You lose in the plot. I get it. Because I got it. Because of the white and I got two big ass lights.
Like this green got this green gold on it. No, most of that is white. This green got docks on it. All of that is white.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah it's nice. But you know, you should count yourself lucky, because you do have all that real mistake to put your shit there.
That's good. And secondly, you don't have bad eyes. Not yet. I think it's coming.
It's always inevitable, right? It's going to come eventually. But at least right now, don't. That helped your bro.
My eyes are coming up here. I'm glad you put my eyes up there. What up, bitty? I was a bad.
Hey. So you saying you need to get your prescription up? No, well, no. I think I need to get just the right one.
Because these are all these guys. The ones that I had up with Kurt, the lenses and shit got fucked up. And I think there's something about that particular type of lens that does that because my white head is the same type of lens and the exact same thing happens. So I think that's what I got to get my opposition filled with it.
Just, you know, what I'm usually wearing, not these old ones. But these are great for seeing a distance. These are not good seeing up close. They are not.
They are not. Right. Let me go throw my blue lights. Ah, shit.
It's the blue light special. Hey, bitty, we have to definitely talk. I think you already talked to Green. You know what that's like?
You already know what it's about. I just need to give you some keys, so to speak. Blue! Damn.
And I just had to go put his hand window panes on. It's dead. It's dead. It's dead.
It's dead. It's dead. It's dead. Oh, man.
So we're going to be doing some fussing today. Negative. We're definitely going to be doing some fussing today. It's, it has to happen.
There's motherfuckers, I guess. Encourageable. They really are, bro. I'll get me started.
Um, something you said to update to, like, overbores. It's like nigga. Mm hm. Damn, you got the whole Mexican medical trip too.
I mean, I've got a lot for that. I've got a lot for that. It wasn't the usual documentation. Okay.
So, you know, I, I just relaxed though. Yeah, yeah. I was like bro. It's a boo-naz-ga!
I love that. You know, me started. The same. There's going to be a lot of fussing though because it is.
We all got that one thing as a topic, but I have a bunch of stuff from the episode before like between the time and now. I just couldn't fit into that like, absolutely. Right, right. Yeah.
Like I said, man, I got this one thing that is just eating at me, just my observations. I'm not a fucking therapist. They've lost their gut, their minds. And there are reasons for it, but no one's acknowledging the reasons.
And unfortunately, getting a goddamn thing that's going to be able to solve it because it's or worse. Like it is. It's like, but it's still annoying. People are still annoying.
I'm a good people. So people so. Yeah. That's never the stop.
So fucking annoying. But you know, it is what it is. Apparently. That's trash.
Yeah. I hate it. And of course, it's no. It's a.
MEGA. Bruh. Bruh. It's like after that trip, the universe has been putting a foot in my ass to show me why you don't need to be here.
Like, see, see, remember how, remember how, remember how relaxing it was? Riding down that room, going into the great apartment in Terry Potter, kind of my city and shit, solid tall buildings and you're wearing it up there and there by having a little ball and all the palm trees, skyscrapers, ocean on one side, vendors, fucking fitness, basketball, areas and all. Boy, what else? Yeah.
Hey, it was hot. She was all. I remember. So it's 11.
And then he says I met the message. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Little bit of you wowed it. Anyway, it's 11, sometimes we'll do this.
Me, me, me, me. That's right. We not leaving that in 2020. I mean, we good.
But we won't. Welcome, everyone, to the Black Culture Kicks podcast. This is my man, SPJ. You.
And I am too much known as a dead man. And we are just a couple of geeks talking about pop culture from a plaque respecting. Facts and deed. Now listen, folks.
We're going to be bussing. Oh, yeah. You know, it reminds me of it reminds me of that scene in Boys in the Hood. Sorry, it's a burn.
Let's tell a tray. I don't know why you got to learn things the hard way, but you're going to learn. Oh, yeah. You want to learn.
Yeah. That's right. That scene right there that me and my friends have been quoting since it came. I don't know why you got to learn things the hard way.
You're going to learn. Oh, yeah. You're going to learn. That's why the fussy.
Because some of y'all don't have the best interest of any community. Indeed. Thanks. Like I said, you don't.
You don't pretend to. And you use that as a jump off point where your hideous takes all the exercise you get jumping to conclusion and shit. But you don't really mean well for the community. And it shows.
It shows. But as we've told you before, we typically stop the stories nowadays. We'll be getting to our personal ranks. What up, Stella?
