Active vs Passive investing: A Pointless Debate for Financial Planners?

In this episode of Financial Planner Life, host Sam Oakes sits down with Andrew Spence, Co-Founder of Aspen, to challenge the industry’s most controversial questions - what we call the Marmite topics of financial planning.Aspen was born out of something deeper than disruption. After a personal health crisis led Andrew to reflect on the impact of his work, he decided to build a model portfolio service that put purpose, clarity & client outcomes first.Now, he’s leading the charge on topics that divide financial services professionals daily.🚨 Here’s what we cover:Is evidence-based investing just clever branding - or genuinely better for clients?Why most risk profiling tools are broken & unhelpfulShould financial planners choose sides in the active vs passive debate?The rise of Bitcoin, the return of gold, & the role of private equity in portfoliosHow Aspen uses tech that actually works for financial planners & their clientsWhy first-principles thinking beats copy-paste product designAndrew shares why financial planners need to stop overcomplicating things & start designing investment experiences that genuinely serve the people behind the portfolios.This is a must-watch for:✔️ Financial planners seeking clarity in the chaos✔️ Firms looking to improve their MPS offering✔️ Advisers questioning the one-size-fits-all model✔️ Anyone ready to rethink what investment management should look like📩 Learn more about Aspen or book a discovery session.  🔗 Follow Sam Oakes & Financial Planner Life on LinkedIn00:00 - Intro: From engineering to investment management  00:34 - Andrew's early career & first role in wealth management  02:45 - A personal health crisis & the search for purpose  04:44 - Is finance a noble profession?  05:39 - Why start an MPS business in a saturated market?  08:06 - How engineering logic shaped Aspen's investment approach  09:33 - Building intuitive tech for financial planners  11:05 - Starting from scratch: Aspen’s early days & growth  13:28 - Early supporters & the power of trust in MPS  14:41 - Social proof & buying decisions in financial planning  16:17 - Could AI avatars replace financial advisers?  18:21 - Active vs Passive - is the debate pointless?  22:34 - Is evidence-based investing just marketing?  25:16 - Why risk profiling is broken  29:01 - Should Bitcoin or gold be in portfolios?  32:44 - Is private equity too complex for clients?  34:43 - Andrew’s approach to LinkedIn & thought leadership  37:04 - Sam’s take: Building trust & visibility on LinkedIn  41:04 - Why YouTube is a goldmine for financial planners  42:37 - Sam’s full breakdown of a video-first marketing setup  45:19 - Turning content into conversations & conversions  46:32 - Engagement matters: Don’t post & ghost  48:24 - What’s next for wealth management & MPS?  50:01 - Final reflections & how to connect with Aspen  QFrXdmRdqMuoQ1DSQ5qdFinancial Planner Life is sponsored by Redmill AdvanceWhether you're starting out, already qualified, or building a training academy, Redmill Advance delivers expert-led learning, exam support and CPD from Level 4 to Chartered.✅ Trusted by top UK firms👉 www.redmilladvance.com/fplBe sure to follow Financial Planner Life on YouTube for extra content about  career development within Financial Planning. Reach out to [email protected] in regards to sponsorship, partnerships, videography or podcast production. Want to appear on the Financial Planner Life podcast? Drop Sam a message.