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EPISODE · Jan 20, 2026 · 34 MIN

Advancing Decarbonization in Hard-to-Abate Sectors | ESG Decoded Podcast #183

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In this episode, Erika Schiller talks with Andre de Fontaine, Managing Director at the Center for Green Market Activation (GMA), and David Prieto, ClimeCo’s VP of Sustainability Advisory, about how market mechanisms are accelerating decarbonization in hard-to-abate sectors. Andre explains how book-and-claim systems and demand aggregation are enabling companies to access low-carbon fuels and materials, especially when direct procurement isn’t available. David adds insights on the strategic benefits and risk considerations of these systems.During this episode, you will learn: • Why book-and-claim models are critical for scaling green markets • How procurement signals drive new technology investment • Where additionality and registries fit in emerging climate solutions • What sectors are most impacted—and what’s next for 2026Don’t miss an episode—subscribe to ESG Decoded on your favorite podcast platform and follow us on social for the latest updates!Episode Resources: Center for Green Market Activation (GMA) - https://gmacenter.org/ Sustainable Concrete Buyers Alliance (SCoBA) - https://gmacenter.org/program/cement-concrete/ GMA | Chemicals - https://gmacenter.org/program/chemicals/ Sustainable Aviation Buyers Alliance (SABA) - https://flysaba.org/ SABA | Sustainable Aviation Buyers Alliance Launches Advanced, Next-Generation SAF Procurement - https://flysaba.org/2025/05/06/sustainable-aviation-buyers-alliance-launches-advanced-next-generation-saf-procurement/ SABA | Sustainability Framework for Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) - https://flysaba.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/SABA-SAF-Sustainability-Framework-V3-3-25.pdf SABA | Atmospheric Benefit Principle Evaluation Tool - https://flysaba.org/atmospheric-benefit-principle-evaluation-tool/ Zero Emissions Maritime Buyers Alliance - https://www.shipzemba.org/  -About ESG Decoded ESG Decoded is a podcast powered by ClimeCo to share updates related to business innovation and sustainability in a clear and actionable manner. Join Emma Cox, Erika Schiller, and Anna Stablum for thoughtful, nuanced conversations with industry leaders and subject matter experts that explore the complexities about the risks and opportunities connected to (E)nvironmental, (S)ocial and (G)overnance. We like to say that “ESG is everything that’s not on your balance sheet.” This leaves room for misunderstanding and oversimplification – two things that we’ll bust on this podcast.ESG Decoded | Resource Links Site: https://www.climeco.com/podcast-series/Apple Podcasts: https://go.climeco.com/ApplePodcastsSpotify: https://go.climeco.com/SpotifyYouTube Music: https://go.climeco.com/YouTube-MusicLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/esg-decoded/IG: https://www.instagram.com/esgdecoded/*This episode was produced by Singing Land Studio  About ClimeCoClimeCo is an award-winning leader in decarbonization, empowering global organizations with customized sustainability pathways. Our respected scientists and industry experts collaborate with companies, governments, and capital markets to develop tailored ESG and decarbonization solutions. Recognized for creating high-quality, impactful projects, ClimeCo is committed to helping clients achieve their goals, maximize environmental assets, and enhance their brand.ClimeCo | Resource LinksSite: https://climeco.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/climeco/IG: https://www.instagram.com/climeco/

In this episode, Erika Schiller talks with Andre de Fontaine, Managing Director at the Center for Green Market Activation (GMA), and David Prieto, ClimeCo’s VP of Sustainability Advisory, about how market mechanisms are accelerating decarbonization in hard-to-abate sectors. Andre explains how book-and-claim systems and demand aggregation are enabling companies to access low-carbon fuels and materials, especially when direct procurement isn’t available. David adds insights on the strategic benefits and risk considerations of these systems.During this episode, you will learn: • Why book-and-claim models are critical for scaling green markets • How procurement signals drive new technology investment • Where additionality and registries fit in emerging climate solutions • What sectors are most impacted—and what’s next for 2026Don’t miss an episode—subscribe to ESG Decoded on your favorite podcast platform and follow us on social for the latest updates!Episode Resources: Center for Green Market Activation (GMA) - https://gmacenter.org/ Sustainable Concrete Buyers Alliance (SCoBA) - https://gmacenter.org/program/cement-concrete/ GMA | Chemicals - https://gmacenter.org/program/chemicals/ Sustainable Aviation Buyers Alliance (SABA) - https://flysaba.org/ SABA | Sustainable Aviation Buyers Alliance Launches Advanced, Next-Generation SAF Procurement - https://flysaba.org/2025/05/06/sustainable-aviation-buyers-alliance-launches-advanced-next-generation-saf-procurement/ SABA | Sustainability Framework for Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) - https://flysaba.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/SABA-SAF-Sustainability-Framework-V3-3-25.pdf SABA | Atmospheric Benefit Principle Evaluation Tool - https://flysaba.org/atmospheric-benefit-principle-evaluation-tool/ Zero Emissions Maritime Buyers Alliance - https://www.shipzemba.org/  -About ESG Decoded ESG Decoded is a podcast powered by ClimeCo to share updates related to business innovation and sustainability in a clear and actionable manner. Join Emma Cox, Erika Schiller, and Anna Stablum for thoughtful, nuanced conversations with industry leaders and subject matter experts that explore the complexities about the risks and opportunities connected to (E)nvironmental, (S)ocial and (G)overnance. We like to say that “ESG is everything that’s not on your balance sheet.” This leaves room for misunderstanding and oversimplification – two things that we’ll bust on this podcast.ESG Decoded | Resource Links Site: https://www.climeco.com/podcast-series/Apple Podcasts: https://go.climeco.com/ApplePodcastsSpotify: https://go.climeco.com/SpotifyYouTube Music: https://go.climeco.com/YouTube-MusicLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/esg-decoded/IG: https://www.instagram.com/esgdecoded/*This episode was produced by Singing Land Studio  About ClimeCoClimeCo is an award-winning leader in decarbonization, empowering global organizations with customized sustainability pathways. Our respected scientists and industry experts collaborate with companies, governments, and capital markets to develop tailored ESG and decarbonization solutions. Recognized for creating high-quality, impactful projects, ClimeCo is committed to helping clients achieve their goals, maximize environmental assets, and enhance their brand.ClimeCo | Resource LinksSite: https://climeco.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/climeco/IG: https://www.instagram.com/climeco/

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