What up? What up? So with that, I should turn the mic over to my esteemed co-host, S.P.J. All right.
All right. That was the story. It was the story of a guy named Bob. What up?
What up? What up? This story? There was a story that we talked about.
And there's been an update to the story. It is about a lady that got on TikTok and said that she'd been hit for brick by a guy. And they were a bunch of guys sitting around. And nobody did anything.
And how horrible it is for nobody to have come to her defense, which if true, sure. Right. Yeah. And to give you guys the recap of our coverage of this particular thing.
It's important, though. It's important. I brought it to the show. And at that point in time, in the saga of how it was unfolding, it had appeared as though things weren't added, no.
Right. Things weren't added. Math wasn't added. So we got away here.
We talked about it. And it was very clear. Well, both of us were very clear that with the information that we had to that point, it seemed like there was something fishy going on. Right.
The next time that we talked about the story, we came on here. We looked at the content and context of our previous takes. We compared that to the new information that was available. And we adjusted our take.
Yep. We moved towards, OK, actually, this might have happened. This might have been a thing. And it's absolutely terrible.
You know, protect like women, all that other stuff that we say all the goddamn stuff. And we moved. Yes. Yes.
There was another time that we talked about this. And in the time between that time and this new time, we had looked at what we said, the content and the context. We took that. We used the new information that we had available at our disposal.
And we came to the conclusion that we were confused. Right. It may have happened. It may not have happened.
Bottom line that we gave, this shit should never happen. But take a leg with it. Right. Top violin.
Because evidence weighs us. Because evidence weighs us. And when you are loud, you need to keep that same volume. That's really it.
No, normalization is a whole thing. And there's a whole thing. Go away from it. Thanks.
Just keep that same value. That's all it has. And because some people have a problem with that. Because that's the first part.
Like, we usually complain about is the next step. But the first step is really keep that same value. People say volume. Same value.
I want to hear whatever comes next. If you talk about this thing again, whatever comes next, I need you to be just as loud as you were. Exactly. When you made whatever take you made that exactly.
Now that second part that we always talk about is, that's some integrity. That's some integrity. If you was throwing on something, it turns out that it even didn't happen or there was some hole somewhere that you didn't previously know. Or whatever it takes maybe, it's OK to adjust your take.
It really is. Can we normalize that in 2024? It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen.
It's actually the problem. A big part of the problem is bias doesn't just work for negative things. Facts. Facts.
Bias doesn't just work for negative things. You can have great. You get the best intentions of the world. And advice.
Hey, what you believed been true, you would have been on the right side of this fight. And let me play. Let me play. Let me see.
Let me share the screen. And that's a fact. You just go with not all biases. Correct.
It's a fact. All right. This is the new information that we received. Go fund me.
All we gave here is we're talking with the prosecutor on this case tonight. He was live there to get away with his rice. Yeah, Houston police got called to the street in September. And when they arrived, the woman seen in that viral video told them that Uber driver threw a brick at her head and then tried to kidnap her.
But tonight she has become the focus of this criminal investigation because Houston police say that surveillance footage captured by cameras on this street. It doesn't match her story. You know, this man just hit me and my face want to bring him all these weapons. And this video with more than a million likes on the shaderooms.
Instagram page captured the moments after what appeared to be a brutal attack in West Houston. I'm going to have many of my face. The woman is 33 year old. It wrote an osmosis.
What have I ever done to anybody in my life to deserve this? See here in tears in a hospital gown. She told detective the response that she was hit in the head with a brick after she refused to get her phone number to a guy on the street. And was that verified by any of the evidence that detectives looked at?
No. That was not very fun. Harris County prosecutor Keith Houston says surveillance videos from that early September morning show Osman hitting a man first. So she's the one who needs you with the arrest arm.
She was the arrest. She was the arrest with a water bottle that hit her, not a brick. He did have a water bottle in his hand. And we think that's what left the mark.
According to court documents, she asked someone else to launch this GoFundMe for her recovery, raising more than $42,000. But as the story went viral, a blogger on TikTok called police alerting them to this 2020 GoFundMe, which claimed a vicious assault by his security guard in Minneapolis. You could verify with many apples, police. That there was no assault then at that time.
There was completely fictional prosecutors alleged theft by deception and believed she would have received all that money at the campaign and not been shut down. And my mother has suffered a systemic threat. It's just unbelievable. I can't even believe I'm here.
