I'm on a time of night with no buzz rest inside a double you lighting up the field sit back and enjoy the bubbly We hear from John away. Hey, we don't need And hello YouTube it is now Thursday. I am John Pollack along with waiting You know nothing gets you ready for a five-hour pay-per-view than a three-hour and 25-minute go-home show Yeah, are we You know I do prefer like a three-hour three-and-a-half hour edition of dino lesion or a three-hour spectrum. Oh, Jesus super good I Guess dino lesion, but man like I don't care for either at all No, and it's not even like we can't even make the rock comparison anymore Like we are almost two years removed from the three-hour ros at this point. It's just these are there's no excuse for an overrun on top of this
like it's just I Felt exhausted by the the end of the show and I would have said that if I did not have a show to record after the fact This is like the pick me up It's not the fact that eight of you doesn't have a roster or can't book a compelling three-hour show I feel like I've seen very compelling like you know three-hour versions of this before but tonight's edition was very much front-loaded, you know and very much built as a hey the first two hours are important the third hour well You can watch it or you can not watch it if you choose to stick around Well, here's some extra wrestling. That's kind of how it felt and with I think maybe I don't know like the the amount of importance for like a television show like you're expecting a whole lot more certainly going into a Home Edition and just it I'm about that Well The Slammy Awards are also coming up this week way because that is how we will be spending Thursday on rewind away where way and I will review The Slammy Awards from 1996 on the eve of WrestleMania 12 hosted by Todd Pettenigill featuring an ungodly amount of awards handed out and all I can say is we will properly contextualize the
1996 handling of the gold desk character by Vince McMahon and Jerry Cheek-to-cheek Boy Jerry Lawler saying that That was Vince McMahon just acknowledging that yes, I am a little homophobic. Did Jerry Lawler be in the one question? Yeah, all right So I'm gonna clip a lot of gems like that. Oh, there's a lot in this particular show So we will be getting to that coming up on Thursday and then this weekend we will be back sometime Saturday night slash Sunday morning reviewing all it at some time yet We will be here most likely it'll be Sunday morning Maybe maybe osprey and moxie will end and then they'll do another hour afterwards. Maybe we'll get a sauce and maybe they'll do the tailgate Brawl at the end of the show. Oh, okay. Look at true tail
That would be when they're going to be the head maybe those run back. They'll do the pre-show Anna Pocho. Why not? Yeah, sure, but let's not waste any more time fishers Indiana at the Fishers event center No corporate overlords here in Fishers his fishers. So that's your name after the name after the city. Okay, sure
You like cool the Toronto Center. I feel like I've been there 105 according to WrestleTix not not that far off from where they were last December They were down five and a half percent from their last visit to fishers and the demand is in the back calling out Well that hangman and Brodido That everything is they are everything that's wrong with a w today The demand has brotherhood They know how swerve cannot be trusted by the new level And then we cut the Prince Nana who is with the trios champions reminding them that he brought GOA into this realm and they go through Swerve's entire history of turning on guys with the new day or at a new level I guess my aEW subscribers and they've been going back through the catalog of swerve angles They brought up GOA turning on him the toilet paper with ricochet that resulted in him adopting scissors the beatdown of bandito's friends using a steel chain on Brody King and they asked did you have any friends before we showed up?
So the idea is swerve is a terrible friend, but these guys are going out on a limb thinking they'll be the exception Yeah, I thought it was a cute little moment here, you know like getting an outsider's perspective on how I mean really ridiculous you know pro wrestling characters and storylines can sound when recapped in Quick summation like this and obviously the same goes for I'm sure the new day's history You know if like you know they sort of had that catch up with them But I just find it interesting that like you know through the new day We're still getting this sort of because they're very like yes, they're comedic But I mean in ring they are not comedic at all that's that's the difference But because they kind of have that comedic tone to them You can make these sort of jokes similar to like Captain America, you know Like opening up his book to get caught up on like everything He's missed because he's been frozen for decades, you know Like the idea that you have characters jumping in from a different universe now catching up with somebody's history that they completely missed from Like you know this existence. I find very fun and fascinating and they continue to like I think like effectively inject a good amount of Liberty into source character Kofi a few months after you lost the belt to Brock we saw you backstage and you had a bald up fist was that going anywhere?
