I don't even know where to go with any of this. Tell, where are we at? What are we doing? Palm Springs. I think by the time this comes out, we won't be under embargo anymore. So we can talk about it now. Palm Springs, California. What are we doing? We are at a product launch. Yeah, that's my first one. Same here, same here. So John Hunter, you work for SCCA. What is your title there? Time Trials Program Manager. Time Trials Program Manager.
We're basically the same. I mean, except that's my actual full-time job, whereas you're like... I work full-time with good luck, dude. Yeah, and full-time. Just manage AJ's glass also. It's fine. They mesh. I can't get fired from either. That's brilliant. You've built that well. Except for terribly. It's a terrible idea. So I left my house at 3.30 in the morning, went to O'Hare, flew to Dallas, Fort Worth, and then I didn't even know it, but I happened to be sitting next to a bunch of YouTubers that were coming to this thing also, people I didn't know.
Emily and her husband? The ones from Texas. Texas, yeah. They're very nice. I don't know what their YouTube channel is. I'm sure they're vastly more famous. She mentioned it, and it sounds like it's a very eclectic ADD approach to all RVs and boats and cars and all sorts of stuff. There's a lot of interesting YouTubers here. So I sat next to them, but they didn't say anything to me. But after we got on the Hoosier bus leaving...
I don't know what it's called. It's a nice little airport. It is a nice little airport. We got on the bus, and then they were like, oh, we were going to say hi to you because you're wearing True Work pants, and True Work sends us clothes. Did they send you clothes, too? I'm like, no. They sent you clothes. I love True Work pants, by the way. They're incredibly strong. Great pants. I buy all their apparel. Highly recommend. I'm a cool guy, apparently, now. What's cool guy mean?
K-U-H-L with umlauts over the U. With the little dots? Yeah. Oh, man, what do they sell? Outdoor-ish clothing. Outdoor-ish. So, yeah, hiking and that kind of stuff. Outdoor-ish. Very, very comfortable, and they wear well. And James Avelina, my buddy James Avelina does time trials. Is outdoor-ish a recommendation, or is that like a, it's fake? No, you can wear it outdoor, and you can do outdoor things, but, you know, it's kind of like putting a tent on your...
You're a forerunner in Tacoma. Most people aren't using it for the intended purpose. You're not hardcore, but it'll work? Yeah, or you can be hardcore, but most people aren't. Sure. I don't know how hardcore of a hiker I am. We do go hiking quite a bit. I got to turn on them because they fit. It's a good name. It's a good fit. Oh, yeah, and I love being able to wear cool clothes. Yeah, cool clothes is cool. I've never had cool clothes. I buy clothes based on their functionality and how much I can snag them on things and have them not rip. That's an important thing. Yeah, so we're in the desert.
In the middle of the desert that's thankfully not as hot as it has been. No, it's gorgeous right now. It's like 75 right now. Should we paint a picture for the folks at home? I've never been to Palm Springs. Have you been here? Never. My other favorite thing is I'm sitting on the bus. I knew a couple of the people just from like general recognition. I was like, that's a Tyrac guy. That other guy might be a Tyrac guy. And I know David, the owner of Forgeline Wheels. He's sitting across from me. And the first thing he said to me was something like, those GLTC Corvettes, huh? And so he knew who I was, I guess. But then the...
The door on the bus shuts, and the lady from Hoosier, who we're here with Hoosier Tires, Continental, gets a phone call and says, oh, we've got to wait a minute. There's somebody else coming. Ben's late. And the nice YouTuber who gets true work clothes for free, Emily, I think. Emily, yeah.
I don't know her last name. Neither do I. Her and her husband. We will figure it out. Yeah, we'll find it. But I'm bad at YouTube. But she says, oh, oh, Ben. And somebody else says, do you know who Ben is? And she goes, no. And then I'm just like staring at my phone. And Ben Lin from Gears of Gasoline just marches on the bus. I was like, what's up, buddy?
And then we proceeded to talk the entire time, and everyone was looking at him like he was the cool kid. And so, by proxy, I was the cool kid. Yes, yes. Which is kind of fun and really bizarre. It's been a strange day. Yeah. Oddly, I probably woke up about the same time that you left for the airport, which is not productive here because that's when I am here. But I did not have to leave for the airport until 9-ish. So I had an easy, nice little two-hour flight down Palm Springs with a BMW.
blogger, apparently. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Nate. Good dude. Yeah, good dude. He and his fiance came down. Did you know that he was coming for the Hoosier thing? Yeah, we, since we were not going to be in time to take the bus with y'all from the airport, who was it? Kayla or Julia or whoever from Hoosier. Well, no, no. She sent us a lift thing to cover the lift cost and make sure that we knew we were coming in on the same flight and that kind of thing. So we knew we were on the same flight together. There was like 10 or 15 of us on the van, bus van.
What a bizarre experience. It's been a bizarre experience. Like I said, it's your first time, it's my first time doing anything like this. Having the whole pampered red carpet treatment thing is interesting. Alright, let's get into that. So, on the itinerary, they were like...
Basically, it said we're staying in La Quinta. Yeah, you think, okay, La Quinta. And you've been to La Quinta. I've been to La Quinta or two. It's one of the hotels of all time. I mean, yeah. It's one of the hotels that exists. And we pulled into this place. And I guess it's in the town of La Quinta? And the clue is La Quinta Resort. It's a 98-year-old, like...
There's got to be, what, 100 cottages? Yeah, for sure. There's 41 swimming pools. Yeah. And there's, like, this giant main house and this incredible... Like, everything is, like, five-star. Yeah, it's super nice. And it's 45 acres. Is it 45 acres? 45 acres. Good night. And, like, you walk around, it's the most impeccably groomed place I've ever seen. Like, everything about it is more impressive. Like, the closer you... Every time you go to a hotel, the closer you look, the worse it gets. Right, right, right. This place might be the inverse. It might be the inverse. Like, look at that beautiful pool. I was going to say, we've got to paint a picture. We're sitting on my patio, and we have a hot tub within 11 feet of us and a pool within 18 feet of us, and it's just for my room and five other rooms. And a... What a...
50-foot palm tree on your right and another one on our left. A beautiful, you know, starry night with a full moon. I do have one complaint, though. I went to the marketplace store. This Perrier sparkling water that I bought, it was like $10. Well, yeah. Yeah, it's pretty expensive. I mean, we're at a five-star place. Yeah, it's pretty nice. You could be drinking the free Hoosier stuff. Yeah, Hoosiers need a branded water. So this is the first press event Hoosier's ever done. Hoosier coffee cups? Yeah. Just everything, the amount of things here that are branded. The Hoosier branded hotel key. Yeah, literally the plastic keys. Yeah, are branded with the tire information. Anyway, so we're at Ballin Resort. We don't know why we're here. We're only here with a few other people. We happen to know most of them.
