to the gut She was like I'm out of here and I was like On a year. Yeah, I was like like what like you really you're gonna leave this crazy party didn't like just because the You're vibe for this guy.

I'm like yeah, I understand that but it's also like I'm here Like you know obviously nothing's going to happen. It's not like we're isolated with this guy. I don't know her Yeah, we could just simply go to it. She must have been like bad a really bad vibe, but she didn't know him prior.

Yeah, and I talked I asked him I was like do you know my friend Bridget? And he was like no and I was like this is weird. Okay, were you trying with him? No, I after that happened I was like it was so abrupt where it's right now.

I was like I can't be here and just left Yeah, I was like does she not know him so I like went up to him and I was like hey Did you hear my friend? He's like no, and I was like this is so strange. Okay, it's like 11 45 So you know, I'm like, okay, Bridget like we're adults. We'll be able to serve together to have cab service Like if she doesn't want to be here like that's fine.

So I'm gonna put my mask on to tell the next Oh, oh, oh Okay, so he's back the middle nation's back. Okay, so I'm literally at a table like much like the one you're sitting at now Everybody's counting down. So it's like five four three and this woman who owns the house Taps me on the shoulder as everyone's counting down and just said I just saw your friend get abducted in a van What and I said and I was like, what I still there be New Year, and I was like wait What are you saying was the guy still there the guy was in the room? Direct and I literally turned on like wait what I don't know this woman by the way, uh-huh She's like your friend with the like orange Bob.

She was standing on a street corner in a white van drove by slowly I always like love open and they pulled her in a group and then pulled her inside. Oh my god And everyone's like no, yeah, like blah blah blah and I was like wait, wait, how old were you at this time? I was like In my early 20s so like maybe 22 21 that's crazy like not equipped I wouldn't great that I would have done this very differently now. Yeah, the French of course text develops 27 So like that's what you do.

Yeah, I think for girls is 25. Yeah. Yeah, so it's crazy Because at the time I literally like I had to take her into another room and be like wait What are you saying today? Because it was so crazy and she's like yeah, you're finished smoking.

She was standing on the corner and I said Andrew Bye, they went like very slowly open it or any poll for it. That's not so I was like, I'm sorry My ears are coming so I was like oh my god, what the flock do I do? Yeah, and I was like Okay, so luckily my other friend Billy was there and I was like what do we do like ridges? It was a delay.

No, it was not that way. Austin has a friend whose name is Billy, but he insists on it being pronounced I have a theory that like there's a certain part of the queer community and career experience where like if your name is like Mike how like Michael you'll go by like my pal or like Billy and you'll go like Bill Bailey So I know a lot of like Jason just huh, I know a lot of these people and I know some I do I do a bill A and it's one of my I think I had it almost every day now that yeah I don't even know really know Such an impact on me because he was like oh, it's bill a and I said I Know Anyone named like I love it. I respect it and I'm here for obscene it's obscene and glamorous. It's outrageous truly simply outrageous And it's very glamorous way to look at life.

It's like My shop and spree we Yeah, okay, so I pulled my bill not really I'm like do I call the cops like what do I do? Yeah, I call I just like I need to like file my super part if the missing person's rules in or laws in the states Or so fuck that you have to wait a certain amount of time. Oh, yeah, even if you see somebody get pulled into a fucking car They're like do you have your license like no, this is from the one who owns the house you saw me come in with this person Like what you literally and then they're like what's her last name? It's like oh I'm like this is where being in their 20s sex.

I was like I don't know and they're like we'll wait till the morning And see if you hear is it like also like kind of a sexy remember that I'm sexy in the city episode where it was about them dating like 20 Something guys and it was like oh my sexual episode No, it was a no wasn't the bisexual episode of the land is more so it's where she goes part It's called like land of the 20 something and it's like one's like a shift out town and then the other guy just like hangs out He's sitting it's like what is it my name Sam? Yeah, and they're like and they're like what's his last name? I don't know it's just Sam, but it's like a very like 20 something thing It's a thing where you're like my friend was abducted and because I'm a stupid kid in my 20 It's like I don't really know how to report this. Yeah, you're like oh Bridget She's maud.

Yeah, and she has a cheek haircut and they're like wait till the morning So I was like I need to do something. I can't stay at this party Like I need to figure something out. I'm gonna go to her house So I like took a cab I went to her house and I like asked you know I was literally like not doing her door all of these things she went down street for me and I just kept calling her and I heard from my office at certain point I mean she was pretty like we were we had already started the evening and by midnight, you know like yeah, you know, you know You know the draw I was literally Like what do you do? What would you do?

