A RHONJ Reunion Primer (with The Real Housewives of New Jersey)

Hi, I'm Megan Cigara. And I'm Eric J. Mac. And this is the Daily Dish, Bravo's official podcast.

So the real housewives of New Jersey reunion is upon us and after an incredible season, we're giving you some homework to make sure you're prepared for next week's reunion. So we got every housewife and even a few of the husbands to comment on the season in Bravo's exclusive Real Housewives New Jersey after-show. And if you want to watch any of the after-show, we're going to put a link in the description. So we have Theresa, Melissa, Dolores Margaret, Jackie Jennifer, and Danielle Stob, plus Joe Gorgofrink, Katanya, and of course Margaret's husband, Joe.

And we've went ahead and boiled it down to the most essential moments you need to listen to before the reunion premieres. So thank Danielle and Margaret, Jackie and Theresa, everything that went down in Bimini, spoiled children, Melissa and Theresa, the whole thing. So first up, you're going to hear the cast discuss one of the biggest questions coming out of the season, which is, will things change for Theresa and her family when Joe comes home from prison? So sit back, relax, and try not to get pushed into the pool.

I asked my sister a question. I said, listen, what's going to happen when Joe comes home? You're in a different person. I see you definitely different and you like to go out a little bit more and you're not the same Theresa.

I said to me, she goes, no. When my husband comes home, I'm going to be with him and I'm going to go out with him. I think that obviously a lot has changed. They've had a lot of time separated at this point from when Theresa wasn't home and they were only home together for a couple months and then he wasn't home.

So it's a lot of time as a married couple to do things apart and independently. So there was decisions now where Theresa doesn't look to anyone for an answer and she kind of just makes a decision on her own. So I think when she realizes her partner that comes back in and he's going to want to be like, all right, listen, I'm the man and yada yada yada yada like he's used to. I don't know that she's going to be like, okay, and just bow down.

I think that it's going to be an adjustment. You know, three years makes a big difference in children's lives. They are very independent now and they find their way. Gia has her own license and Theresa does not have to be home as much as she did at one time for the most part and her father also lives there too, which is a big help.

So she, you know, she's put her time in. The kids are a little older. Joe coming home is not coming home to the same Theresa he left. Just saying.

Maybe it's a good thing for him, right? I have no idea. I won't deal with that when it happens. I mean, I don't know for a fact.

Nobody really knows for a fact right now, but I feel like, you know, I'm sure people do a lot of thinking. I can't, when you're in jail, how would you not change? When I went to see Joe, he's more mellow. Bridget's way humble in your mouth.

He's humble. He's way different. And I think he's going to be a different guy. Yes, he's going to respect life in a different way.

He's definitely changed also. He's been around the same group of people that he was around for so long that had the same ways and the same things. And you know, it's his college. When people go away to college, they get out of the people they've grown up around and they've been raised around.

So. Oh, she's sticking out for Jackie. And it's like, oh, yeah, bitch. And then I went at her because you should stick with your family.

No, it's some stranger that you just met five minutes ago. She needed to wake up, Paul. You just watched the movie, Godfather, but you never go against the family. You just don't do that.

I should have. I should have. I should have. You're still right.

I thought everybody watched that movie. I love that movie. And I guess my brother didn't like us arguing. And he saw it.

He just yelled at both of us. He said, get over here. We need to talk. And I'm like, all right, let's do this.

You should have said this a long time ago. I think everyone needed to stand together at the same moment. Everyone needed to like blow for a second. And I think that's what happened.

We all hit our little boiling point at the same time. Do you think that Teresa genuinely loves Melissa? I think she loves her. It's kind of like a competition thing, I think.

They're too much alike. There's going to be arguments between personalities. Who's top dog? That's right.

Do you all think that Jennifer does spoil her kids? I think that one spoils the kids. I don't think Jennifer anymore. I think she proudly spoils.

Yeah, she proudly spoils. I think I spoil my kids. I don't think my kids are spoiled. Does that make sense?