Yeah. We had dinner today with Zach from Smoking Tire, you, myself, Ben Lynn, and two of the Hoosier guys, who ended up being like, one of them was, where's that guy from? Charlotte. But the other guy. Oh, the other guy. He's got to be from like Europe. Yeah, he's from another country. Yeah, yeah. He was a continental guy. Super cool, actually. For sure. But I thought it would be an awkward dinner, because you and me and Ben knew each other, and I knew Zach a little bit, and so we started talking, and the Hoosier guys sat down. But then like... Ben knew Zach. Yeah. They kind of knew each other. Yeah. But like, I mean, we went for like...
It was like a three hour dinner. Right. No, time flew by. I had no idea how late it was. It was freaking great. Yeah. Microphone should have been in the middle of the table because there's so much good conversation that should not be shared with the masses. One of the best nights that I've had. It was good. And it was like the greatest steak I've had in the past 18 months. And for those who know me, they've heard me talk about like I don't often eat steaks. Being from Nebraska, it's usually just an opportunity to be disappointed with, you know, coming from the farm. Well, I didn't come from the farm. But the farm, anyways. The farm was right there. Yeah. And those people knew how to cook them. Yeah. My grandparents, they knew how to take care of steak, right?
That was a good steak. That was, I was impressed. It was, yeah. Normally you don't get like a, it was a, it was a proper filet. It was a filet mignon, but you don't get one like that thick, but also that perfectly cooked. Yeah, they nailed the cook. I said medium rare, because they said medium to medium rare, and I told them, I was like, okay, please do medium rare, and they nailed it. I mean, that was, it was good. I didn't want to cook a steak like that. Yeah. So, who's just launching a 200-year-old?
Yeah, they're doing a straight tire. They're tackling it in front of us. There's a guy from NASA here. There's a bunch of YouTubers. There is Tire Reviews, T-Y-R-E, a guy from England. Oh, that's, yeah, the guy from England. I was talking to him a little bit. There's the BMW blogger guy. There were some people here yesterday, you said? Yeah, there's a couple different groups coming through. Justin Tillis, most people should know. He was here checking out the tire. I know Andy Hollis was supposed to be here today, on track today, but he'll be here for tomorrow, probably to obviously take a look at it and get some information out for grassroots. So I think there was, it was, yesterday I think was more of the,
Industry side. Industry side. And today was more of the social influencers side, which I don't know how you and I got tagged up in this. I know I was supposed to be a Hayward. I was supposed to be a Hayward Wagner, but they got a John Hunter instead. We're accidentally the three sanctioning bodies, I guess. Yeah. Sanctioning bodies and influencers. Right. Because I've raced in both of your sanctioning bodies. And I continue to be friends with at least you. And I have such wildly flaming imposter syndrome right now. Like, this room is ridiculous. This resort is ridiculous. I'm flying. Like, I got good seats, too. Like, decent seats.
American Airlines is pretty solid. Like, I have leg room. Oh, see, I was able to ask for what airlines I wanted. I'm like, I want to fly Alaska because that's what I usually fly. And, I mean, I think they would have put us on that anyways. Oh, dude. Pretty good? Dude. It's my favorite. It's my favorite. Obviously, I'm from Seattle, so it makes it easy. But one of my favorite things, they don't.
very rarely do you have a layover. Almost all their flights are dragged. Like Boston to Seattle. Pittsburgh to Seattle. Nashville to Seattle. What are the prices like? They're not bad. I mean, it's about the same as you would get for, actually, any of their flights have a layover or more. Interesting. And it's just, it's very nice in the, yeah, I'm always impressed with them. It's one of my favorite group to fly with, for sure. I've never flown to Alaska. I typically fly United.
This is the first time in like 20 years I've flown American. And I was pretty impressed. It was pretty nice. But, yeah. Well, when you come to Seattle to visit and turn some laps to the Ridge. Dude, I've heard the Ridge is great. The Ridge is great. The Ridge is a really, really fun track. I want to bring Time Tres National Tour back to the Ridge. I want to grow some out here. It's been a couple years now. Yeah. We came out with Jason and the fine folks at Global Time Attack. Yeah, they've been doing it for a couple years now. Yeah, they've been growing strong. They're doing a good job with their event. How is that place to rent? Super expensive or no? It's not bad. It's right in the ballpark. It's your mid-tier track rental. Fun track.
So, yeah. But it has become, if you're a West Coast person, to me, it's the butt wheel of the Pacific Northwest. If anybody says what kind of times you're in, they're talking about the range. Watching the live stream for GTA, it was only a few weeks ago. Yeah, that was really recent. It used to be in July, and they moved it off. The track looks pretty fun. It is. They had bad weather, but luckily, the track still looks fun. Yeah. It seemed like everybody still went out, so the track must not stink. Yeah, no, and they had some decent days, because I know my buddy, like I mentioned already, James Avelina, he set a new street class record.
Everything that I watched was wet, but they did break some records. That's the problem with time trials. It's when it gets wet, like the intensity goes way down. Or it doesn't go down enough. Well, it may be. But you can't break records. It's really hard to break records when it's wet. We started establishing wet records a while ago, but then we had to put parameters in there for what's wet. What's wet, right. Well, for us, I think it would be, you know, because we declare rain events, and that's when you can change shows. I think that's when we would establish. That's kind of what we did. It was like, well, it's damp. We can't do wet because it's almost dry. Like the back half of the track, the apexes are dry. No, you can't have a wet record.
I've got to see a sprayer on the car the entire time. Freaking barbarian race car drivers start competing for wet records then. Yeah. The presentation today that Hoosier gave us before dinner, the dinner was phenomenal. It was very interesting. I found it more interesting than I thought it would. I thought, well, they're just going to make the overdog 200 truck wear.
But it does kind of almost seem like it might be a regular 200 tread wear. I'm really curious to see how it drives tomorrow. I'm thinking its pace is going to be really good. I think it's probably a little too good, but... That's why I'm curious about the longevity, and that's why I kept digging on him with a little bit of some questions here and there on that. I did not want to answer those questions. No, like, it's... Yeah, for me, it's... You know it's going to wear fast. Yeah, well... It's kind of a cool-looking tire, too. It's a cool-looking tire. It's a wide tread block design, asymmetrical.
