A Paradigm Change in Biology episode artwork

EPISODE · Jun 21, 2025 · 38 MIN

A Paradigm Change in Biology

from Pain Points with Max Shen · host Tanner Holman

essays.debugyourpain.com## Timestamps00:00:00 Introduction - The Coming Paradigm Change in Biology  00:02:00 The Biomedical Paradigm: Materialism, Reductionism, and Dualism  00:05:00 How Pain Is Usually Explained (And Why It's Wrong)  00:07:00 Problems with Materialism, Reductionism, Dualism00:12:00 Pain Without Damage, Damage Without Pain  00:15:00 The Alternative: Biological Computation and Collective Intelligence. 00:26:00 Health as Problem-Solving Ability, Not Statistical Norms  00:30:00 Pain as a Control Signal and Skill  00:32:00 The Somatic Scientists - Ida Rolf, Moshe Feldenkrais, FM Alexander  00:37:00 Why RCTs Don't Work for Complex Therapies  00:42:00 Bridging Science and Practice ## Key Figures Mentioned- **Michael Levin** (Tufts) - Biological computation and collective intelligence- **Karl Friston** (University College London) - Active inference and free energy principle- **Dennis Noble** (Oxford) - Biological relativity and heart pacemaker cells- **Ida Rolf** - Developed Rolfing, emphasized fascia connections- **Moshe Feldenkrais** - Physicist turned movement therapist- **FM Alexander** - Alexander Technique founderResources- Ashar, Yoni K., et al. "Effect of pain reprocessing therapy vs placebo and usual care for patients with chronic back pain: a randomized clinical trial." JAMA psychiatry 79.1 (2022): 13-23.- Noble, Denis. "A theory of biological relativity: no privileged level of causation." Interface focus 2.1 (2012): 55-64.- Wampold, Bruce E., and Zac E. Imel. The great psychotherapy debate: The evidence for what makes psychotherapy work. Routledge, 2015.- Beyond Biomechanics: The Enactive Inference Approach to Health and Movement: https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/uqcs4_v1About the HostMax is a former machine learning researcher who pivoted to studying pain and cognition after experiencing chronic pain during graduate school. He now uses computational tools to study chronic pain at MIT.---- Substack: debugyourpain.substack.com**Get in touch:**- Email: [email protected] Twitter: @mxslk- Substack: debugyourpain.substack.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit essays.debugyourpain.com

Episode metadata supplied by the publisher feed · Published Jun 21, 2025

Embed this episode

NOW PLAYING

A Paradigm Change in Biology

0:00 38:19

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

No similar episodes found.

No similar podcasts found.

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of Pain Points with Max Shen?

This episode is 38 minutes long.

When was this Pain Points with Max Shen episode published?

This episode was published on June 21, 2025.

Can I download this Pain Points with Max Shen episode?

Yes. Use the download control on the episode player to save the publisher-provided media file.
URL copied to clipboard!