That's that would be no man. I just had a beasting it was bothering me. He looks where was there for that was you not? Oh, yeah, right? They would have overlapped at that point So we go to the trios title match and we get tags in and out as the baby faces are working over con and then they get the heat on Austin Creed for a long period He eventually hits a side Russian leg sweep to pick on hero onto con and then takes a pounce flying over the desk by Toa And we get a doomsday device by the demand to swerve off the barricade Creed finally tags Kofi who comes off the top misses con with this Ron or whatever he was going for ricochet It's a Fosbury and then the GOA splash Kofi There's a double team slam and we get a 630 by ricochet onto Kofi swerves in for the save and as they got towards the the ending Couple of like five six minutes. It really picked up here
Toa is no selling a rolling flat liner by swerve then Creed does one no effect and finally they get him down after a tornado DDT and a 450 by swerve which ricochet breaks up with a 450 Creed then powers Toa onto his shoulders for a DVD and we get a house called the con and Kofi tries for the SOS but needs help from swerve to take Toa over and all three Pilots off of Toa retaining the belts in 1750 as they will now face Brodido and hang man on Saturday I thought this was awesome in fact I think it was my match with the night, you know ahead of them. Well the semi the second hour main event here I think new level in sort of or three for three in delivering like very strong trails matches that are worthy of I think like the AEW standard I think they're creative and design they're very well executed, but especially here. I thought man I thought GOA looked amazing especially Toa who really just he's lost a lot of weight and he looks like he's just really kind of Unlocked a lot of new potential for his ceiling as a star He's doing great as a tag team I would not want to see them do anything to affect that but to me for the first time
I got to really see the potential for him as a single star You know because I thought he looked that confident that special in a match like this I also think somebody like Creed, you know continues to feel a lot more special here He's being utilized very effectively as an underdog against somebody like a Toa, you know who again to me really still the show here I would love to see somebody like a Toa in the continental classic this year like one of those people that are not your obvious pick that are just put in there to have Different matches and put a bit of a spotlight on them and doesn't have to win all their matches could go on like a big winning streak at the beginning and then lose but Like that would be he's kind of at that level that you would expect maybe in that tournament on to I'd love to see what calling would have to offer you know hangman and Brody to come out There's fuck eyes chance and Paige congratulates them says that the trio's belts feel important on you guys And we feel they were important on us too They're happy that Kofi and Creed are here But they don't realize who they've gotten involved with and asks sort of what are you doing?
Creed says he's teaming with the greatest team in pro wrestling and making those belts the most prestigious sort of insist He's a changed man Brody reminds him It's been three weeks since you've guys have been here I don't know if you should be so trustworthy and swerve asks How many trios have abandoned you hangman mentioning the young bucks and jet speed and says two years ago in Chicago The people saw who the really the real hangman was and you and I are no different So we are renewing this uh this old rivalry on on Saturday and that they are kindred spirits that are actually the same Yeah, they really are they are they're the Batman and Joker of this universe I mean and just like that Ben and Joker I mean, you know what a brothers will be like wear that thing out Several times a year until they can grab all the money they can from it and I'm not really sick of it I mean I don't know how long it's been since we've had our last page in sort of a direction But I'm still interested especially like here in this context as a trio's battle I I mean it feels fresh, you know fresh enough in this context So I thought this was a good way to maybe continue to like put the focus on their relationship as the prime sort of like interest in this particular
Treehouse match and when Creed says something here like you know, they're trying to make these three-hose titles the top in the company I mean, you know, not that long ago I think that would have been a very laughable statement But it's still obviously very unlikely now But there is way more credibility and way more star power attached to this dreos division now than there was I think ever before in this company's history and you know This sort of this statement sort of at least gives you the impression that Tony Con is actually prioritizing this division right now, you know it is and I They have not been able to convince me that this stipulation with hangman is is a positive but at least in the short term it's really helped this trios division having like main stars involved and If he's not going to be doing a ton of big singles matches Like the trio's is a great option for someone like a Kenny Omega as well that you could you know If he's out of the title picture, but why not why not put him in it whether be a tag or trios like you you could really enhance this division by Having that so this is probably the most intrigue they built up for these belts during their existence
Renee is with Osprey speedball and Francesco Kira who is just he's now just he's part of the family He's just he's coming to Fisher's will says he saw Kira getting ambushed on collision and Bailey came to help him So he wants Bailey to join the United Empire and you know, this is a This is this is bigger than Canada potentially joining the EU. Okay, this is look at look at Mark Carney here Speedball Mark Carney working with the British and we have got our new United Empire member here We're part of the Commonwealth. We've got Fitz. We've got can con here on the left side and then England and Italy on the right I mean just a whole international flavor here in Fisher's Indiana and Speedball he just immediately joins and he got united Empire gear within like 90 minutes They asked him if he has anything green and maybe he just carries like all his gear every color with him at all times The perfect shade of green. He's not just a toothpaste factory. He's also a merchant that's factory
