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EPISODE · May 29, 2026 · 55 MIN

A Realistic Health Approach in an Optimization-Obsessed World - with Kate Lyman & Michael Ulloa

from Bodies Outside The Box · host Lizzie Fischer - Body Image Coach

The Perspective Shift on Health & Fitness That We All NeedThis week I’m joined by Kate Lyman and Michael Ulloa from the How to Fitness podcast for a conversation about wellness culture, sustainable health habits, and what happens when “being healthy” starts becoming less about authentic health — and more about optimization and chasing wellness trends.We talk about:how rigid ideas about health can actually keep people stuck and lead to disordered eating patternsthe pressure to do fitness and nutrition “optimally” and why it's BSthe importance of flexibility within a sustainable approach to healthwhy evidence-based health matters immesly in a world full of food-fear, weird trends, and constant wellness marketingthe impact of obsessing over “health” and what people miss out on when their lives become consumed by self-monitoringhow orthorexia, wellness culture, and disordered eating patterns can quietly reinforce perfectionism, fear, and controlhow to become a more conscious consumer of health and wellness content — and the red flags to watch forwhich habits actually support a healthy and fulfilling life (and which ones are mostly noise)why so many people feel emotionally attached to control around food and exerciseThis conversation felt like such an important reminder that health is supposed to support your life — not become your entire life.This is about more flexibility, self-awareness, nuance, joy, and actually finding what works for your real life.Health can be fun!!Follow Kate:@KLNutritionFollow Michael:@MichaelUlloaPTListen to the How to Fitness podcast:@howtofitnesspodApply for group coaching here !! Only 5 spots left for Summer session, starting June 22nd. Feel free to DM me your questions @lizziefischer.coachingxoxo-Lizzie

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