EPISODE · Jun 30, 2025 · 1H 20M
A Meal of Thorns 27 – 40,000 IN GEHENNA with Arkady Martine (and a 4th Street Fantasy Report)
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Cherryh’s influence on speculative fiction is vast but, some would say, under-acknowledged. Author Arkady Martine joins to help rectify that situation, with a discussion of 40,000 in Gehenna, an anthropological, generational science fiction story about realpolitik, language, cloning, giant intelligent lizards, and gender—and that’s kind of just the top notes. Casella also provides a mini-report on Minneapolis’s 4th Street Fantasy Convention. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books. Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon! Credits: Guest: Arkady Martine Title: 40,000 in Gehenna by C.J. Cherryh Host: Jake Casella Brookins Music by Giselle Gabrielle Garcia Artwork by Rob Patterson Opening poem by Bhartṛhari, translated by John Brough Transcribers: Kate Dollarhyde and John WM Thompson   References: Vote in the Ignytes! Our episode with Archita Mittra A Memory Called Empire, A Desolation Called Peace, Rose/House, "Three Faces of a Beheading" Mick Herron’s Slow Horses Pip Adams' Audition André Alexis’s Other Worlds Thomas Ha’s Uncertain Sons Stephen Sondheim's Assassins Cherryh’s Cyteen, Downbelow Station, Foreigner Watsonian vs. Doylist readings The Faded Sun, Hunter of Worlds Leonard Cohen's "The Future" Theodore Sturgeon's "The Golden Helix" Internet Science Fiction Database (ISFDB) Ursula Le Guin's The Left Hand of Darkness, Rocannon's World Joanna Russ's The Female Man Anne McCaffrey's Dragonriders of Pern Serpent's Reach Amal El-Mohtar Anaïs Mitchell’s Hadestown Emmanuel Levinas & Martin Buber Octavia E. Butler "Third Person Intense Internal" Jane Alison's Meander, Spiral, Explode Elizabeth Bear Ann Leckie, Tamsyn Muir, Jeff VanderMeer Ancillary Justice Lois McMaster Bujold Seth Dickinson's The Traitor Baru Cormorant & our episode on it Max Gladstone's Craft Sequence A Pattern Language David Brin, Vernor Vinge Arkady's Bluesky Louis Kahn 4th Street Fantasy Viable Paradise Wiscon Wesley Andrews The Briar SK Coffee Bogart's Doughnut Northeast Tea House DreamHaven Uncle Hugo’s Delany's The Jewel-Hinged Jaw and The Motion of Light in Water Cherryh's Wave Without A Shore Greg Egan's Phoresis Kathy Mar's "Forty Thousand in Gehenna" from the album "Finity's End and other Songs of the Station Trade" Wizards vs. Lesbians episode with Ann Leckie on C.J. Cherryh's Foreigner
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