Oh, he's pumped it out in an hour. No, so this seems to be at least like the first official introduction of like an AEW guy into Will Osprey's a w version of the United Empire So that it's at least seems to be happening here officially and I think I think it's a great addition I mean number one because the matches see being able to see more speedball in will Osprey tag matches trails matches What have you I it's a very exciting prospect. I also think it's great for speedball because I think it elevates him on to a more sort of like relevant, you know Level you know just being now essentially number two in this company not unlike Kevin Knight's role in the Don Callis family Which I mean at this point kind of feels like a very natural rivalry for will Osprey to go back to now that you have Kevin Knight and Mike Bailey on opposing sides but having speedball here it just it offers him like a lot of reason to you know enter more multi-person matches and Again, all these future pairings of Osprey and speedball I think will probably be outstanding as tonight's was and Kallen Newman responded to this clip cool The group is a joke again. Can't wait to be asked to lock in and make it good again. Wow damn shots fire at speedball
Maybe this is playing off the press conference where will Osprey said like what's been the biggest thing you've learned? He's like no more Twitter. So he's he's not reading any of this the Kallen Newman knows he's caught free reign on X Did say whatever gets in chess go here. That's the biggest question. Yeah, I mean he didn't get to do a swearing bit here So Osprey said he wasn't paying the fine. No, but several others are probably might be to find for himself later on
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The thing John Foxy does many Xavier eliminator bout they mentioned Xavier's grandmother recently passed away Moxley yeah, which um his Tony content of flowers for in Des actually posted about that. Okay, I see there's a big boot by Moxley and he sends him to the floor And then into the steps and Xavier starts firing these punches and Moxley just goes to him Why don't you fire the fuck up? It's my live coaching right in the moment here. So that's what you get during picture picture Xavier stops a gosh pile driver sends moxley to the floor There's a hand spring off the ropes into a pele and then a big lariat from Moxley running these by Xavier and then the kick out by Moxley into the choke And he turns Xavier away from the rope getting the tap at nine minutes and 53 seconds In terms of moxley TV matches This one did not hit for me. I just felt like there was whatever spark that you usually get out of some of these Eliminators with moxley it was not here. I did not feel they they gelled very well in this one and this is where
Yeah, I thought there was a very good opener that we got with the trios and this kind of brought things down for me I don't disagree and that's unusual for moxley match I feel like I had very high expectations like for for does been a Xavier here and I mean I'm curious like how much truth there was in moxley's words versus just like him speaking character You know because there was an intensity that was like that. I felt like a certain sort of like level of performance that I feel like You know Xavier is capable of that I just it was not a memorable performance It was not a desi when he's Xavier match and it wasn't really much of a John Moxley match It just it felt like two awkward ends putting together a 10-minute match and a rare Miss of a John Moxley match on not bad, but not the level that I think you want no obviously the promo stuff with will was more Important, but you know for your go-home show with moxley like this was very underwhelming Renee interviews Darby and Steven Borden and incomes Adam Copeland who praises both of them And says though that I heard you guys on Saturday state that you want a challenge for the tag titles Well, I have the tag titles. Okay. These guys are number one contenders match
It's kind of assumed that they are gonna go for the tag titles if they win their number one contenders match But because they verbalize this this has raised the ire of Adam Copeland Yes, okay, just so we're all following yes He said you're reaching for legends now and he looks at Borden You should ask your dad what that means and Darby you climb Mount Everest Well me and cage are like to Mount Everest and you can almost just see the body language that I think Darby is so Sick of the Mount Everest references in every promo segment He has to be a part of like it just it was almost like just like okay, ah dude like you know that was the response And he warned Copeland warns them to be careful what they wished for so it is you know It's like Copeland certainly leaning more heel now at this point, which is which is fine So at the end of this Darby says we accept which I mean answer the confusion a little bit I mean, you know this did make it feel like they just accepted a taking total challenge when I mean They were really just saying like more in general terms We accept the challenge of trying to climb climb these the two edge Christian mountains is what he actually meant
Yeah, but yeah, certainly I also picked up on like the more aggressive and less supportive You know coat promo here and I do feel like they're at least floating with the idea that he is now Maybe you know leaning more towards Christians side of the force rather than you know his pure good Do you think this was a complete red herring of a segment? Yes, very possibly yeah Because yeah, this this completely assumes that they were leaving you know the DLC matches champions when I wouldn't see them tipping their hand this This much no the young bucks FDR and Mount Everest come out for our final promo segment to promote the ladder match And so clearly basically says we don't want to be here Let's just wrap this shit up. We just don't want to get fined by our greatest boss ever Tony Matt Jackson says You've got nothing to say or contribute to it all adds up. You guys are the Dudley boys It's almost like now the challenge is Make him talk about us on his show. It was like we'll give you the 3d at all in to ignore and now this line
That I found it more comical than anything. I guess I'm not so like up on The latest Dudley boys gossip like what what is this just like do to bully Ray? Being anti-aw something like is he even anti-aw you can't be anti-aw when you can't talk about a w So that was my assessment of like I don't I don't even know what the content is on busted open radio other than it sounds like There's no a w coverage at all so what did it like the bucks mean when they said what you have nothing to say Therefore you are the Dudley boys. I think it was just like a shot of bubble. I think that's that's all I took it Okay, I don't think why would you rub divan into that as well? What do what is divan do?
