Abiding, Humility, and Being a Christ Follower – A Conversation with Trace (Audio)

What if one of the most powerful ways to love people well is simply to listen—really listen? Joe and Trace talk about the “magic” of being genuinely interested in others, and how that posture quietly reflects the heart of Jesus. From parenting moments to everyday conversations, they explore why attentiveness communicates value—and why our self-focused culture makes that harder than it should be. We talk about what it means to be a “Christ follower” instead of just wearing the label “Christian,” and how deeper faith forms when we stop striving to manufacture fruit and start abiding in the Vine. They also reflect on humility, spiritual attack, and the freeing realization that you can’t carry your marriage, parenting, or ministry on your own strength. God isn’t asking you to perform—He’s inviting you to be with Him. If you’ve been tired, reactive, or trying to force change through willpower, this is a call back to stillness, dependence, and the kind of faith that becomes real at home.