I did feel the bead. The bead feels like it's kind of a serrated bead. It's not a smooth bead, which they talked a lot about the braking and forward grip characteristics. You'd kind of need a bead that might. But yeah, the biggest thing that intrigued me is they talked about how lightweight it was going to be. Oh, that was a cool thing. Yeah. Seven to 25% lighter than the average tire. Yeah. The average tire, that's like, what, two to six pounds of rotational weight? Yeah.
He changed it to ounces at one point. I don't know if he caught that. So I'll be really curious to see what the actual weights come out to be. He said percentages, but when he said pounds, he's like, I mean ounces. Because if it's six pounds lighter, depending on the tire, I suppose. If it's a 21-inch tire, that makes sense. Of course, I have the bigger issue, the bigger elf in the room with the tire, with our program and the tire coming out at...
What did you say? Five point three thirty seconds. Yeah. Which, as you say, for street tires requires seven thirty seconds. Is that for just TT stuff? No, that's actually standard for autocross. Yeah, that's that was a standard set as we offered in seven thirty seconds. Yeah. So it'll be interesting to see how it goes.
how the tires is received, how it wears, and to be able to move forward. So they're bringing it out in kind of a staggered release in sizes? Yeah, fairly standard. They're going with big tires to start off with. Real big tires, 18s and 19s. It does seem like they're aiming after the Porsches, Corvettes, et cetera, like the Canyon Carver crowd. Yeah, because they were naming off the tires that were really proud of covering the percentage of it. It was like Audi, Porsche, Corvette, Viper, BMW. Which makes some sense if you've got the track day crowd slash spirited back roads crowd.
a lot of that is probably in the 18-inch, 19-inch size. Yep. I was a little bit disappointed in the lack of a 255 18-inch because it's a super popular-sized tire in our street class and our street mod class. I was also disappointed in the fact that it's only a 205 and a 225 15-inch. In the 15s, yeah. Because for some reason or other, 245s, generally in the 15-inch, are the most popular Turing Cup tire for us. Like, by a lot. Right. Like, by 50%. Yeah, anytime you're talking about, like, for us, it would be 200 and above. Most people are going to want to get to...
225 or bigger, you know, for the 15s. But like a 45-15 is like now a popular tire. Yeah. The amount of 15 by 9 wheels that are out there. Yeah. But yeah, there's a lot of tires in the wider 15 inch. And Miatas are still popular.
The 23-inch tall tire is still a thing. Yes, it is. Now, I'm a weird one because I'm like, where are the 225-50-15? Because I have a Datsun Z that I want to start with. I recently did a tire test for Toyo back-to-back with my car to make sure that I wanted to allow the R888 into Touring Cup. And I opted for the slightly taller ones, 225-50-15. Right. Dude, it looks so good.
A little extra sidewall, right? Yeah. Isn't it weird how we've gone from like the we want the small profile to now we want some meat on the side there a little bit? Yeah, it looks so good. I actually ordered batteries from room service, oddly enough. I don't think you ordered from room service. You went and asked for batteries, and they called maintenance, and we're going to deliver you batteries. I'm worried about it now, because I charged up some batteries, and they're still holding. But yeah, big, chonky tires. I got my phones inside. I'll pull a picture before you leave. It looks so cool. I put them on four-spoke axis wheels. The old Alenso. On the EF? Yeah. Oh, yeah, I did. Oh, yeah. And they're black. Black side moldings, black bumpers. Yeah. It's so great. But also road.
Nice. On the way to and from. Oh, yeah. It's a benefit. The license plate, had insurance, road dirty. It was so fun. I was at a time attack event out here at West with actually an on-grid group. And there was a guy there running 15 by 9 wheels on his Integra. And he had the 225, 50, 15 yokes. Yeah. And I was like, that's it. That's the exact look I need for this. Because that's the perfect. What year is it? 72. I had a 71 for a while. No kidding. I never built it. I had it.
My brother had a 71. He never built it. He had it. It's one of those cars that got away from me. Yeah, my first Z got away from me. I had a 74, early 260 with the thin bumpers. And it needed way more than I was even close to being able to comprehend how to do. They're such simple cars, but they're intimidating projects. They tend to need a lot. Yeah, and they all need either a full resto or a, I'm going to work on this every day. Right. What's all done to your Z? So at this point, it's still the original motor, but...
The head's just been cleaned up and everything. Triple Webbers, everything polished. Side drive. Yep. Side drive. So 40 DCOE header. Five-speed swapped in with lightweight. Flywheel, heavy duty clutch. Obviously different exhaust. And then Kony race the 8611s, if I remember correctly. Ground control cold overs. Everything cut. So proper height. Continue to travel.
And that's about it right now. I've got technotoy tuning, lower control arms to put on the car yet. I need to do the diff at some point to put in at least a 3.9 or a 4.11 just to go with the 5-speed. But it is... There's something about a straight six sound, especially carburetor like that with the side draft. It's just intoxicating. It's just a visual experience. It's not fast. It's not slow, though. No, it's not slow either. It's just it's engaging. It'll never be a car I want to compete with, but it's a car that I want to be able to just drive. What's the interior and stuff like that? The dash has a couple of cracks in it. That's to be expected. But the seats are perfect. The rest of the interior is OEM-ish. Oh, it's pretty much all OEM.
I'm just trying to visualize. Yeah, it's still got the original wood steering wheel. I will never get rid of the wood. If I do a different steering wheel, it's going to be the Nardi with the wood. I don't want to go thicker. I want to keep that thin. It's just, to me, that's part of that experience. If I'm going to drive a car that's that age and it's going to drive like that, I want to drive that. This is the funny part. The car has been painted three times. No, sorry, twice.
What did it start out as? What did it middle as? What did it finish as? What it started out as one of the coolest colors that ever came in, but was not popular at the time. It was a one-year-only color. It's that lime yellow color. Oh, yeah, yeah. 112 was the code. It's just a gorgeous color. The guy who bought the car almost immediately painted it white. So it was white. And then the guy I got the car from, it was originally from the Pacific Northwest. That's the funny thing. I'm actually taking it home now. The kid that brought it to Omaha, where I got it.
I wanted to paint it kind of a gunmetal gray with a satin clear, and somehow the gray came out light, and you put the satin clear on it, and if it's not getting hit by the sunlight where you can tell it's satin, it just looks primer. Really? I get asked. So you have a fake primer car? It's a fake primer car, and I've just started driving again. It's been since basically 2017 for reasons, and I got asked more often than not when I was going to paint the car, when I drove the car. And now that cement is like a color and all those grays, I'm hoping I get asked less. So it's a cool color. It really is, but it's...