I mean, you know what it's that's that's where he finds himself. I mean all right took a screen maybe Matt Well they continue they want to become both both FTR and box want to become four-time champions and next as we're not getting any Younger this might be our last chance to win the belts He says it will be your last opportunity you guys want to be four-time champions We're one-time champions and it's staying that way because we're generational and FTR I've already done your moms So I'm looking forward to meeting the Bucks mother this weekend and then Copeland states that between him and Christian They've had over 40 ladder matches and we are legends and we are still standing Matt says all that is true if the year was 1999 when we all know the last time you jumped off something high you were crippled for a year That was because there was a special There's a special swerve that nobody understood it was all supposed to happen anyway Any any reason to bring a malachite black global impression back That's very disappointed that you decided to recap a whole malachite black interview on Ruanda Smackdown
I would have made myself available, you know, I wish you'd have called you just for that So this is it for Copeland He's how dare you bring up one of my many injuries and a brawl breaks out the bucks super kick the Everest and then security comes out And it's just security getting murdered through a table and it comes off a ladder There's a concerto this poor guy they just security gets murdered and that's how the sense I can share it was a pretty big boo, you know, I will never see the security guard again I think this was it from I think he died. He was it he was a casualty of war But again, like I mean it's their version of the point isn't it, you know, so I mean here like Copeland willingly doing it like Again, maybe meant to you know this show you that this is more aggressive cope than you can see Yeah, so this is the the CLT match on Saturday They can't even get away with that it seems probably not it's just the ladder match that might have some tables and ladders involved as well The segment was the segment. I think people are it's the match that is selling you on this But I do feel I think they really could do the box get their win here And I think if you were to do the box against Darby and stay and Stephen Borden
I mean, that's the recreation basically of things retirement match You could build that up to be you know if you're going with this Stephen Borden blue chip prospect I mean he should get the title shot like it's If you're going this direction, I don't know if it would have been my choice to go this way of him Just going over everybody, but they've kind of made that decision You know, they are yeah, it's a lot, you know, it's what a guy into it And again, they must be incredibly confident in his abilities But it also offers like again an interesting story to tell a guy who is fresh and really vulnerable I think like in the way that sting was and seeing how he would do in the deep end So yeah, we're gonna interviews will she mentioned she's two and two with Mercedes money and wants to settle that score But first she has to get past tecla and brings up beating her at redemption the last time they fought To masa champa and Jake Doyle So these are just a lot of matches where it's the guy was a big match on the pay-per-view Based on someone that he's not gonna win, but kind of doing competitive matches That was a lot of the matchmaking on this show so Champa is he's favoring his neck and shoulder So they're teasing that maybe he was hurt here and he can go into the pay-per-view injured
It's a psycho driller off the turnbuckle and then does the rainmaker pose gives the middle finger to Doyle And then champa does an ocata style drop kick the knee pad comes out caught with a sit-out power bomb And then he blocks a sideways sidewalk slam from Doyle lands with a knee running Easter Reich to win in 908 And then champa says that he and ocata lived on different islands in 2018 and this was a dream match and No longer do people have to ask what if because now they live on the same island and he calls ocata to come out now So ocata comes out he says you are not getting the rainmaker tonight. I'm so sorry But he will get what he wants on Saturday and he shows he will show champa that you are not on my level bitch So champa says ocata is getting a version of the psycho killer that no one's ever seen and he's going to expose ocata bitch Mm-hmm So unlike in this version of champa, I mean, I guess very quietly after the Jericho feud, you know He's just kind of turned babyface at least for this program And it's working out really well because you know He's developed a bit of a heelish edge as part of like this first chapter of his a w run
And he's been able to retain that now, you know Maybe more positioned as a sort of fan friendly or at least like doing the same sort of thing playing the same sort of gimmick But now doing it in a way that makes us like intentionally like it and it's working out really well It's kind of reminding you of like, you know, some of the best versions of Tomasa chop at NXT I also love the fact that like he didn't let ocata get the last word in with the whole bitch thing which to me I think really Certainly running its course, you know, it still gets a reaction But I mean this many years into ocata's run I feel like he can ball the problem a little bit take a few more chances But instead of having champa at least like get the last word in I thought chopper said it really good and um, I don't know Like you know the reference to 2018 man, that's a long time ago I know that's when he brought that up. Oh my gosh like we're going way back. Yeah, but I don't know if this is a dream Match people were talking about it. I don't think so either But I mean the point is okay, he was at the top of that He was at the top of the day and they're in their companies. It's not a far fetched statement to compare to you know When you talk about the baby face turn, I think we we got like we saw the baby face turn with baby I think that was the baby face turn for champa. Oh, yeah, yeah, maybe yeah, maybe yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to this match
I'm really hoping they just go all out in in this match like you get the This is yeah from the pun like you get the sense This is this was probably feels like a big match for champa and I don't know they're gonna get time on the show So hopefully this is I can see this one really standing out on I will certainly say in every one of the most of choppers His appearances so far in a w the man has looked driven He's looked inspired to do something special every time like he's still very much in a place right now where you can tell that he still wants To prove something right and he's I'm sure looking at this as like a major opportunity in a firm self-injury match I'm sure I don't doubt he's probably in a very similar mindset as Kevin seen at the moment of knowing that like You know, I'm not getting any younger I've had some some big injuries and you don't know how many more of these that you will get I think this guy's here in a w4 Probably knows he's not probably gonna go another like eight years The same distance from 2018, but you know for the next three I think he's going to you know just try and put put together some like big matches that anytime he's in doubt He's gonna think about planking and realize I'm in a much better position Yeah, hello, hello, hello, David Portman here from Poison Rana
