A special Fathers Day book podcast with authors John Urschel and John Branch.

Urschel, the former Baltimore Ravens guard and current MIT math Ph.D student, on his book “Mind and Matter: A life in math and football,” on why he left football at 26 for an academic life, and why he thinks a balanced life is the best life for him.Branch, the Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Time sports writer, on his book “The Last Cowboys: A pioneer family in the new West,” on the challenge of a ranching family making in the back country of Utah, on his imaginative writing style ... and a discussion on how a great writer also needs to be an excellent reporter as well. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.