The car deserves to be that green-yellow color again. It's just such a good color. I don't know if I've ever seen one of those in real life. That's it. I haven't either. I've seen them in pictures. It's a one-year-only color? Yeah, it's a one-year-only color, and from my understanding, sunlight looks a little more yellow, and fluorescent light looks a little bit more green. I just imagine it looking like, you know, what...
Dodge and Jeep have that kind of yellowish-green kind of color. I think that would just look killer on that car. How's the body on? Oh, that's the thing. It's from the Pacific Northwest. Perfect. There's no rust. There's a little bit. There's a quarter-sized thing that I've got to deal with on the frame rail behind the driver's side front wheel. But other than that. That doesn't sound bad. Yeah. Either they've bonded it really well or. I think an average first Gen Z enthusiast would be like, that's not even something to deal with. Exactly. That's like, we're going to do that at lunch. Right. That's not even a problem. The battery tray is perfect. Really? Yeah. The Pacific Northwest is.
is the place that time forgot when it comes to rest if you want to find a rest free version of anything you go there i remember i helped a friend move from omaha but that's the thing there's no salt yeah so it didn't matter if it was yeah um well they don't put any salt down well it does freeze it does snow but they just didn't use salt because the salmon and everything like that they were very conscientious of the environment but i helped a friend move out um gosh early teens and he had been telling me like oh yeah all these cars out there there's no rest there's no rest i was like whatever no way and i remember driving and this will this will get your attention 87 crx or sorry 87 civic si Perfect. They all rusted up. A8 Toyota pickups. Perfect. All rusted up. These are rust-free examples. Yeah, and these were meant. These were just perfect condition cars. Like, how does this exist? I'm still convinced that I should be gathering cars from there and shipping them to the Midwest. You'd probably make money. Like, the first-gen CRX, third-gen Civic, like that gen. Yeah. Like, that car was rusty.
In like 94. Right. Like they just died. Yeah. It was just not rust proof. It was thin. Like it wasn't designed for longevity. And to give you an idea of what it's like is. So I have my Indy Miata. That I've had since 2019. Drove around Omaha. In the winters. Took it. Have it out in Seattle. Took it to a mechanic friend. Chase Race. Doug Chase that owns it.
to have him do some alignment stuff and whatnot. And he's working on the tie rods. He's like, ah, typical Nebraska rust. And there's just like surface rust. And like they were a little seized, just a little seized. And I replaced them with brand new pieces. Like that's more like a Pacific Northwest car. That's the quality. Like everything is that, like bolts just turn. You don't even need to spray them with stuff. You just turn bolts. It's insane. So I, I think I told you at dinner that I bought an 07F250. Yeah. I'm swapping. I'm most of the way through swapping. 7.3 Godzilla swap.
For those who don't know, what's the Godzilla swap? It's like the 2019 plus big block Ford V8 7.3 liter. It comes with the modern trans. There's a company in a couple companies in Detroit that like they buy chassis for Vintags and like put electric motors in and then sell the gasser engine with zero miles for like decent money. So you can buy a full swap with wiring and an ECU. So that's what I bought and I'm putting it in this thing. Funny thing is like I had this thing mocked up in place of the six liter power stroke diesel.
like sitting on wood blocks on the cross member. Spent like two, three hours getting it roughed in place. Driveshaft's laying on the ground. Trans is supported by a floor jack. And I'm looking at the output shaft of the trans. I'm like, it's really similar to the diesel one, right? And I grabbed the diesel driveshaft. I had the first half of the 7.3 Godzilla driveshaft. And I looked at it on the diesel. And compared to the diesel driveshaft, I'm like, that's the same flange. Picked it up. It's where I thought it should be. Nice. It's where I thought it should be. And I'm like, wow, that's picked up the driveshaft.
It's within one eighth of an inch. It bolts right in place. No way. It was amazing. That's awesome. Tell people about the truck you bought, the body. Where'd you get it? I bought it from Colorado. It was an Air Force Academy truck that had never been driven on the highway. So that's what made me think of it. So you're saying Pacific Northwest vehicles are perfect. Right. This thing, have you ever seen, you've seen a pickup truck frame. It looks like rust. Right, yeah. It's brown. It's just brown with rust. It's silver. Oh, wow. I've never seen one like this. No. The frame is silver. It's not rusty at all.
Usually just sitting out and having air touch it. Yeah, exactly. It's the cleanest chassis I've ever seen. And that's why I bought it. Yeah. I wanted a two-wheel drive quad cab eight-foot bed as my next, like, tow rig slash work truck. How long is that then? Is that, like, 30 feet long? It's a big truck. They're, like, 26 feet long. Jeez. But I debated whether to do another Cummins swap because my current, like, work tow pit. I'm surprised you didn't go diesel. I have another Cummins, too, but I debated whether to do it. And sometimes I'm still kicking myself because that would be so simple, you know, because they're mechanically injected. There's, like, no wiring, just gauges. But hopefully this will be a cool truck. I'm looking forward to it.
But yeah, rust-free is not a thing by me. Like in Chicago? No. No, everything's dead. Right. Four years in, you can't work on a car. Right. Nebraska's the same. It's the Midwest. Get hit with the snow and throw the salt out and drive around it for three months a year, and then it just gets bad after four or five years.
What other kind of cars do you play with right now? You got ND. You got the ND. You got the Z. You got the ND down at a Hurtland event where you helped instruct a few years ago. Yeah, yeah. I was down there. I think that was the same one because I've had two. I've had the ND1 and now I have the ND2. I didn't know they changed generation on those. It was, yeah, 16 to 18 was the 255 horsepower. Sorry, 155 horsepower motor. Got a little aggressive there. And then in 19, they came out with a updated motor that made 181. Really? Yeah. That's a big difference. Yeah, it was a big difference. Yeah, same basic motor. They just...
I can't remember if it was the bottom end or the top end that cleaned up a little bit. I did not know they did that. But yeah, it's a substantially different car. But yeah, I can't remember which one. I think it was the 19 that I had at that point when I helped out with the Topeka event. But yeah, I've had that for a minute. And then the 1990 BMW E30, the 325i. Great chassis. I've only driven one.
And I immediately fell in love with it. It's the interesting thing. So, like, we both come from a world where we play with EFs. You actually still have one. I've had a COX. I don't have one anymore. But I've raced many EFs. The thing that the EF and the E30 have always shared in common, and this is a hot topic of debate with some people, is they're both referred to as God's Chariot. Yeah, they are. And for very specific reasons, I think an E30 feels like...
A playful, boxy version of a Miata. Yeah. Tougher. Tougher. Like a Miata you can like... Heavier. It's a Miata you can like bring home to mom. Right. Or you can bring to the farm and she'll get it done. Yeah, yeah. The one that I drove was the K-Swap prototype. I got a K-Swap version. And I mean, yeah, plenty of power. But like the chassis itself was just basic. It was like refreshed bushings, decent brakes, like Coney's and like lowering springs or something. Like really basic. And I drove around Gingerman for like 20 minutes.