Okay? So you see what I said like every night here I'll like wait for a cab in the corner. What if like your door guy came up here and it's like I just saw I saw your Dalmatian friend get adopted in a cloak in that and I'm like Like what would you do? I mean I would report it obviously, but you know my last name But what if you didn't know my last name and you didn't otherwise it's like I probably wouldn't know the license number But I would like I would report it and I would ask the door man like I would call the police I mean, but I'm actually there.

I'm weird. I'm good in those situations Well, you're like you're like PI adjacent. I'm a great P.I. Also when I was younger I assisted someone we were on like a travel job like I'm gonna make bars if anyone doesn't know This is spot because we were on like a big travel job and this the company was supposed to send like a limo or like a nice car For us because I've got the airport and I just never arrived and it was one in the morning So she was like fuck it We're just going to get a normal cab and this guy was like sketchy and ended up like stealing her Like she forgot the card in the car and we were calling in calling yeah And because it was late and I think she was just very exhausted because we had come from a job in New York Yeah, packed up from working like from six in the morning on this job like you're like not a plane to like LA and then Gone there and whatever it was it was just like crazy and she was like no I don't know what to do like this is crazy and she was like trying to call the company And I literally I called the company and I'm like no this guy like literally stole her car like whatever and I'm like we will I'm like we're working with I'm not gonna be like this company And I'm like if you do not if he does not bring this back like this will be in the press I love threatening like you're like 25 to you're like your company No, I'm like this will be in the press it will be and I'm like it's not gonna be cute for you if that happens What did they do comes back right and I'm like cuz I when she realized she had like lost the car I she was like when I think like my card and I he was down the block and I was running and I was like hey Hey, and he just zoomed up like he knew he had the car because he was busy and I was Like you're like, oh, you're probably doing that No, like he knew I brought you say that detail and I was running down the block I got on like a trolley.

Sorry. I wasn't L.A. It was San Francisco I was a show and I got on like a trolley like jumped on a trolley like chasing Oh my god And then I came back and I was like whatever and then I she was like didn't she was very like depleted I couldn't deal with it and she I called and I was like I threatened that and the guy came back and he was like hey What about a reward and I was like why I was like you literally tried to steal her credit card and all of her money I was like you're not getting fucking anything and this girl like I'll get you fucking no and this woman I was working for Was literally like I need to get you to assist for me. Yeah, and I like I shut shit down So I'm like I probably would have because I'm just like I'm weird.

I'm weirdly like good Is she was dying because she thought I was almost like quiet like no and like get get her near a trolley with a credit Hert-stake no no no cuz I was on those kinds of jobs like especially like you're like you know He'd have down you just work hard. You don't like yeah, you don't make a special of yourself or whatever So I'm like what I was there so you're not getting fucking anything good and she was like oh Yeah, who's the house truly you know like I'll jump in a trolly no I got back I was like here's your card. I'm gonna take a shower. You're like literally literally though Like you go into like PI mode no I do so like I don't I don't I don't go into PI mode But I go into like what are the possible Outcomes of this situation and then all hell breaks loose so I'm literally pacing her I see a participant is going to call her and try to call everybody she knows and I'm like hey But it's new years and everyone at five friends with is a fuck up So you know that's why we're all friends meaning if it wasn't new years It would be the same situation that's three in the morning and like everyone's still up on a Tuesday So I call it I'm like bridge it was adopted and everyone's like what and I was literally pulled into a van They're like oh Bummer and I'm like okay.

You're I'm so I'm like reaching out for support and everyone's like what I'm out of heartier I was like I really hope she shows up. Oh I'm like you need me there The thing watch out with your friends with in your 20s because when push comes to shove if you get injured if you get abducted We'll see who comes there. No, no a special. I feel like especially in your 20s I mean, there's like I mean obviously friends with certain people from my friends But I feel like everybody sort of cuts the fact Yeah, well, yeah, well, we get older you get your like you're like oh, why am I friends with you?