We cover NXT every Tuesday night on the post wrestling feed in a show we call up next but we do so much more Follow Poison Rana pod on YouTube wherever you get your podcasts for our live Sunday show plus our Patreon with movie reviews retro wrestling reviews and more Find out everything at poison Rana dot CA Persephone and high-end for the TVS Championship We have Brit Baker on commentary if you missed this was Baker like just burying high-end for the entire commentary She has no idea how to pronounce her name and says it sounds like a pharmaceutical drug or Ryan with an H It's like was that like a subtle high and greasy reference Doubtful, but I mean who else maybe um anyway They mentioned that my world has been out since a rebel rebel heart and it's just out they wish her well like there was no explanation I'm like what she's injured with her what happened just she we wish her well So there's a dive by high and under the middle rope Persephone takes over hits a cabrata and she's getting frustrated There was a rough looking back suplex by high end one of the old uh didn't get all of that one from the commentators Spear by high end for a two and then she misses a running the end to the corner and Persephone gets on top hooks the legs grabbing the bottom rope
As she sneaks past high end in eight minutes and 51 seconds But don't don't think this is the end because we are gonna get a big showdown next week when Brit Baker wrestles in Pittsburgh with Persephone against high and greasy and Thunder Hosa. Oh very nice. Yeah. Um, well no heat for this one And there's simply not enough recognition for high-end and you know Understandably this was to be my world spot right and high-end stepping in you know to replace her of course It makes a lot of sense But you're going to get reactions like this for a singles mess for high-end who they've done very little groundwork to really establish and kind of make People care about so and Persephone as well is not a star yet You know to be able to like maybe make up for that Um, but that's it I felt like both like put in strong effort in a match like this and I think Persephone shows the ability of somebody who will be a star But simply just isn't there yet, but and I don't know she's gonna get there with this Brit Baker combo because I just I still think they're So much of chemistry and I still fail to understand what exactly Brits motivations are for pairing with Persephone Of course, this could all be in service of a future term I understand but I need maybe a little bit more like understanding about why they got together and what exactly is
Mm-hmm is Why why this is going on, you know, can you? Like if I were to pitch you this way Brit Baker's been gone for almost two years We're bringing her back at the biggest show of the year probably gonna get a big response when she comes back It's been a long enough time. So what do we have coming up though? Well, we've got this rebel heart show with like her on-screen best friend and then we're going to Pittsburgh He'll make some sense. I understand. I don't I don't know I imagine I look forward to the interview
You know that whatever discussion at some point that might reveal exactly what was in the works I can't imagine this is the first choice or the first option for bit Baker, you know, it's just been a baffling return And I can't say it's been Clicking in any any way. We'll ask rain speedball the United Empire themselves against Claudio Castagnoli and Gabe Kid So Bailey in his green black and gold United Empire attire. It's almost like they tip them off in advance about this initiation Again, maybe he just carries every color and it's good. He might so Osprey and Bailey are working in tandem. These guys were great together I mean Osprey's probably never going to need a you know a tag run But if he ever does I would go for three months as a dynamite main event a collage or main event Yeah, like this is kind of perfect, isn't it? It's the perfect kind of thing to just put Osprey in again a tag on dynamite that he doesn't have to go all out
And I keep stating that term over but you know it serves a purpose Claudio yanks will off the apron as they're working over Bailey kid bites his foot and mocks is on commentary comparing this to a weird Japanese game show I'm sure there was a sure that we're sure that we're seeing a max c maybe Hot tag is made to Osprey and he had to handspring corkscrew in to carry on the kid ducks to hidden blade And it's Osprey and Bailey going for arm bars at the same time Claudio lifts Bailey dropping them on to Osprey to break it up and it's a European pop-up onto Osprey Bailey's in for the save and then we get the finish where Claudio goes for the giant swing and will counters the giant swing by Basically crunching up into a swinging DDT and follows with a styles clash in 13 minutes and 39 seconds And I really like that he's winning with the styles clash that it's not just an impressive near fall Then he's adding it as like this can end a match It's so simple and not enough people Do it and the styles clash has been like it's like no one of an age I can win matches with this thing
And I'm glad that's now a finish yeah Your TV should be the place where you build credibility for those secondary moves right and to do it on somebody like Claudia Who like I think is pretty high, you know if you're looking at like lower made a venture slash like upper midcard You know it's a win it with so I thought that was very strong I thought the finish was spectacular and again very creative and completely unexpected to go from the big swing into a swing DDT So I thought like Bailey and Osprey look great together as did like Claudia and kid who again kid I think totally passes like you know father and Claudia had a kid like back in high school that he just you know He ignored and Switzerland I would just the entire death riders, you know kind of have this like bald hair bald head You know you could call the team Claudia's kid okay. All right. Yeah, you could you could do that Dude, it's 1240. Yeah, it's really yeah, we saw the whole hour the ring. Osprey gets on the mic He's grateful for the fans at first He's saying I want to thank all of you for coming here because there was a time this didn't this place didn't exist
I was like what Fisher's is talking about a w I thought he was I think Fisher's been around a lot longer than most of these people here But anyway, he was talking about a w and he says that a w began with John Moxley And he thanks John for teaching him that for all the guidance for being the ace and breaking me to make me the man I am today and teaching me that this belt is what it's all about He has risked his life for it and he is here to attack for the next generation and Moxley has been dumped in the ocean with a great white shark This Saturday because now John you're the challenger So moxley gets up he enters the ring and he asks do you feel like the champion and Gabe tries to jump Osprey, but instead gets taken out with a hidden blade will just stands up in Moxley's face. You're damn fucking right I feel like the champion F bomb and that's how you end your two plus hour dynamite apparently like WBD execs were there as well as Tony Con stated on an x-live stream. So I mean maybe they got a live approval from those executives did Nick Wayne get the approval to I
I'm not sure. I'm sure they were like okay. We'll osprey and Nick Wayne they get carte blanche on the show They can say whatever they want and and that wrapped up the show So yeah, this closing segment was somewhat interesting in that like I mean this whole story has been you know We'll operate now as champion has gained of completely brand new confidence And now you have Moxley sort of like facing the monster that he's created. That's that's the story, right? Um and I find that somewhat unusual because usually like heading to a paper view match on the go home show That's when you build the heat, right?