I mean, it just never stopped making a smile. Power on oversteer. Wasn't pushy. Wasn't twitchy. Super neutral, but not in any of the bad ways. Usually when somebody describes a car as neutral, they're just saying, yeah, it kind of sucks, but it's good enough for me to drive. This thing, you could flog it hard, and it would oversteer, and you'd catch it. Super catchable. Or you could drive it mediocre, but it wouldn't push. It didn't do anything dumb. It was just playful, but safe. Yeah, it wanted to have the shit kicked out of it. Really cool chassis. I was super blown away. Maybe I want to build one, actually. No, I've driven a couple that were...
track capable yeah um with good suspensions on them and they're just a heartbreakers because people don't expect that chasing them down some of its parts like yeah it was like engine mounts a hall tech a stock jdm k24 an adapter plate and like that was it it should not have been this good like this is something that you'd like it could be your last track car that's how good it was um yeah that's the only bmw experience i have actually really yeah it's the only one huh the other the other pmw experience i have is it's not a bmw but it did have a bmw zf trans Did you ever see any of our live streams where there was a S10 pickup truck running around in GLTC? No. So we had an S10 pickup truck from Rudz Racing, DJ Radzinski. Pretty big shop in Chicago. They do a ton of work. A lot of tuning and stuff. I just had a good battle with one of his dudes, Jose, actually at Audubon. Which, by the way, glad you got to drive again. I had so much fun driving. But not a good battle, but I almost crashed into him, and I had a heroic save more than anything. But yeah, super fun. DJ bought an S10.
and did it in the old school NASCAR Mellow Yellow Green and Black livery. It was so sick. Slammed to the ground. K-Swap. BMW ZF 5-speed out of an E36. That trans, you'd think, oh, it's a BMW trans, should be great. Kind of a truck transmission. It kind of drives a little trucky, especially when you put a big, long shifter on it.
weirdest part rear suspension ripped out c4 corvette independent rear suspension in the back might have been the fatal flaw but dope car oh yeah whatever um so he he campaigned this the last couple years in touring cup like pretty much was everybody's like he was the people's champ yeah but the car truck whatever i mean it fought him every step of the way uh he tried all the different cameras and all the different rear setups and like things would break and you couldn't find the fix and this like it was just never ended but i drove it last year at a honda meet event um and it was so i mean it was like a joy it was like one of those cars i've described my old crx my old stl ita crx as like just it was a vehicle that wanted to be a race car yeah like it just until it got wrecked which i got wrecked with the next owner i should have never sold it i mean that car just wanted to just have the shit kicked out it wanted to have fun it was enjoying it you know and it just felt like this s10 had like found the second life and it's like
It lived the duty of the hauler. Day five. No one realizes I'm not an SD 1000. It got reborn as a race car. It was so cool, dude. So I'm starting to think, do we need to bring back mini truck racing? Remember that? Remember that? With the hard bodies and all that stuff back in the day? Dylan and all that stuff? That's 10% of my group chat pictures in one of my group chats. That was such a legendary, strange time. So this is what I'm seeing. I'm seeing grid life, bringing back the mini truck. And then I told it, hey, I'm going to bring... Do you know what a dodgy bond is? Oh, yeah. So I want to start a dodgy bond racing thing in the United States. And I'm going to call it...
Only vans. Okay. That's the way to get it. Yeah, you're going to get brand recognition with that. Yeah, the slammed on custom Panasports Dodge vans from, like, 1994. And if you're going to tow your van there, you have to tow it with a van. Yeah. I mean, it's only vans. Only vans, dude. You know how that all started, right? Yeah, go-karting. Yeah, go-karts and motorcycle guys from Japan. And then they started racing the vans. They started racing the vans when they were screwing around. But, like, slammed vans on, like, custom offset Panasports? Dude. How cool are those? Yeah.
Like, how sick is that? They look so good. Nothing like a lean burn 318 for power. I've got a Hot Wheel. I've got the T-shirt. I'm big in on the Dodge Bond thing. One of my better friends when I was a kid, we were like in fourth grade, you know, he was in 5,004. His mom had a conversion van of that era, a Dodge one. And then later, my aunt bought one. And I've always had an affinity for that snub-nosed Dodge van. It didn't have as much of a snout as the Ford. Right, yeah, yeah. The shabbing the Dodges looked better. Yeah.
I think the Dodge looks cleaner than the Chevy. Yeah, especially with the flesh lights. The flesh headlights. I thought you said flesh lights. I said only vans. Yeah, only vans, sorry. But the Ford, you know, had that protruding snout until like 96. Once you get there, then it's okay. But like, yeah, the Chevy and the Dodge are pretty good looking vans. For vans. Right. And my mom had an 86 Chevy conversion van. That was what I grew up in.
Like, I mean, the seats, they had to have been 30 inches wide. Were they velour? Yeah, like velvet, obviously, like a maroon velvet. We had the Aerostar, done by Van House. Oh, Van H-A-U-S? Yeah, and it had the little running lights across the ceiling. My dad had a 91 Aerostar. XLT extended back with the 4-liter tow package. And that was my first vehicle ever. It was not a fancy conversion van. It was ultra-rusty.
Yeah, that makes sense. Later, like, I drove it for almost a year, and then the trans at 191,000 miles decided she had enough. That's shocking, at 191,000 miles. We probably never changed the fluid. Like, ever. I bet my dad never changed it. But, like, I mourned, like, actually mourned for that van. I think it was so, it was a great vehicle. Yeah. Like, great vehicle.
Yeah, the path that stupid cars take you. Now we're sitting in Palm Springs. Pretty bizarre. It is very bizarre. How's things in SECA time trial land? We haven't talked about that at all. Good, actually. We're getting ready for Time Trial Nationals coming up here at the end of October. Is it really that late in the year? Yeah, this year. It's a little bit later than it typically has been.
Because, you know, there was a while that it was in the fall. We moved it into more of the spring to get away from championship events and that kind of thing. They didn't really seem to catch. We moved it back to fall. Last year was a little bit earlier. This year, it's the way it's all worked out. It's a little closer to Halloween, so we're going to lean in on that a little bit and have some fun with that. What's the daylight hours? We'll be all right. It's a pretty busy event. Yeah, we're...
pushing 190 entries right now. So we're getting full. And I've got people that are telling me they're signing up and I keep telling people I might want to get on it because we will have a cap. But for on-track stuff, I think we'll be fine with for daylight. It's the, after our stuff, there's some stuff I want to get done and have some fun that hopefully we'll have light for. I miss that facility. Zach from NCM. Zach Rakovan's a good dude. He emailed me like a week ago and said, hey, call me ASAP. And then I said, what time is good for you? He hasn't emailed me back because I haven't called him ASAP. I probably should. Just made me think of this. I want to get a hold of him. But yeah, no.