They try to leave me for dinner. In an Instagram story posted Wednesday, Osman addressed those who have doubted her. I actually have things going on in my life. I actually have real ways to make money.
I'm happy to be a GoFundMe. I actually can earn income. I'm actually educated. I actually am talented.
And tonight a spokesperson for GoFundMe, telling KPRC2, GoFundMe has the zero tolerance for the misuse of our platform. The fundraiser has been removed from the platform. All donors have been refunded. And Rhoda Osman has been banned from using the platform for any future fundraisers.
Osman did not respond when I reached out to her on Instagram this evening. Tonight she is wanted here in Harris County on that theft charge anyone with information on her whereabouts. Get report that to Houston police. OK.
Oh. It goes in there. They need a little bit of a truncation. What up?
Sean, what up? So basically, what she did was she went on TikTok. And before the news clip, we had no proof that this is what she told you to delete. So let me play about this.
What she said on TikTok and what she told the police had no correlation. Whether she told, whether she said the same thing to both or not. You're not, you can. But we're not judging her on what she said on TikTok.
Right. That's what she said to the police. What she said to the police. But it actually happens to match in this instance.
When she got on TikTok, she said there was a guy. He attacked her because he asked for her number. And she didn't give it to him. That is the claim that she made.
I've never driven Uber or Lyft. So I don't know if this is a fact or not. But I do know that I would have food. I used to eat.
And all those other. When you use one of those services, the person who is responding to you, how is your number? Yep. Yep.
They have your number already. They have your number. And you know what they look like usually before they get to your house because they're there. Yeah.
Right there. So yeah, I've had a sense. How do you play the birthday? What up, Sandy?
What up? What up? What up? So there's during our coverage of the TikTok story.
There was a part that I left out when I just went over the replay. There's a big, what up, what up, Mighty Mike? What up, Mike? There's a big social media personality huge in the, I'm going to go to call it.
But he largely advocates for us. Yeah. And people who look like us. Similar to Ben, as I've said about Daniel here several times.
His next consciousness, by the way. I think, consciously, is an necessity. Because if you agree with everything that the people who seem to be on your side say and do, you're probably not looking hard enough. Thanks.
So I still follow him. He's still has some value to what he absolutely does. I hate you so much because I know what you're type. I'm not even going to look.
So when we talked about this and it had seemed like it was some fishy going on, I called out consciously. And I'm like, oh, you was super loud with the attacking of people who didn't believe this story. Keep that energy. When we came back and it seemed like it was real.
I retracted that. It's all over here. I retracted that because evidence weighs us. Yeah, there was nothing for him to take back at that point.
Right. He was firm in his stance. And at that point, it appeared as though that's where it just sets. Yeah.
So now, as it came out, because the first thing that came out about it was an article. Yeah. It was an article from a site that neither tuned or I really mean the most critical, mainly because the lack of familiarity with it. Also, there are certain rules about the sources I use that I am unfamiliar with, one of which is I do take issue with an article citing another article website as a reference.
I see that's like, no, it's a little fishy. Well, that's only fishy, but lazy. It's lazy. Yeah.
Something extreme lazy going on if you're that lazy, then you it's it's it's stands to the reason that you didn't bet. Yeah, that's what it looks like. It feels like you did. Yeah.
Right. And I don't believe you better need it. Right. So when I when I when I when I say I think it would have been more fair for donors to decide if they wanted to donate, I'm not sure what that's the best thing about this.
The go from the I agree. Just from a business standpoint and keeping the credibility of their platform. They can't have something where it looks like people being defrauded platform. It would definitely be the deaf now.
Yeah. I'll go find me. I think she just should have worried differently. Is she the word?
Clearly something happened. Something clearly happened. Right. She should have worked.
To be clear. We you have not heard us and will not hear us on this episode. Talk about nothing happened to us. There's a video with her face.
There's a video. Right. Yeah. So if she would have phrased it differently, I don't think this would even be an issue.
But just me. Drop the video because here's what happens. And we're going to definitely get into this more and after that. When you go hard for something like this and you're a big account, they're going to be people against you.
Regardless. Regardless. Because they're in it just because you're a big account and you're making a strong sense. They're going to be some people.
So when all this came out, oh, you know his shit got blown up. Yeah. Oh, he, so I first before I saw this video, I just played I saw him responding to some other Twitter and it's like he was holding face and then I was going to take that and I saw somebody talking about him and they had stitched his video because he made a video. Let's listen to that video.