That's when like you see that the champion get beat down the challenger like threatened to actually be the champion you beat the champion You didn't get that at all here. It was still like this whole thing has been about will osprey standing tall You know look at me now You can't beat me challenger and John Moxley like kind of being unsure of himself, you know for really the first time Um, so I find that to be really fascinating hook I'm also expecting like something big to happen at the beginning moments of this match to really kind of put us around the back foot Because it just feels unusual to have like a baby face champion heading to the match so overly confident You know what I mean or at least like overly determined, you know, I don't know maybe we got a bloodbath I think we will yeah, this will be the main event, right? Of course, they'll be blood All right, so we're gonna go to your feedback now and uh we go backstage Jack Perry main event. It's the main event Yes, we got a Jack Perry who says apparently some old Joe doesn't speak for himself I've got to go through Shabbat and I was like, please don't like just bury this match But he doesn't he says I want to be among the killers and Chabat is one of the biggest killers I must survive him so that's the match we're getting on on Saturday tailgate the tailgate Yeah, we're neighboring's out the brawling birds and divine dominion for tea time and
Bain says that they don't deserve the tag titles you call yourselves undefeated But we've beaten you one-on-one and we're gonna beat you within an inch of your lives And there goes the tea set and they just brawled just enough inside I know this was pretty awful actually like it's like we had no idea for anything It's just like okay. We're gonna brawl at the end It's like did any you go into this so so like this was I think it's really stupid like the more I really think about it Like this was divine dominion setting up the tea and biscuits They said they took credit for this as a I don't know like a final parting treat or something And actually like it's not like they just put it there actually a sipping tea and like you know the biscuits like what and of course This is real team. Maybe they got like you know burns Clearly I mean of course all excuse for them to smash each other over the heads with like the table and in the deep on all that But it just felt so contrived I think like divine dominion as well They lose their aura once they start talking because they're not nearly as developed as as talkers as they are maybe in ring Right so I think the facade really does start to break down You know because I mean they're just not that great and ring and I didn't think the promo tonight was very good either
I just I thought this was just a bad second. I thought it looked really rinky think to just the way they brought up the table It was like they didn't even like decorate the ring or anything. It was just it was bad. It was bad I don't even want to advocate for putting more resources into this is nothing A lot of this like build for like the undercard was very uninspired in this final hour Where's just like some excuse to get them out there to like brawl or hit each other and like they're not very well thought out excuses To justify these scenes the conglomeration are in the back. This was from last Wednesday and Roderick is sick of this shit He's not happy for brodido and hangman. We are champions and I'm not gonna be happy for them
I can't do this anymore. Yeah, so I mean really kind of spelling out for you like the frustration But I mean I don't know if I'm sensing heel turn as much now like now that they're spelling it out So obviously it's kind of takes like the same away from like an actual turn, right? So yeah, I wonder what this is Kyle Fletcher and Kevin Knight against the outrunners Dalton Castle came out and they just walked in the back So thanks for coming Dalton Turbo Floyd is sent into the steps as they attack truth Magnum and just beat on him for a long portion The highlight being Tony being worried that Magnum was bleeding before he realized no It's just a bad haircut and it's his hair dye Floyd gets the tag they fire up son of a bitch elbow and then it's Fletcher with a running boot brainbuster UFO splash And when you know the guys in the number one contenders match win in nine minutes and eleven seconds against the outrunners So I mean just a big downgrade in terms of just like If whether or not you could even buy it all like or at least just like Interest in the relevance of the match and but I also I thought the outrunners like their ability to get any reaction in this third Hour of the show against guys way above them in rank I do think like shows you how strongly are of an act as on the undercard
You know, I like I think they're great But this was not even an attempt to make you think that this was anything important Renee got into the ring to interview Fletcher and Knight they took the microphone away from them and then Darby's music play but they appear in the rafters and they state that They're about to get burned when they run into the fire at all out, which might be a literal threat I think that's next month. Maybe Stephen Borden takes a flaming table. That's gonna endear himself to a All his online fans. He says that Fletcher says he didn't like Kevin Knight at first, but now they're a well-oiled machine or a family And then sorry that was all before Darby's music plays RPG vice already to jump them But instead they're in the rafters and we just get a promo that it's not going to be an upset when Stephen Borden wins in his third match Third match on TV third match on TV. Yeah, his dark matches don't count The main intrigue for me is seeing how Borden handles like the high pressures of pay-per-view, you know Outcomes Chris Jericho at this point I was like we are absolutely getting it over on him because Jericho comes out calls out Nick Wayne and
