Aaron Rinehart -- Security Chaos Engineering

Aaron Rinehart is expanding the possibilities of chaos engineering to cybersecurity. He began pioneering security in chaos engineering when he released ChaoSlingr during his tenure as Chief Security Architect at UnitedHealth Group (UHG). Rinehart is the O'Reilly Author on Security Chaos Engineering and has recently founded a chaos engineering startup called Verica with Casey Rosenthal from Netflix. Aaron joins us to explain what the heck security chaos engineering is. We explore the origin story of chaos engineering and security chaos engineering, and how does a listener get started with this new techniques. We hope you enjoy this conversation with... Aaron Reinhardt is expanding the possibilities of chaos engineering to cybersecurity.The Application Security Podcast is brought to you by Security Journey.About Security JourneyAaron Reinhardt is expanding the possibilities of chaos engineering to cybersecurity.→ Learn more about Security JourneyConnect with Aaron Rinehart:→ ChaoSlingr→ VericaMentioned in this episode:→ ChaoSlingr→ Verica→ Security Chaos Engineering→ Chaos Monkey→ Kubernetes→ Apache KafkaFollow the Application Security Podcast:➜ Home➜ X➜ LinkedIn➜ YouTube➜ Instagram➜ FacebookChapters:00:00 Meet Aaron Rinehart: Security Chaos Engineering03:46 Right16:56 Yeah. Let me ask a couple of clarifying questions too, because21:31 Yeah, but I mean, you think about how much time, money26:05 You say it succeeds, you mean that the system detected an28:59 Most people doing these manual right now33:05 Let the record show I'm about to ask a product-related question34:14 What36:59 Yeah, that's helpful. So, I want to stop for a second39:40 There's entropy too, right42:30 I want to do is we're— as we're kind of coming46:07 Great. So, um, one, one kind of last question. So What's