You're like remember when bridge it was kidnapped and you didn't do anything Like this is weird and it was like you're really intense and you're like no You're really intense and you're like I'm really being this is weird and you're like and you're like I will this party is really crazy Good luck. Let me know how it goes in the morning I think a lot of people in there in your 20s that you'll be friends with and you think that they're your friends No, and they're like no, no, and they're just kind of like you just realize like wow like you don't care if I live or I die Oh, yeah, they don't get fun. Yeah, they're like those parties really fun and like that's inconvenient So like it was this call me in the morning. Let me know what happens and I'm like, okay, thanks So I'm also doing look for usually if like I know this is for child abduction They say that like if you don't get them within like four hours So this is like a 90% chance that I was like I was literally just I was freaking out and I was Nothing says my 20s more like I'm reacting to a situation that's very severe and everyone else is acting like this is not a situation And like I'm ruining their night, but anyway So all night, I'm like, I don't know what to do I guess I just need to go to sleep it was like five in the morning this time And I was like I don't know I guess I can call the cops in the morning or like, you know, missing persons unit Yeah, like and just to say hey remember me Yeah, my friend I was at a party and a woman I didn't know said the person who came with was pulled into a van And then they spat off like tires reaching and it was so what happened?

Okay, so I'm calling rich it I literally like I'm going to bed I I'm like literally leaving a message for someone who I'm like, I don't know if you're dead or I don't know what's going on But this is the only thing I can do So I wake up the next time and I like try calling her again or trying calling her again And I'm like, I don't know what is happening. I try like, you know, I've been 24 hours It's like I don't know her last name. I didn't see it So apparently she calls me later that night and she's like you So like imagine your phone going up and it's like oh my friend who's abducted and it's like if you were abducted or And I was like hey, well, she was really again. She's like olive oil from Popeye Yeah, just kind of like always out of five, you know, the people Yeah, yeah, even if it's like in a dire situation like they never go to attend Yeah, I'm like I go to a 10 like even if I hear that you heard I'm in the grocery store like looking for Chicken I go from like a zero to a 10 and like a split second.

I feel like I'm just like never below a six No, yeah, same when I was like friends. Yeah, so I was like yeah You were I think I was just a little bit like let me tell you what I know and that she's like are you okay? Are you safe? Obviously those questions first.

Yeah, she's like, yeah, I was waiting And this van pulled it and like they pulled me inside and she's like I was sitting in the back of the van These like six guys and they just kept driving around San Francisco and then they were doing drugs. They pulled her in though Yeah, she didn't want to get it. She's not like she's like let's fart it Yeah, but she was like but they think it's she is that sort of friend where I was like even if she would tell me obviously She was like this van is like men pulled up and she's like yeah, I want to party. It's new years Like no, I would do the same thing.

Yeah, like and I have done the same thing But like it wasn't that sort of situation but I put that on the table. I was like yeah, did you want to go? And she's like no they pulled her like they did like she was like I was pretty fucked up and it was so they were just doing drugs in it Yeah, she's like they were doing drugs and then they tried to give me some probably to You know like I feel like they probably didn't know what they were doing based on what it sounded like if you're driving around And you like pull a girl from the street into a van and it's like six men and you literally are like driving and yeah, it shows like amateur hours. Thank god.

Thank god. You're fucking useless So she was like they were doing drugs and they gave me some and I literally just called your drugs shitty And they threw me out of the van under a bridge in Bryan Street They said we just go with the summa. Well, thank god they did but I was like while the van was sassy and you're like fuck you Your drugs suck and then they were like Isn't that crazy? That's like I just want to understand what that was and then I walked home I think this is what that she even said that it was is that she looked a little fucked up She was standing on a corner and maybe swaying and like smoking and they were like oh, this is like an easy target Unfortunately, you know, that's probably the incentive and that like she was like but they didn't like assault her No, but she said that they tried they were trying to like touch her And like she was like combative and then she like insulted that and like they eventually like they I don't think they were I think it's the unfortunate reality where it's like a misjudgment of character where you're like Oh, this person seems intoxicated and so like they're not going to put up any resistance Yeah, but then when you realize that you'd not want to be fucked with but it's also like if they really wanted to it's six guys against a girl Right and then I said you're really lucky So I don't I the only thing I can think of and that we talked about is like they were really fucked up Like it just seems yeah, but I'm like you're so lucky because six guys and she's like yeah Then I just walked home and I was like from where from under a bridge somewhere in the summa And I was like you didn't go to the police you didn't and she's like again always out of touch I'm tired like the one I was like what so I mean that just sounds like insane.