Yeah, we're going to have TTN, four-day event again this year, Ultimate Track Car Challenge, which GRM is going to be back this year. They're going to run Thursday and Friday. We have some really cool cars coming in with them. We've got some Radicals that are going to be running that. And we have some legit fast cars. I mean, we've had some legit fast cars the last few years, but Steve Luca is going to be back with his Mustang. Dassault is going to be showing up with Camaro. Peachy is throwing Hoosiers on his Corvette. Man, that was a wild day, dude.
That was an awesome day. That was really fun. We ran out of batteries last night, so I don't quite know because I don't have my computer with an adapter where we stopped, but I think we went for like 45 minutes. Was it that long? Yeah, it was at least 45 minutes. Time flies when I'm talking with you, Adam. I lose all track of time. Maybe you're just dying to leave. So today we were at Thermal Club. Beautiful facility. No, yeah, the facility was absolutely incredible. Yeah, and we didn't even see all of it. We got to see only a portion of it. We saw like the 1.8 mile track. You want to water or anything? Yeah, I'll take water. Let me grab it.
The 1.8 mile-ish track, I think he said. And it was wrapped over on itself a bunch. Yeah, basically like a big tuning fork, almost, if you think about it, in shape. Fun track, though. It was no real fast high-speed sweepers. It was mostly straightaways and shutdown. But that section from...
Walking backwards, where the pit entry was, walking backwards around. That was such a fun section. So we're at the Hoosier test, and then this morning, Tyra accidentally, I think, accidentally on purpose maybe, early released it. Oh, did they? You didn't know that? No, I didn't know the early release. I know they sold out of a size or two. Dude, I got so many messages before 9 a.m. They put it up at 7.20 there, and 9 a.m. here is like three hours later. Right. I mean, the GLTC chat had like 700 messages.
So we're testing the new 200 Treadwear Hoosier. What's it called? The Trek Attack? The Trek Attack Pro. Trek Attack Pro. But we drove M4s first after some classroom. They gave us helmets? No.
Oh, yeah, they gave us helmets. Sorry. They gave us like brand new actually painted Simpson helmets. No, I'm pretty sure they're wrapped. Mine smells like paint. Really? Because it looked like... It looked like there's some embossing from where the stickers were. There is. I think the stickers are clear-coated over. They're pretty wrapped. Not even a new helmet if it's an SA 2020. It is. Save me a couple hundred bucks. And Simpson fits my big, oblong head. I love how it fits. It fit my head nice, too.
which was super generous of them. We were at the BMW school, effectively. Yeah. BMW experience school. Huge, huge autocross, like dedicated autocross course, like mini road course. I would call it, it's almost like a big shifter cart track with multiple layouts. Almost like a, also like a police training facility. It's like, it's like your typical like five acre big track. But yeah. I mean, five acre small track. Yeah.
But we went out, we were in group one. So we were the first ones out on the big course in the M4s. Tigers were pretty good. It was weird to be, they wanted windows up, no helmets. That was so weird. We were lead follow, and a couple laps in, our instructors kind of went for it a little bit, I think. They could sense that we weren't struggling. Yeah. Those cars are unbelievable. Out of the box, an M4 and an M3 is so good. Yeah, I mean, they asked us, well, they didn't ask us. They required us to keep the DSC on. But the cars were still very easy to drive. I mean, you could tell there's some weight, but like you said, the...
The cars kind of shrink around you. Yeah, it was felt a lot smaller. It's literally double the way to my race car. I drove my race car two days ago and like it didn't feel it's not nearly as nimble, but they're just sharp and planted. And it was it was easy to drive fast. So we didn't get a comparison on the big track. And then we got to drive GT four cars on these tires. How rad was that? It was the freaking coolest thing. OK, you got you guys. What's your favorite part of the GT four? So they were showing us around the car and this is like these are brand new GT four cars. They had five of them. And the coolest thing is.
There's like a T-handle you pull on the left when you sit down, and the floor mount pedal box can literally slide 12 inches front and back. It's so sick. So good. It's so good. I want one on my street car. I know. I immediately thought, shit, I should have done that in my car. The explanation, it makes so much sense, and it's so brilliant, is when you put the seat in, you want to keep that weight in that spot, right? Because that weight's always going to be there. And so if you're double driving in an IMSA or an SRO or an Enduro, yeah, it makes all the sense in the world. Pull a big, huge carbon lever, and the steering column can move kind of a six-inch direction, any direction up and down. Telescope, everything. The weirdest part was it's an actual Fanatec.
wheel. That was crazy. It's a sim wheel. It's the same wheel as a sim wheel. It's the highest end one. We just use it. That was super cool. Do you know that was my first time driving a car with a non-circular steering wheel? Yeah, mine too. I didn't think anything of it. And I'm a shovel steer person. This is like a wing wheel. You have to hold on. The craziest part was, did you turn all the way?
Never needed you got I mean like in the oh yeah to pull out I had you got like half a lock and half a turn it's and that's it you get a 180 and it's it that's it like there's no you can't go 270 right you get 180 and it stops and that's that that's I like that I mean it didn't it felt like super felt so perfect yeah like everything about the car was like wow nothing's caught that's what happens when you know what the fuck really cool the tires pretty similar to like pretty similar to a DLT slick on track it felt pretty like They were almost like you couldn't hear them versus like a Falcon. They yell at you. The AO52 doesn't talk that much, but it does. I never really get the AO52s. They don't talk a lot. They don't scream a lot. I would say the tires I've driven, they remind me most of the AO52 in driving style. Yeah, for sure. They like a little slip angle. They're very progressive. You can definitely tell it's a Hoosier. If you've driven on R6s, it's about a click back. I would say if it's like a minute 30 track, it's probably a second. It's like half a second or a second. That's just my best guess. And then we played on...
We did the speed stop thing. Yeah, the speed stop thing was weird. I don't ever break the brake hard enough. I sucked at pushing the brake pedal hard enough. Was that in M3s? I think it was M3s. We drove M2, M3, and M4. We drove the M3 the most. The M3 is the two-door, right? No, that's a four-door. We drove the M2 in the slalom. Yeah, that's the only time we drove the non-M3 or M4 variant. But I think they were all two-doors, weren't they? No, I think. You're right. You want to track those four-doors. You're right.