Nick Wayne starts talking about all the women that are swiping right on him and how Jericho stabs everyone in the back Jericho isn't made for him. He said Jesus Christ, it's okay, dude. I'm like what? Like Wayne just gets into this. It was very long and he tries to psych out Nick Wayne Nick was not very good on the mic here Jericho says he compares the two that we both started out young We traveled the world. We were in the best of the super juniors
I was once an egotistical son of a bitch and he asks him do you know who Nick Bockwinkle is and So of course I know who Nick Bockwinkle is and they he starts a douchebag chant towards Nick and Jericho explains How he was on a show with Nick Bockwinkle when he was 21 in Winnipeg and asked him for advice after the match And he was told you work too fast and do too many moves and my thought was what the hell does he know and Jericho thought He knew it all at 21 but asked himself What would it what would I my career been if I listened to it his advice instead of ignoring it and he says well Nick then Can you imagine Jericho who maybe worked slower and didn't do too many moves like in You like in the cruise division? Oh, that's it's always like the advice will typically come from guys that are like they It's it's well-meaning advice because you don't want to see guys like kill themselves before they can make money But for so many it's like they're not over at this point It's like they're here for a reason and it's like you've got to do It's almost like that is the pain your dues part is like we've got to do this now a lot of guys It's like they're gonna continue because now the quotient is so high but like you're right Jericho should not have been slowing down in
1991 in Winnipeg at that point like there was a reason like he gets booked in Mexico in his early 20s or in For auto-wands or for Japan, but he never actually like told Nick Wayne any advice here He just said well, this is advice. I ignored we didn't really give him any advice I see you saying like what if I had listened to the veteran telling me the advice at that point what I've been more successful But what's he telling Nick? I'm telling Nick to listen to the veteran. Okay, so you've got to listen to me Then I'll tell you what it is do less moves He's so the necklace comes up and Nick is like it was never about the damn necklace Like okay, it's very online and he's furious that he lost to Jericho. It never should have happened and never will again He's like I was wrestling at 12 Fucking and you have never seen a guy so catch himself He says I might have to change myself to beat you Chris So he challenges him to Grand Slam France in two weeks Which is a Tuesday night show by the way folks and they shake on it Jericho pulls him in for this dramatic face-to-face
And the crown starts taking kiss and says you're gonna get the shit kicked out of you in Paris I did not think Nick was very good in the segment at all And frankly I was a little biased because it was like 1038 and this was just going on and on and I knew we had two more matches And I realized like we're gonna way past 11 at this point So even if this started, you know the show at eight o'clock I feel like I would have a similar reaction to you I think I give I try to remind myself that this is a 21 year old, you know doing all this and at 21 I couldn't I couldn't even step on a stage like this. I can't imagine that so I imagine how like this is very difficult I think he's double edged sword of like you're learning like yeah This is like Stephen Borden is like it's like you are in the deep end here And you're gonna be judged in these segments like a Nick Wayne he should look back on this in five years and think that was God awful Yeah, yeah But I mean at this point like seeing this weekly it's getting pretty tough to watch Nick Wayne in these scenes that demand a lot more of him as an actor because I think he's just he's just not there He's like somebody who hasn't done this for that long and these sort of reps trying to gain this level of acting experience
I almost feel guilty seeing it on TV because ideally this would take place in private somewhere else Or at least like on a smaller stage in front of fewer people where he wouldn't be under the sort of scrutiny on a stage against somebody like Chris Jericho I can't say Jericho was that great in this either like I mean the whole thing about the Nick Buckle thing I think it inspired some interest But I don't I thought it was like a loose connection at best and then the very like you got a lot of Jericho Cowniness in this one but douchebag chant which he didn't really try to make a chant But like this I guess it was a bit soft when he heard the crowd got into it like the crowd did start chanting It was a court of crowd Let them chant it crowd loves their corniness But I also got this like very cliched handshake pulling thing at the end was was I didn't think it was very good and also went really long So it was very late to do the segment but anyway, so that's coming up in two weeks in France Renee speaks with high-end and says well you took out my partner my world So I have a new partner and incomes thunder Rosa who will see her and they challenge her and Britt Baker for Pittsburgh next week Sky-blue against Queen Aminata we had Julia Hart and me and Sharakawa in the corners and Mercedes Monet on commentary
Sharakawa and blue argue on the floor Blue hit a suplex to Aminata on the steps I mean these two worked really hard and they by the end of it like I was really impressed that they got the crowd into this because this was A pretty checked out crowd in this third hour, but they they kind of overcame this by the end There's a step up knee against the rope by blue tornado gets blocked And then there's a sky blue drills her with this knee strike the code blue gets stopped And Aminata hits her with the Queen's crown and the hip attack to win Overall, I thought this was this certainly over delivered for what was a really flat third hour for me again Like you know struggle in that it wasn't very high in start power You know is very deep into the show was a very tough spot for them and very I'll say like I think Aminata strikes like they sound great and they alone get a great reaction I know he she does a whole slapping thing, but it's like it's very effective and as a finish It's a big that running cake she does into the ropes is a very convincing finish So I hope they continue to like really just drive that aspect about her being you know Like kind of her calling card because since she's been back I do think like I don't think they built up enough momentum for her