She's really lucky She's so fucking like she has a garden as it's like how you it's like when you hear about like a body being found under a bridge It's like this and it's literally and I wish I needed the woman who owned the house I was not to be like hey remember when you saw my friend go back then. Thanks for that. That's that girl Thanks. She's okay now.

That's insane. She insulted some men and like got thrown out of that. That's crazy Yeah, I think it's honestly that they were probably really fucked up too because otherwise it doesn't matter if she fought back Like you can't fight which is as hard as a woman to fight off Are you kidding like that's not really that possible and it's also just like be cautious It's also if you're out of our cautious this Halloween because this is Halloween if you're at a bar and a guy is buying you nine drinks And doesn't have one himself That is that is the red flag or the biggest red flag. We were at a bar.

It would be a very nice And this guy This guy okay, it's like two in the morning. This guy is at the bar. It's there. No, that's what I said Yeah, yeah, but I'm like what story no back.

It was this guy who was super He just looked Generate I couldn't pick him out of the lineup. Uh, and he was reading a book at the bar in the dark Oh with a hundred dollar bill bookmark. And what do you think that book was? Oh, don't worry.

Um, I didn't ask him But I forced one of my fans to ask him And then when I know it was Scar tissue by Anthony ketas Was out of art to him by himself reading scar tissue Anthony ketas Uh biography with a hundred dollar bill bookmark and I've never been more terrified in my life I literally like went up to him though. I had a few I think we were like he was weird and we were like oh my god He's giving Brian cobra. It's very Brian cower. We were like, which we still need to talk about but it's like it's it's an episode It's an episode in itself.

I kind of want to like see I want to see what happens with the trial Before we have cameras in the trial, which is going to be interesting But I think they're only allowing like certain things to be televised Interested there's some loophole. I have to read about it anyway A lot of more We were like I think this is like when this happened was like right? After I know I think it was like that it was like yeah It was like a month after the Idaho murders had happened and everybody's so brown cobra and then she asked that and we got that information And I think I went up to him and I was like Anthony ketas Assault women or something like insane like something really crazy and like you're saying this is probably isn't a salter because he has a hundred I don't know. I was really trying him like I was poking the bear But at the same time it was like we also have to paint a picture of what this bar was This was not a bar that was like oh like a Tuesday night of quiet Like candle it plays where you're it was pitch black dark There was a DJ it's the kind of like bar where it's a club basically Lights are from the bar that they sell and it's like you have to push people to get even get to the bar because there's so many people there And it's so loud like you're not reading a book at this place and with a hundred-dollar bill bookmark as it's like that doesn't scream pussyhound Oh danger Oh, so I didn't like I was talking to this one the other day and she I've been speaking more like I'm from like a no-arm movie in the 40s And I don't know why like a trans is like your dish and I'm like oh I don't like it.

You're a digital idiot. Oh, yeah, it's very West of us. It's very very West. It's very old like you're a real dish and I love it That's the way I want to be yeah, so that's the story bridge it.

I can't find her now. Oh, you can't I've been looking for You remember so my friend ray is how I met her. I love Ray. Yeah, raise the best unlike belay I actually do know right yeah and raise the best but I'm on the pond.

Oh my for sure I was like you know What we're bridges and she's like now I'm a group from her and I was like Also one more thing before about bridge that I this but like a few weekends before we were at her Ray in Hunter's Point which is like the industrial area in San Francisco and She walked out and this is like where I was like did you know who's in the van not to speculate? She says it obviously now, but she's six guys for carrying her and they work six But I'm saying like a bunch of guys are carrying her like like she was being carried like like clear patch Yeah, and I was like that is the she goes like imagine being a party big I'm ready to leave now and then a bunch of guys just pick you up and carry you to a car the parking lot honestly I've left this story with more questions than answers. Yeah, same here to be honest But you want to know what life is it's that yeah It's where you relieve a situation you're like I have a lot of emotions and I have no resolution And I'm more unsettled than I was prior to the story Speaking of I have a I have a kidnapping story of my own child in a German Speaking of so you were kidnapped Well, I would have been kid I would have been kidnapped if it weren't for me and my Pi skills, I know you you have you have a charm to you that gets you out of tough situations where you jump on a trolley I don't get kidnapped absolutely. Okay, so basically when I okay So when I went to like school for like when I was little until like all the way through high school I went to all girls like private school like uniform School for girls.

Yeah, the school for girls. But that's very like me. It's very you. It's like also ballet school for girls It's just very yeah adjacent which is weird because I'm like not really like you're not like that But it's your baby.