Oh, we can't listen to the video. That's great. The sound has been removed. Oh, I don't know why.
That's crazy. I don't know why that's crazy. I don't know why the sound has been removed. I don't know.
Let me see if he has another video because for some reason his sound has been removed. It's the same way. Did I see you? Did you ever had a move that game?
No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, the sound is going to move and I had no idea what. Yeah, every other video of his works. You think you think he.
You think he. You think he. I don't think he included any other video in it, but the thing is, is the guy that stitched together. No, this is his original video.
Okay. No, consciously, he's original video. The sound has been removed. And when with that notification, I mean TikTok took the sound off.
That's crazy. I don't know why. That's maybe he might have been a mess reporter. Because he because basically he was given an excuse.
He gave an excuse for every single hole in the story. Instead of making a slight adjustment because it's really, let's be honest. Just slight adjustment. If you see it, the way you see it is the way you see it.
Yeah. It's going to be colored by your personal bias. Absolutely. Obviously.
But the facts of the story are she made this claim that was categorically false. Because the result of what happened and what her story was, similar people are saying, well, it doesn't matter what she said. No, no, it doesn't matter. It matters.
It matters. This too is also good face versus bad face. Good intent versus bad intent. While I accept the evidence of my eyes in that first video when she talked about her face was swollen, something happened.
She got hit by something. But the fact that she felt that she needed to embellish by saying it was a brick. And that the guy tried to get her number. And she said no, and he attacked her when the evidence of the video is she was the aggressor.
She hit him first. And that there was seen no brick. No brick at all. So I'm looking at some of the people that saw on Twitter who are attempting to hold fast to the original story, even though the evidence is not matching that going with the idea of you ever been hit in a place with a bottle.
Listen, as somebody who grew up doing the era of glass bottles, y'all not going to sit here and complete when most water bottles are plastic. That's not to say that it doesn't hurt a full bottle. But it should be fair. Yeah, it's true.
And it's going to be what it means to bottle it. It didn't say what kind of bottle it was. It didn't say what kind of bottle it was. Oh, yeah.
I see a lot of dumb. I ain't going to call them dumb. I think it's not an issue of being dumb. It's an issue of their bias.
It was a plastic. We don't know. We don't know. Right.
We don't know. Right. So here's a couple of screenshots. There's a couple things about this particular situation.
Because I'm really upset that his sound was gone because of the level of gymnastics that he was doing. He was on copium. He was on copium. He was on copium.
The level of gymnastics he was doing were like Simone Baugh's level. It was on P. Gagged. P.
Gagged. Here's one. So here's one of his Twitter. Oh, so reply as well as it is.
It's a video to do confessing to a certain girl in the article and admit she was assaulted. But somehow she's learning about it all still. That's crazy. I'm not responding to him and saying, sir, this is not the hill you want to die on.
She's a scanning theater. Save your energy for legitimate victims, please. That's one of my other pet peeves about this too. I'm not that poor.
The idea that these sort of people. I hate when y'all give the red pill mad kid guys a data point to taking it wrong way and then projected it on every victim. Everything. I hate the charge of that.
Yeah. And so you have people complaining, of course. Somebody said niggas never get more carceral and have more faith in the system than when it's against a black woman. But let it run away from a white woman after asking her to be his character and he's a victim of the system.
There's so much that response that says it's really hard to have that same system that arrests us and victimizes them would do the same to us with some misogyny sprinkle on top. This is a long way literally just as likely to get mistreated by the system is them but we supposed to call them people. Here's the thing. Unfortunately for us as human beings, life isn't black and white.
So when you were the police defendant. It's a black man and a black woman. Like I get the argument that you're making. And in general, without this evidence that we don't deserve it.
Right. I would try it together. Like if women get less protected, black people get less protected. That therefore a black woman would be less.
Yes. Absolutely. Your logic tracks however they defend this black guy. We have evidence.
There's video evidence. This is what happens when your well intentioned activist clouds everything else because this is something that might be controversial to only those who don't value evidence. Every single time the police lock somebody up. The police are not wrong every single time.
No, because not wrong every single time. That's not how any of this works. That's not how any of this works. No, no.
Um, legitimately every single time you talk about the police locking somebody up and this day and time you're going to have to cherry pick literally every time you can't make a bunch of sense about something like that because they're not always wrong. That's right. I'm not even in real because I can't trust your analysis on any of this stuff. If you can't keep it real.