I don't know anything about people. So yeah, we drove the M3s on track. We're like talking like kiddie schoolgirls, by the way. Gosh dang, Hoosier did a great job. They did. For their first product release party type thing, they knocked out of the party. It was so well organized. They did a great job. The swag was out of control. Yeah, it was. Yeah, they did a great job.
But going back to the stop box thing, I was able to just, I was like, fine, I'm just going to hammer the brakes. But that's not my braking style. What was the other tire? The Hoosier and then? Oh, it was the Michelin. Yeah. That's the first time we got to compare tires. The Cup 2R chattered a whole lot more. Yeah, and it was 10, 15 feet short. Didn't want to turn while under full braking, which I don't fault the tire for. The Hoosier did. Yeah, the Hoosier was pretty good. I mean, asking a tire to give you 100% braking and turn. So we were supposed to basically stop in what, like 50 feet?
from 50 miles an hour. And then there was cones and a hard left if you couldn't stop. Basically like the cones were a simulated semi-truck. And the Hoosier could literally stop at, it could stop from 50. At an angle. You didn't even make it in the full lane. I had one time where I pushed it so hard and I didn't have to turn. One time. And I was right at like 51 or 49. That was the hardest part for me. It was like watching the speedometer and then looking for the cones at the same time. I carried over 55 in a couple of times. That's where I had to make a full lane change whether I was on the Hoosier or not. But I wanted to like, okay, here's 50. They can't tell I'm going. Tire breaks in a straight line really, really well. Yeah.
feels a lot like an R7 in a lot of aspects. The tire really excels in that braking performance. They talked a lot about it, and they went wrong. Big, wide center block really keeps the car going straight. Very impressive. The tire is downright impressive. And the data they gave us last night on the release dates, there's only eight tires available right now, and it's all big stuff, like Porsche, Camaro. Yeah, 18s and 19s. And then there's 121 available. OK.
I think that's coming out later. Yeah, it's coming out later. There's 18s and 19s. But they are planning on some 15-inch stuff, which I would be excited to maybe try that in the future to see how different it is. Because big tires versus small tires, when you've got more meat and stuff, I wonder how it's going to behave. Right. More sidewall. Yeah, more sidewall, lighter car. The back-to-back stuff on the mini road course and the slalom was pretty telling. If that translates to small tires, it's just going to be good everywhere. The thing is, it felt like it had really good lateral grip. Very comparable to Yoke. Very comparable to the RE70.
one really comparable on the course. I think while it was on par with those in those two areas, it had a little bit extra when it came to breaking for DSL XL. Yeah, especially on slow speed stuff. And we're also here as well. He's testing something. Yeah. And I'm curious, is this a competitor for those tires or is this competitor for the Supercar 3R? Yeah, because he made that point. It's really interesting to see lap times and performance between those two because this I mean, it's a five three second tire. So is three are. So this isn't.
playing fair when it comes to Yokohamas and the REs, and obviously affects my program a little bit. Yeah, Tom Tarasso. But... you know, it seems more comparable with that Goodyear Supercar 3R. So that would be a question is, how do those two play together? And is this one of those tires versus is this a Yoke and RE71? That's where I really wonder how it's going to be in the 17 and 15-inch stuff. Yep, same. Because that's where you don't really see much in the 3R. And that's the other thing is the cars we're driving today, they don't have a lot of camber. No, they were like OEM lines back. And the Yoke wants camber. I was really shocked how. They told us they were aiming for kind of a middle ground where these would work on cars without camber, but they would also benefit from having camber. The tire wear, we got in the small track slash autocross. It was like, you were pushing the car pretty hard. We got in it at...
We're second class in the day. And I turned all the afterwards. I turned all the week. And this is like you'd lap for like five minutes at a time. Tires were getting abused. Oh, they've been abused. Probably two thirds. It was insane. Two thirds of the people that were here are not dedicated track people. They're not idiots like us.
I was really surprised how badly the Michelins wore, especially on the outside front right. And I was really surprised how evenly and similarly the Yokohamas and the Hoosiers wore. Yeah, they were. Because they were all brand new this morning. Did you get a chance to look at the tires that were on the M4s on big track? I did not. I got to look at the ones we, I went back and looked at the ones that we were running on the small track. I did not get to look at the ones. The small track ones were pretty interesting. But I thought they would wear more, the Hoosiers. Yeah, and the other thing that was interesting, very telling, is.
size discrepancy so we all know yolks run pretty wide and you took some from above pictures yeah and the yolks were very square um 275 and i can't remember what the width on the wheel was whereas both the michelin and the hoosier were stretched were fairly stretched in the same exact size so i think the hoosier runs more true to size yeah in like the typical for the race tire in the three yeah it's literally different from hoosiers yeah in like the three inches of exposed straight or whatever it was about a quarter inch tip versus the yolks like stood straight up yeah so yeah they might run a little narrower but i was shocked how similarly they drove i drove I drove the yoke once and then jumped right into the Hoosier after I ran the Hoosier, and I almost couldn't tell the difference. I would say, as someone who likes to drive with some slip angle, they're very similar to the yoke in that regard. I will say that they fixed one of the problems with the yoke, or I shouldn't say problem, but one of the things that people complain about is not nearly as big. That turn in response, that kind of stuff was on point. I mean, it was crisp. Yeah, pretty impressive tire. And light, too. Yeah, they touted the lightness thing a lot. Yeah, 27 to 25% lighter, he said, I think. Something like that, yeah. I've got all the notes written down, but it's buried in the back. Pretty wild. Fun day. Yeah, got to definitely say thanks to Hoosier. Yeah, I mean, everything. This was...
Evidently no expense spared. Let's throw a party. Let's do this right. I thought we were going to La Quinta. We are at, like, not a La Quinta. This is, like, a resort the size of a town with 41 pools. And the food last night was next level. I mean, if you're going to send us to Thermal. I mean, you've got to put us up somewhere. I couldn't believe how cool that place was. That was super rad. And also, props to BMW Performance for having their instructors there. And also, you know, when we were on the big track, and even when we were on the big track with the GT4 and the regular cars, we had a lead.
We had an instructor in front of the car, and the fact that they were able to read how we were doing and go, okay, we're going to give you more legs. We're going to let you run now. In fact, the guy that we had for our GT4s, the guy out of the car just giggling, he's like, you guys are so much fun. He's like, you guys, I asked him to set my tires at 32, set them so they'd get to 32 hot. I came off the track and they were almost 40. He's like, I was doing everything I could to push the car harder, because they were just in stock, M3 competitions with the Conti's on it. They were M4s. Yeah, M4s, yeah. But those things were faster. The GT4 cars were detuned. Yeah, exactly. But good grief for those GT4 cars, really good. They were like 600 pounds lighter.