It's very much be being there and being like I hate it. I hate it. I want to promise his Malibu So Olivia told me that you give the kid like how old are you? I think like 12 or like 12 or like Dean like she knew like Lindsey alone and Paris and all these girls like you It was really like that era that like Paris Lindsey Brittany like girl like Pantylas pop shot.

Yeah. Yeah shot She turned to her mom from my birthday. I'm gonna promise this Malibu a rehab facility in Malibu That's what I want because I feel like at that time I was like oh this is like glam or I'm like if we can't make that happen to like the Priory and England Yeah, cuz that's where it's like that's a good second. No, I was like I just thought which is like fucked up to glamorize addiction I mean but also like don't like me blame the press in the early 2000s What do you know in the early 2000s?

What do you know that it came with three? I'm like my favorite quote I think I have it cut out somebody's like they're like what did you learn and rehab? She's like a lot about alcohol. That's all she said.

I know like I'm literally no I I said ask wanted to go I was always like I was very much like I'm torture So what Olivia told me that I was like mm-hmm, but I feel like you and every single gay adjacent to you was like okay So absolutely that's like so long on you as a person so camp. It's so funny to be like mom I don't want anything for my birthday except to go to a rehab center in Malibu and you're like no I know I did ask wanted to go here 12. It wasn't even a joke. I was like this is maybe a possibility in my mind I'm like this could happen.

Um this is actually like a word I felt is a 12-year-old wants to go to promissant now They so shows up to promise of Malibu and then pretends to have an addiction to like fit in and just does Lizzie alone cost I'm just like seeing too many Sophia Coppola movies at that point probably like TMC literally me a promises Malibu Obviously doctor. We've never been 13 year old girl, and they're like why are you who brought you here? Also, okay, wait, yeah, so you were almost kidding. I was always okay, so me and one of my friends We were walking home from so I was like a how old so you were how old like Like 13 okay, I was like 13.

Yeah, I think it was 12. It promises meld. I was like 13 But I was in eighth grade. I think like a year past promises.

Yeah, but I'm not the wiser. Yeah But maybe actually I did save our lives So basically our you know from was really cute was a short little like race car and then like white blouse with like a sailor collar No, it was just like with a sailor collar with like red stripes shut up. I'm like I'm not even listening to Toronto They know like they know what school this is because the acryms is a cute outfit. Yeah Yeah, it's like you stood you like like grainy socks and then just like black lace up I mean that's so cute like shoes.

Yeah, I do your hair anyway. You want yeah, whatever. Yeah, you have hair agency You could do whatever I mean, I think they would have gotten mad if you were like oh, I'm gonna die my hair like purple They're like that's not that's not that's not the only have certain like nail colors. You could have them Like certain ones what about black?

No, you know, you could because it was just like the school code You couldn't wear like makeup that looked like makeup You could only wear like really like I had to look very like everything had to be like neutral if you were gonna do a nail color It could be like it was like sc ballad slippers or something like interesting really like like pink I want to know like when I hear about dress codes I want to know like the faggot behind Establishing a dress code where you're like no, it's not like or the older But like it's definitely not a gay man Because if it was you know that you should make me do go into the principal's office and you like kneel on the floor And if the skirt doesn't touch the floor then it's like against like a That is okay. Never mind. I said my ass cheek. Oh, I don't know They're like miss Olivia your skirt just keeps getting sure.

No, there's like a fun and I'm like I'm sorry all turn. Okay, you want sit or like Neil. I know it's so it's very it's very It's like whoever's in charge needs to be investigated. It's very like like like a magical softens like go on your knees He's like we're gonna measure that skirt that is porno.

I know it's also me too Generation like story and they would like we had a lot of complaints at length of your skirt I'm like you're like sorry there jealous. I'm gonna promise this Malibu tomorrow I'm out of here. No literally so that's probably what happened before we left school to walk home me and one of my friends I'm you're walking and we were walking like it was like in a nice neighborhood of Toronto It's not like a neighborhood where you expect like crime or anything crazy to happen So basically we're walking home It's like a 15 20 minute walk to my thing and we're at school to know from school Yeah, it was actually like 3 30 3 45 like around like that time maybe four o'clock and We're walking and we're walking to like a very very like busy street like to cross the road and get to another neighborhood To kind of like go into my thing But this is not a street where it's like oh, it's like a secluded little side street where there's one car where they're no Like this was wild this guy did this on the street because there would have been like a million witnesses Basically no insane so basically we're walking and we're in the uniforms, right? And we're when I was younger I was like not one of those girls that looked like oh, I'm like 13 or 14 But I look like I was probably like 10 like I look so 10 promises my little like so skinny and like young looking like it was no That's probably why and she was and she was like very like skinny as well You know what I mean?