They're the situation. They've seen it. They've been a situation with downtown, some public place, whatever. And a motherfucker was wilding or doing something he had no business on.
Maybe you got mugged. Maybe you got pickpocketed. Maybe somebody stole your car. Maybe somebody did anything to you and in the police came they found to do or whatever was not wrong.
Was this a wrong for arrest? Every arrest is not a wrong for arrest. No, it's just not. And like there are people harping on the water bottle thing like why?
I don't know if you've ever been hitting the face. But generally unless it was unless it had a certain effect on you. Meaning it involved you much or it bugs you a hell of a lot more than you were able to deal with. In that middle ground your reflexes are going to take over.
Whatever that reflexes is. Whatever it is. That's what's going to take over in that incident. If I happen to have something in my dominant hand and someone slaps me in my face guess what's happening next.
It's getting thrown. I got a free hand. I got a free hand. Ball's a hand.
I got a free hand. Ball's a hand. I got a free hand. I just.
This is the other another point about what you're saying right there bro. Stop hitting each other. Listen, there's been too many incidents where you see in domestic violence cases right here. Where as they start breaking down the history of the relationship most of the time you'll see there's one aggressor that's constantly doing that shit.
But then there are these times doubted in that where it's mutual combatants. Where they are looking each other up. So. I think each other phrase.
So that's not your first name. So Texas and I think Seattle. Seattle. I know what you're about to say.
A few states that have a mutual combat law on the books. And because people can't think past black and white. Right. And because people don't know how to comprehend.
That's the other. People are thinking that because she lied. She's not going to get justice for being the salt. Right.
Two things can be true. What she the car warrant is for defrauding on. Go fund. Right.
That is what her warrant is. Right. I don't know if there will be a charge for a police report. I don't know.
But what they're talking about is for it. It's for the go fund. They have him on tape. They have the evidence that there was about to be harm.
The mutual combat law. I don't know about saying that. But at least in Texas. You can fight as long as both consented to the fight and had to be explicitly a verbally stated life.
It has to be reasonably understood. Right. Until serious bodily harm is caused. Right.
If we go in by the letter of that law. Exactly. Exactly. If you want to get in trouble.
She is too. Right. She was the aggressor. She hit him.
Right. They want to charge him both. Right. Right.
She is too. Right. She was the aggressor. Right.
He hit her. They want to charge him both. Right. So like.
She's going to get her justice. But what we're not going to do is to act like she didn't lie. And that the camera footage. Says the opposite of what she was telling everybody.
No. What we're not going to do is act like these these lies are a misremembering. Right. Right.
Or B. Negligible. Right. They're not either of those two things.
And that's what the defenders are trying to do. Yeah. That's what they're asserting. Yeah.
That's what they're expressing. Right. And that's what they're trying to do. Right.
That's what they're describing. Right. That's what they're saying. Right.
And the first video was right after it happened. Yeah. She didn't get knocked out. No.
That first video was right after it happened. Could we at least argue the possibility that she inflated all that stuff because in her head she knew what actually took place. She wouldn't get as much sympathy for this thing. Is that at least within the realm of possibility.
Especially because now this I have no facts on I have no evidence of. I've just heard people say, but she's done this. Go funny thing before. before.
Yeah. Yeah. So you saw somebody talking about how to eat. He did some whole bunch of legal shit against her because of that.
And finally, it's like it's about to get some justice behind it because she's done before. Right. Right. So it's like, I don't normally, here's the other element of this is even though her actions directly caused this, she herself singular human is getting an undue, but almost undue level of hatred towards her.
But no, you know what it is, right? She's getting red because and people do this all time. They made her a proxy for all of the, absolutely taking place online between black men, black women, period, all that she became a whipping boy for that. And because of this, like, people don't even know her have this rage and you see it in their comments about this.
One thing you've noticed when you see me and as we can talk about this, we're kind of attached, attached, there's been parts of it because this did not happen specifically to us or anybody that we know. He stands on a principle to stop hitting each other. Right. He stayed on that principle.
We also stand on the principle. Like, yo, we've been talking about going to do right. But this allows us to be able to absorb new evidence and be able to change our minds. Some of your motherfuckers are not in this for that reason.
Now, I don't know what you think you're doing, but you're not helping out. I'm not helping this conversation. The way you guys are framing it and handling it. It's not, it's not helping because is that what you want?
You want to keep in between black men and black women? That's what you want? Because this is a good way to do it. A good way not to do it, though, is just to take the evidence as it's given.