There's a difference between spoiled and spoiled brats. So they're spoiled in the way that I give them love and attention. But they're not spoiled to the point where they feel entitled or better than anybody else or bratty. Yes.

Although I was a little surprised by the scene in Oklahoma where her daughter demands a bar of dream house. What? My princess? How'd it go to me?

Oh no, stop. I'm going to buy you the biggest surprise toy. Hello, dream house. If my kid demanded a present in exchange for me going on a little trip, I mean, there's no, out of principle, I wouldn't buy that present.

I actually thought those tears were, I thought it was kind of funny because I think the tears were fake because as she said, get me the bar of dream house. Okay, bye mom. Okay, you got it. Bye.

Bye, love you. You know, I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that kid's on something.

I can't say Joey hasn't done that to me a couple of times. She is a very good mother. She is very bad at it. She is obsessed with her kids and every parent wants to get their kids things.

And Livia told me last night, she gives you a fundraiser and the five-year-old came up to me and she said, this isn't about gifts. This is about giving back to people that have less. Her mother taught her well and that's what she was going to do. And she was so behaved and so good and greeted everybody.

Is there a good thing that she's single to you? Yeah, I know. You know what? It's like people get the right impression of me.

I'm like, get that the **** the last one and the back island. No, it's not. I don't think that Jackie knows or understands quite the dynamics of everything. The Loris is actually an offense with her for a couple of days.

Yeah, like over 20 years. And she's just been friends with Melissa for a minute. So if you're from an Italian upbringing, you know that you just don't get involved unless it's your place. An Italian woman, we have this rite of passage.

We can get involved as long as we know each other. But an outsider that's just coming to the scene, she should have just taken a seat and watched in a fold. I mean, listen, Jackie's a grown woman. She can say whatever she wants.

I can't control Jackie. Sometimes Theresa puts her foot in her mouth. She needs somebody to tell her what's real in life. I didn't insult Theresa's character and I didn't go after her as a person at all because I actually think she's a great person.

And I went in that day and was like, who can I play with? It just happened to me that I felt that she was speaking offensively against somebody that I cared about and I didn't agree with what she was saying. But it certainly wasn't attacking somebody's core. Jackie is not the type of girl that walks in a room and says like, oh, I'm going to worry about like, what's the right way to do this or that?

I think that she just speaks her mind and she's real. And that's why I appreciated her so much. She like looked at the situation where you were Princess Diana, Theresa Jew, Dijs, Melissa Gorga, or Margaret Joseph. She's going to tell you how she feels.

And I respected that. I like that. I don't like people that are intimidated by what they're supposed to do or, oh, I know I'm not supposed to speak up to this one because she's going to attack me. Jackie just doesn't give a s***.

She's like, no, I'm going to say what I think is right. I agree. Jackie stands by her convictions. She has a great personality, but she's not going to hold it against you.

She could say what she feels and then she can move on from it. When it's time for you to chime in, we'll ask you the questions. She doesn't need to have her opinion. I don't think yet.

She doesn't know you. Oh, I know. So she doesn't have a right to have an opinion as far as I'm concerned. Unless someone else is in her ear.

Margaret should really, they should both be taken to see. But is that like so? The only thing Melissa really has going for her really is you. As far as I'm concerned.

I'm not getting involved in that, but I can. I have a right to my opinion, but she should really be sitting with the two of them. Because I'm back. I don't know if you're hard.

You know, I tried to say really quiet about that, but I was a little insulted. I would think she would want us to look good. We're in her bridal party. She asked me for a great hairdresser and I gave her my personal one.

When I'm in Bimini and my hairdresser's there, I would expect that I'm going to blow up. I show up with the white head. Like, I don't blow out my own hair. I have naturally curly Italian hair.

I don't blow the s*** out. It was just an irrational fun. Maybe she's having a bridezilla moment. Yes, that pissed me off because I was a kid.

She scared me so much I blew my own hair. You want your bridal party to feel amazing. But obviously she felt we were taking away from her. That's crazy.