You know as somebody to really like feel special although I don't even think we're supposed to like think of her as like a future opponent for Monet in this right like we're not because Monet was strictly here to Be there for the teclo willow interaction at the end This was also the run-ins after where heart and mean I get involved teclo runs down willow runs down and it's willow Standing tall with Queen Aminata as teclo bales with the triangle of madness and Monet in the backdrop here on the table Who as the champion again, they they really you know have kind of come up with the loosest of reasons for why these closing scenes can happen, right? It's fine in the end it effectively does its job reminding you that teclo and will are facing each other on Saturday with a winner facing Monet yeah, that's fine But I don't know like not much reason Otherwise for for the seat to take place Baker and Persephone referred up high-end and thunder Rosa as dumb for challenging them in Britsburg and Baker says Thunder Rosa you've been around me for five six years. I think we got to wrap this up
So she accepts and Persephone just adds I'm gonna have an open challenge at the pay per view for the TBS title but neither high-end thunder Rosa or my world can challenge for it so it's anyone but her and These two have no chemistry like there is none and somehow in this in this whole comeback to like Baker's like Personality has also like just disappeared here like I thought Persephone came off like more charismatic than brick baker here I don't know this is just it should be brick or wood like in this open challenge I know that won't happen, but they just need to break these two up there's been no cheese of that right and I don't know How that would work, but that would be an interesting little twist maybe she continues to do the open challenge, but I I agree with you I think like I think it's really a handicapped Persephone who I think was doing really well on her own Right in these sort of promos now She just kind of feels like she has to piggyback off of like the brickbreaker salad promo and I'd it just feels like a very unnatural fit really for the both of them Alright what you all came for ace Austin against pack the clothes out the show We have juice Robinson out with the whistle and Taz says I've never seen a guy at ringside with a whistle before
Ha of course he does the squats with pack on his shoulders then does them again as a Debbie downer Taz warns You do too many of those that's how you get a knee replacement And then I swear to God at 11 15 p.m. They go to break which they promises our last break of the night I was like this is Insane the guillotine leg drop by a sauce and rebound German and then packets a belly to belly into the corner and a black arrow to win When you know it and he applies the brutalizer prompting Jay White to run down the dogs and death riders enter followed by the bang bang Gang he puts the brutalizer back on Austin So andrade arrived so we have all the participants from both the national title match and the the tailgate brawl all of them in the ring as Andrade comes from the crowds with tack pack and they head into the crowd and off to Chicago ending the show at 11 25 p.m.
With ex-caliber telling us to stay tuned because coming up next is the countdown show I was like you could not hear me laugh loud enough at the idea of another half hour. That was it We were done And I don't think you ever want to like leave people listen This is you and I okay very jaded professional wrestling critics who have to do this right? I don't know maybe the average person watching this love this three and a half hour experience I don't know specifically speaking for you and I don't think you ever want somebody to leave one of your shows feeling like you Like you having this sort of reaction the bell just rang in schools over like most of the time I finished dynamite and I'm like I'm amped up to talk about it I'm amped up to watch more of it because I felt like I had such a quality two-hour sort of thoughtful thoughtfully put together experience This I agree with you like even just the first two hours was not really among the better cool dynamites We've been seeing very good trios title match like the tag match was fine with us brain Bailey But like for a go-home show it did not inspire me all that much to build up this pay-per-view It's not like to me It was not a level of quality of a regular dynamite and then you tacked on collision that I just found like it to me was like well below
AEW standards for like it's weekly television third hour I thought was a very very low-ever sting, you know, um addition of collision kind of put together like I mean again I It's well and good to like just have the matches But I also look towards like maybe creative reasons to how to like to hide an interest for these matches on paper View and I don't think you really had any of it you had a tea time terrible tea time segment with them I thought like a Jericho nickel and segment that was there to promote a match in two weeks But I thought that was bad I didn't think any of the matches were really all that inspired and like they all ended with I think very predictable closing scenes With no other again nothing really to elevate your interest, you know, and these matches coming up They were just there to remind you hey this matches happening, you know, so I thought the third hour was like frankly pretty bad Yeah, I just thought the function of the home show it's um I thought this was one of the weaker ones for a w at least in recent memory. So there you have it our review of a Dinalision from Fisher's Indiana. We're gonna say goodbye on the YouTube feed But on the other side we are gonna be taking your feedback and I will also quickly run down the well up-to-date card for all out
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