So it's like I feel like that is the type if you're a P If you're a P file, um, so we're walking and this white again a white van Why do you think that is it so just non-descript that it just looks like it could be a plumber? I mean, I feel like it looks like it's a pedovant to me So I'm the only thing I think when I see a window with friend is like watch your kids Yeah, like literally so we're walking and it's funny because it's like the friend that I was with is very She was very sort of like not to me because I was friends with her but to like other people like intimidating at school and like not afraid Do you know what I mean to say anything? Okay, so she's like she's like that bitch, right? And so when we're walking um this guy stops He's like hey, do you want to get in my van?

I'm like, oh, no, oh, not even a promise of candy, but just like do you want to get in a van? Like no, like you want you want to get in my van? I'm like, no, okay He's like you guys look like you could use a ride or whatever He's like slowing down on this busy street where he's at the side where we're walking but cars are like zooming by You know what I mean? Like a fast street and we were like um We're good like we're okay Whatever and we keep we keep walking and we're just like that's weird And then we think we've lost him and then he slows down and asks again And we're like what's going on and I'm sort of thinking of my head We need to stay on this street because if we walk down the street that we need to go to It's quieter.

Yeah, and there won't be anyone right you need witnesses And she wasn't think she just went like really like frozen and silent which was like the fight or flight Yeah, yeah, but fine flight for you No, I mean and that's like fair enough like that's a real thing But it was just interesting because she was so like I would think she I mean we're both I guess pretty like Mouncy at that age and stuff, but I don't I thought she would be as much as me and she wasn't in that situation Like I was like are you gonna do something and she like wasn't you know what I mean? So we're walking and he keeps slowing down so I don't ask me and then he swings the door open of the van and he goes Get in the fucking van and don't say a fucking word and I was like Why don't you go? And I like put up Okay, I thought I thought I thought like the middle finger I was like why don't you go fuck yourself And I like did this weird motion like that and I'm like fuck off and he was like your clothes zoomed off He was just kind of like you think she's really spicy. I'm not even gonna know because they say that like predators especially child predators They'll go for like the more like quiet It's just one that has like oh like they have like maybe like a troubled home and they're like they're more like insecure They're like vulnerable.

Yeah. Yeah more that kind of thing and I think he was kind of I mean obviously He didn't know us like from a home loss or he like like to the look but then he was like oh the attitude He's like I'm good attitudes giving I've been to promises now with the three times and like I'm not fucking around Absolutely not and he did not zoom off fast enough so the moral of stories Both of these stories is be a fucking pun and like absolutely danger be a kind and like you'll it'll do you a big Fucking thing no, I mean it was like he could not have gone fast enough And then I remember she was like laughing so hard in the next day at school She's like telling everyone the story and everyone was dying you become like the hero like everyone asked you to score time from school I was like little I was like tiny like super super good. I think about like you're like oh Like for that predator vision. It's like oh these school girls walking in busy street And you're like this should be you know like look at them and then you're like wow It's like not at all with you and I know he wasn't he I don't know what if I can deal with this I'm like you probably soiling yourself No, he did not know what to do But yeah, I think it was it was that I don't think they want to deal with someone I think that I mean I think that's honestly a good lesson that if you have children like just tell them to be a fucking bitch Yeah, because that's what you should like you'll be bad because I feel like a lot of children I'm like oh I can't be like me into an adult like you're a cat if I'm a band Yeah, you're like a bit of an event who's like trying to abduct children like the fuck yourself He zoomed off so quickly and it was just done.

It was done. It was nipped in the bed years later I got a trolley and I got a credit card back and that's just who I've been I've been that bitch You've been like Dave. You've been like Dave. You've been a dude seriously.

I've saved many women Yes, you're a fucking secret girl, and that's the Lord of us being connect but are not me not me I was a kid not but you're ginger my friend my ginger not friend who I hope is okay right now But this is the lesson is the Halloween season Please not get abducted and if you are just be cut yeah, don't be afraid to be a bitch because I never have been And of that Halloween

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