There was plenty of time we weren't taking anything away from her. We wanted to make sure she was all good before. She didn't want us to take away from her, but we wanted to make her ready. Sometimes she just looked at s***ing crazy about her.

That's why I said something. And then I had to walk away and then Melissa dealt with her. I guess I was her. There was a few times I kept my mouth shut because it was her wedding.

And I didn't want to go there. Margaret, not so much. She opened up. She opened up.

She opened up. She turned up in her mind. It was a lot to deal with. And I was fighting with everybody.

You guys came in all sunkissed and pretty. And I'm losing my mind. I couldn't find my food. I couldn't find my veil.

I couldn't find anything. So I took it out on you guys. I'm sorry. It wasn't you guys as well.

You didn't know you were just having fun. The funniest was after we tried to calm her down, she wanted a picture with everyone in the robes. And so we all stood up to take this robe picture. We were all like, yay.

She was like, she just could not be in the moment. Instead of enjoying it and all your girls are there and we're all happy and laughing. I guess she, she's like, nothing's about me. I'm like, everything's about you.

It was before we were going to the community. And basically it was about, she said, you know, that I had said things about our community. That, you know, I shouldn't trust them. And Marcus exact words were, you can't trust anyone.

That means Melissa. That means Teresa. That means everybody that's working on you and those were exact words. So when you said, you know, don't trust anyone.

Did you even mention anything at all? No. I just said, she goes, I don't even know who to trust. I don't trust anyone.

You talk too much. Because she was, you know, she's abused everything. You know, whatever is in her house. She says crazy things constantly.

And I was, I was being dead serious. I think she was really done with me anyway. She had been used me to the point where she could use me anymore and she moved on and latched herself on to Melissa. So she didn't need me anymore to be part of the group.

And I think that she wanted to manipulate me to only be next to her. So she would have full control over me. She is a bit of a control freak. I mean, nobody, she's on her husband for four and a half years and doesn't have control issues.

And then she went on, I'm so happy, you know, that I married Marv. You told me not to marry him. I did say that. And that's what I said in those text messages.

You know, that's what I said to her. And I said, yeah, I did say that because you told me chronically that you were unhappy. You changed your mind every day. And I said, if you're not truly happy, don't marry him.

And then I just heard something sorry. Enjoy your bed for one. Why you twist what I said and put it into Theresa. I think that was a little turning point of my relationship with Danielle.

I knew in the back of my head that I wanted to put them both in front of each other and really, like, hash it out because no one would be able to lie. And when Danielle pretty blatantly admits, like, oh yeah, well, she really didn't say that, but I said that she did. I mean, I was like, uh oh, like, that's going down a road that I don't want anything to do with. Because I think she'd prefer if Theresa and I didn't like Margaret because her and Margaret were having issues.

Yeah, I remember exactly what I said to Danielle. I said, don't trust anybody. I said, if you had real friends, it would be a bridal party. Not the three of us.

I said, you should have had your lifelong friends in the bridal party. Well, you guys think that I believe Danielle? What you're saying? I believe that she exaggerates the things that we say.

Do you think that someone twists things around? Oh, does she twist things around? I don't know. I mean, I feel like she twists things around.

No, I feel like she says something. There's a reason why she's saying it. She might exaggerate a little bit. So, whatever.

I just know what to expect from her. Like, if she told me somebody was saying something about me, I think about 50 times over before I even would say it's a lot of personal thought. Oh, I feel like I'm trying to say, oh, yeah. No, I should be kidding.

It was not overnight. It was gradual. It might look overnight to Theresa. She's always out about she doesn't see that.

If that's Danielle getting in her head, Danielle's saying, I don't know why she told me. Danielle knows why I don't want to be associated with her. Let's have a good time over here. That's okay.

I can have a good time with Danielle. I can keep the peace with anybody. I was being super cordial. I knew it probably couldn't totally last.

I could have held it together the entire trip if I had to it, but she's unpredictable. I think Danielle is indicative. I don't know her as well as the rest of the crowd. But I think that she latches on to somebody and she tries to make them hers.