The braking was out of control. Like ABS, but four mount pedal boxes and giant APs. I think they're APs. They're APs, yeah. But a little bit bigger tires, I think. But smaller diameter, 18s. Oh, yeah, yeah. So we're in the same group, but they had two instructors, so they did three cars and two cars. I thought I had you with me. No, I happen to be. You jumped in with Zach. I happen to be the lead and then Zach Klappman from Smoking Tire. I was not lead, but I was the first of the two of us. And our instructor, they came in, I think, after the second time we went out.
He had burned his brakes off because I was smelling nothing but brakes. I was like, somebody burned their brakes off. He's like, yeah, it always smells like that around here. He got on the radio at one point, and he says, if you want to really stretch it out, if you want to do your own thing, you can back off if you want. And I was like, I raced on Sunday. I'm having a really good time. He's like, let's go. Yeah, when we came into pits and they checked our tire pressure and everything, he came around and was like, listen.
back off all you want in the straight and come up to me and make some runs. I'm good with you guys doing that. And unfortunately, I mean, it was our group of three cars, your group of two cars, and then another group of regular cars. And they were like mixing and matching them. On a 1.8 mile track. So there wasn't a lot of place. I didn't want to back off too much because I didn't want to hold another group up. Those M4s were really fast in the straight line. I was stunned. Got up and go. Dude, I've never driven new cars like this. Like, I've just never done it. It was a game changer of a day, man. It's not me. Making old AJ want to make bad decisions.
But the other GT4, I mean, I'll never forget that. That was so cool. I'm buying new shoes because the shoes that they gave us, it was the best fitting shoe ever. They asked for all of our sizes. My suit was perfect. Mine was a little tight, but I'll take that. It was so fun. It was really cool being the first ones out in the GT4s, too. I was a little disappointed at first, but I was like, you know what? No, no, this is good. Well, we're going out on stickers, and it didn't feel like there was any mold release weirdness. We did three laps behind him, and we'd already driven the track, so I had a pretty decent idea where the track went. Yeah, that's great, man. Very interesting. I don't know, anybody listening, I don't know where this will end up in...
Grid life. Currently, for the end of 2024, it's a 200 trailer tire, and there's a bunch of classes where this is legal. For you guys. For us. So I already know that we're going to see some at Laguna, because I know somebody from here, Rob Dom, is competing at Laguna, and he's literally going home with a set. He already bought a set from here for his three rotor. But I know there's others that have bought them already for Laguna. But right now, the only sizes available are like the 265-18, 275-18, both 35s, the 295-30-18, the 315-30-18, and then some 19s, like a 265-285.
305 and 325 did you get a did you get a pickup because they gave the when the other tires are coming out i took a snap yeah that's what this is here yeah the like the 225 45 15 isn't coming out to the end of next year like next year q4 of 25 q4 of 24. i thought that was okay i i think i misread it i think they need to uh that's a slow roll i think that yeah like 46 sizes but like it's over the next 24 months or 13 months like that and that's yeah Yeah, interesting. But they are hitting the big tire market hard early, which is a good thing because a lot of the big tires struggle to find tires. I think they're going after. Cars that need big tires. They're going after the customers at Thermal and Autobahn. I think they're going after Canyon Carvers. Yeah. Like C8s. Yeah. Like 911s. GT3s. All the big tire cars. I suspect that somebody's going to win at Laguna on these tires in some class. But I don't think it's a dominator. I think if you picked an already dominant driver and you put them on this.
they're still going to dominate. But if you pick the P6, like half a second or a second off driver, and you put them on these, I don't think it changes a whole lot. I mean, I think it'll get you a quarter of a second. But if you're talking to one second delta, you're not going to win. It's not a two second delta tire, I don't think. No, no, I don't think it's that big of a delta. I do think it's a...
If you're looking for that last half second, maybe a second, maybe it might get you there. The thing is, I'll just say this to wrap up my side is the thing I like most about the tire is that it drives a little slip angle, but it's very progressive in its breakaway. It's so easy to drive both at the limit and over the limit because it's so easy to reel back in. The GT4 cars, they only had stability control for like forward traction and it would only really kick in if I got on the rumbles. You could get the car sideways. You could run it pretty hard. And yeah, it was so drivable. It was so drivable. And I'm not like a super big rear-wheel drive guy, but I mean, I don't know if I've ever felt comfortable in a car that fast. Yeah. That quickly and a car that is that fast. And that speaks to that. I was comfortable very quickly, but that's my wheelhouse is rear-wheel drive and that kind of thing. It's an impressive tire, though. Anyway, well, maybe we'll do another show if we can wrangle a drunk Andy Hollis over here tonight. I forgot that would be hilarious. We got a gaggle of really interesting personalities here. Like, I didn't know the tire-tested guy. Like, I've seen his stuff. He is so good. Yeah. As a driver and as a data point. Right. Wow.
Good. Dude, there's so many good drivers here. Yeah. In our group, it was like all great drivers. I mean, I was probably the worst driver. No, no. I know who it was. I'm not going to name them. No. You hit every cone in the slaw very often. I did eventually. Across the accumulation. You were very, very good on the track stuff. That was a big car. I'm used to little cars. You were at home on track. You did just fine. I was really glad that I raced last weekend because I think I would have had a lot of trepidation had I not been three cars wide at all about every turn like five days, four days ago. But yeah. Bonus, less smoke this time. Definitely less smoke. I forgot what we talked about last night.
Anyway, we should probably go find Andy Hollis, get a drink, eat some food, and then maybe grab Gears and Gasoline Ben or Andy or both or something. We'll see if I can do another podcast. Jumpstart the podcast again. We've had a month off. Let's make it three. Let's go. Let's do it again. All right, buddy. Thanks to Hoosier Tire and thanks to this amazing resort and BMW Club Thermal. It was so fun.
Where do people find out about SCCA things? Timetrials.scca.com. You say that with so much of a question mark. It's saved in my browser, man. I don't know. Or just scca.com. Yeah, and Timetrials National is coming up. If you're even halfway interested, get signed up. It's going fast. Looks like a really fun event. It's going to have some really good battles going on. And it probably won't be the surface of the sun hot. No. Didn't you guys have a 102 degree day one time? Yeah, I was running track sprint out there, and I think I melted. That's how you lose the bottom of your shoes. Yeah, exactly. Standing in Kentucky sun at 102 degrees on a black asphalt. But no, it should be an awesome standoff for NCM as we make our way to a new location next year. All right, we'll talk to you soon.
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