Like, all right, this is what we know so far. None of you Sherlock Holmes motherfuckers out there are going to be out there with your magnifying glass. Yeah, so you're going to be out there doing none of this. So all you're getting is that same evidence that everybody else is getting.
You can interpret it as you will. Although I look at some of you and realize just from the type of argumentation that you use in these conversations, you don't really have a critical thinking in your body. So your analysis is skewed and fucked up. But the fact that you are hyper emotional about it makes it even worse.
Y'all up here making these blanket statements about each other. And helping out community one bit. As if we don't already have bad PR, that I'm a machine put together that constantly feeds society with that shit. So they frame every situation with us a certain type of way.
Now we got to see y'all in these comments calling each other all like names and this type of shit is ridiculous. And what it reminds me of if you ever walked into a third grade class as a substitute teacher and saw the way the kids are in there before you exert some sort of a funny that's how this shit looked to me. Yeah, yeah. There's another guy on TikTok that I follow.
He does a lot of the same. Not saying. He appears to have a similar goal as consciously. But the way he goes about his content is slightly different.
And I fucking him. He disappointed me. He disappointed me. But the way that he communicates is such that even in disappointment, he brought clarity.
What is going on with a lot of these people that are standing ten toes down on the bullshit is they're arguing a different argument than we are. Yes. The argument that they're trying to argue is that the macro is still the case. Where is nobody in good faith that is asking you to address the new evidence.
You're talking about the fucking macro. Nobody. That's what's going on. Right.
That's what's going on. Nobody is saying. So like women always lie about this. Nobody is doing that.
That single throw in good faith is making this argument. You know who I'm making lose making that argument? All the bad faith actors that always make the bad arguments right always side on effect. Oh no, they always lying.
They always know that's not what's happening for everybody else. He projecting that shit on to everybody else that says that looks at the evidence and goes, yo, the math ain't mapping right here. Right. The math ain't mapping right.
Oh, so you say that women always know? No, no, I'm talking about this specifically specifically because I was so hard on this specific story. Yes. Yes.
Yes. Absolutely. When you guys were talking about this story, if I love it, you absolutely added in the other larger. Yes.
Brandifications and all that. Yes. Absolutely. That's not what we're talking about.
We're saying in this specific situation because of the attacking that you guys did to people who were skeptical. Right. And the attacking that your Legion has done. Yeah.
To people who were skeptical. Say something. And it really screws up your credibility too because to the people that was skeptical, most of these, well, those folks, I can't say most, but a lot of those folks, but typically side with you. All of the other larger points you're making absolutely.
But now because new evidence is introduced and you can't even factor that in, right, now your credibility is as such where a person like me would be like, I can't really trust your analysis on too much about these things because this is obviously a blind spot for you. Right. So I don't know that there's much value. Well, you have to say about this unless there is a shadow of a doubt this place and then sure that you have to say as bad you, but if there's ever any sort of ambiguity, you ain't the person to go to.
Well, there's commentary because you can't accept new data as it's added. Here's how that looks practically. What changes say that? Here's how that looks practically.
That's the following country. I am still going to follow this other guy. What's going to happen though is if ever I see a story from them first, that's not going to be the video. I'm going to go elsewhere to verify.
I'm going to verify it now because this is such a, this is really not the issue is wrote that practically. Yeah, this is not a difficult thing to emotionally or practically to not write just for practical purposes. Oh, I thought this because the available information at the time said this. What's that new information has been added to this open system.
Oh, well, this I see this right now because the new this is not difficult, bro. No, what makes it difficult is that there is disbelief that has been fostered and unfortunately played into by news media and that's something that I want to get to later when we start talking about our weeks. There's a there's this belief that has kind of set in stone now with a lot of people that once you are of this one opinion, you must stay right there in this one opinion, regardless of any new evidence that is shown. And it's a recipe for the havoc you see now.
It's the reason why when I posted on Facebook the other day. Yeah, I shared a post from my man, Doc Sint. I don't know who needs to hear this, but that struggle date you're arguing with who made that ridiculous take is an interesting logical or rational discussion. Right.
That's why that's why that was appealing to me because I know of which the person is talking about. And we're seeing more and more of that sort of person they had they are set in stone with if they're not gesturing, they're set in stone with a certain belief system that no amount of evidence is going to shake them out of it is a complete waste of time you focus on convincing them the people surrounding they be listening to the conversation. Sure. But that individual there is locked in place frozen in time.