And then when she's mad at you, she'll try to destroy you and bring you down. Yeah, like if she if she could switch Teresa and I both to kind of see her side more than see Marta She she that was definitely a goal. What's reaction to Margaret saying to me? I'll turn Teresa against I feel like she turned me against her because you know I feel like when you're friends with someone You don't backstab him and I feel like that's what she was doing to Danielle And I just thought Danielle being there for her when she needed her and then I feel like when Danielle needed her She wasn't there for her.

I'm not into that. I like I like a loyal people And I feel like she wasn't being wanted to Danielle. I do feel like people need to be careful around Margaret I don't think she's anything that she pretends to be I mean I really I know for a fact She's not what she pretends to be I love Teresa But she's a very poor church character so as long as you're nice to Teresa. She wants to be with you But Teresa's not the one calling you every day.

You have to call Teresa every day. You have to check in on Teresa So Danielle is the type of girl who will call you every morning. She puts you know Danielle doesn't work She's everything else going on so Danielle's thing is every morning. She's gonna text you she's gonna you know Make sure you check this long text messages.

So she will be up to Reese's ass nonstop So of course to be so you know Teresa feels bad she thinks I just dumped Danielle But I don't really give a Drunk Jennifer, you know is missing a filter a little bit. That's old news I own my stuff with my soulmate Joe and I meant to be together my ex-husband's over it. It's till all this time I was meant to be with Joe I admitted it I think it happens in a lot of marriages She's just vocal enough and open enough to admit like listen I did it and there's probably a line of women that could line up around her So the fact that she admits it and talks about it and says this is what my story is I think is brave of her She's owning it. She's not saying like you know that it was right or wrong.

It's her story It's my story. I think it was a little overboard But I don't think it was overboard because she started with the mail order bride. I'm gonna ride it a little You know it's not common to do it. It was just like then she takes a patch on my mother That just wasn't nice.

Did she have you know about it though? She apologize on the bus they think no She said it was a joke on the bus. She was like oh don't take it seriously was a joke But I remember this is the thing Marge was talking about her mother and she was telling about how the last love that her mother had was a Relationship that was 15 some years ago Where the man was married and he never left his wife So that bothered me that bothered me that she said that and that initiated me to say to Teresa like see a pattern here And when I said that I I didn't mean to get a reaction from her the way that I did But when she said what do you mean about that? It's like you know what you're telling me that your last your mother's last love was someone who was married and he was with your mother for 15 years And you want me to feel bad that that man never left his wife How about that wife who probably stayed with her husband all that time knowing that he was probably cheating and stayed for whatever reason that she had Either for her kids or her livelihood and I feel that children always learn by example If you grow up in a household that it's okay to be with married people and it's okay to cheat Then you grow up thinking the respect or sanctity of marriage is not there anymore So that's really what initiated that whole conversation she said about her mother I was like wow, okay, so you patterned her and her mind and she said what am I talking about?

That's when I said like I can't relate to people who have them affairs with other married people Now, I'm not naive to say that people don't cheat do whatever you want behind closed doors, but to the grave Okay, you don't want to put it on page six. You don't put it on blast Don't put it on blast. Well, we're on house. Why does that what you do?

You put this on blast. All right. Hello. See I've been I've been in the rest of the world a long time.

She's coming out of that old school culture I've been divorced 20 years. I would have probably went nuts on her being like that's not okay. I would have done sick I would have said everything she said, but I also realized that the rest of the world is not like the way I was raised I used to be like you. I used to be like so wrong Unless you'll be with me.

We're not Margaret's mother. We don't know what the circumstances were Why she was here? Margaret's mother was in love with that man. Right.

What he was saying and that's why she said I'm not judging People always have their reason. I'm not as full as **** totally. 100% You'll notice in that clip, I'm not sure if you notice I was trying to get drawn because I knew what this was gonna bring I had six shots of tequila. I know I was lining up with that.

