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EPISODE · Oct 24, 2025 · 42 MIN

“A painful, unnecessary experience”

from Deadline: White House · host Mitch Landrieu, Alicia Menendez, Reverend Al Sharpton, Joyce Vance, Lisa Rubin, Susanne Craig

October 24th, 2025, 4pm: Today in court, New York Attorney General Letitia James pleaded not guilty to charges of mortgage fraud in a case that Donald Trump pushed to proceed despite pushback. Alicia Menendez — in for Nicolle Wallace — is joined by a panel of political and legal experts to discuss her message of defiance and determination in the face of Trump’s weaponization of the Justice Department. Plus the alarming signs that Americans will soon feel the full brunt of Trump’s tariffs and Joyce Vance shares why she still has faith in our institutions in the second Trump presidency.For more, follow us on Instagram @deadlinewhTo listen to this show and other MSNBC podcasts without ads, sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. For more from Nicolle, follow and download her podcast, “The Best People with Nicolle Wallace,” wherever you get your podcasts.To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Alicia Menendez — in for Nicolle Wallace — on the latest in the Letitia James case, the collapse of Trump's tariff negotiations, and how to maintain democracy in uncertain times.

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