The digs were getting deeper and deeper at that point I was just hoping somebody blew up the restaurant. Maybe Danielle is just bitter from like Margaret She feels like Margaret dropped her like hat so she's angry and maybe bitter towards that. I'm gonna come at you now You piss me off and I'm gonna bring up things that are gonna hurt your feelings because you brought me I mean like it's not like Danielle's like oh she dropped like I mean Margaret was up her ass and like you know Danielle was really bare for her like the year before so yeah you took up betrayal feelings. Right.

That relationship ended as quick as it started. You know you can't expect a lot from a relationship that there's not a lot of history from. What do you guys think is first? Bringing up that someone's kids don't talk to them or throwing a glass of wine in that situation What was that?

Bringing up that someone's kids don't talk to them. What she said to me was so below the belt. She's lucky that's only I didn't Otherwise the pointer. It's not that she brought up the mic it's not talk to me.

She was saying this is her for what? What does that have to do with her? That was not in the context of the argument that has nothing to do with why we don't get along That's the only thing she could say to me. What does that have to do with our relationship?

You know we all have a golden rule here. You don't go after somebody's kids. And that's hurtful. You know it's already you already know when you're going to something.

She hit her in a very on a very visceral level because she knows what that means to Margaret. Danielle knew what she was doing. She was pushing and pushing until she she hit that button. I mean I'm always on my wife's side but even if I wasn't on my wife's side to say it was it was Melissa doing it.

You should never ever ever throw on kids. Does it matter? Does it matter who's kids? Your kids?

Your kids? You're getting more than wine thrown on you. So kudos to Margaret. Yeah she held back because that's a sore subject.

She made a statement. I'm saying she wanted a little bit more dirtier than that. But that's not a hard road. But you know what you can't go with Danielle?

There's no high road. She hit the low kid. She wanted that glist. She had her first.

I had her get her dress with a tear. I do it again. 10 times over. I can't.

And I believe with you every time. And you know what the best part was? Theresa was wearing a white dress next to her and I threw it on. It was so crazy.

And it didn't even get on Theresa. Is that amazing? Very good. Very good.

Very good. Very skilled. Very skilled. Can we get a play by playing out of like how many classes are on who threw what first?

Margaret and I left. We left. I didn't break a glass. I didn't break a glass.

I just threw the wine. It went by so fast. I really like it. It's like half of the blur.

Real blank out. I don't know. Somebody said Jen push me. I didn't even feel it.

I said Danielle was like a lobster in a pot. Every limb was going in every direction trying to get out at the bottom of the stairs. I do tend to get very frustrated. And I take my frustration.

So I don't understand where no glasses safe when I'm angry. I don't know where Jennifer gets off breaking a glass and threatening a glass. I mean, yeah. Yeah.

I think then Jen started playing like glass break and she was turning them into what I call them. She's like, I got a share. And I'm like, oh, you just stole my line. I break glasses.

I don't know what those kids are doing. I don't know what those kids are doing. I don't know what those two my head. I think it's what you use.

Is that what they need for? That's pretty hot. That kind of turned me on. Yeah, me too.

A little bit. I was like, damn. Okay. Thinking outside the box there.

You know, because I was supposed to put she hit her with the glass. I'm just like, if I did, you would know it. Oh, she said that too. Yeah.

I was like, wow. I like that. I got a little juicy. Big glass.

I got agitated because the piece of glass did hit my leg. So I was like, if that would hit my eye, like who's breaking, who's throwing glasses? Like that's not cool. But the red wine on a way down.

I was so mad about that. And I had white on too. Oh, yeah. I was pretty little bit got on her.

I'm sorry. I was like, oh, I read my comment. I read it so right next to you know, with the guy I haven't eaten in weeks. And like, I wanted to enjoy my meal.

Hold on. Should we sit down and have a nice sophisticated dinner after that? Like, no, we're not gonna forget dinner together. Best fight in house.

My history. Don't tell me it's not. So now that you're all cut up, make sure to watch the Real Housewives New Jersey Reunion Part 1 on Wednesday, February 20th and 9th Central. And we'll be back on Thursday for a regular episode of The Daily Dish.

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