EPISODE · Jun 12, 2026 · 46 MIN
AFTER SHOW: How to Measure Event ROI Without Faking It
from EVENT ABOUT IT: Event Marketing, Strategy & Business Growth · host Megan Martin
Most event teams can't answer the most basic pipeline question. Steph Pennell built the framework. Here's the whole thing.She googled the domain mid-call. Bought it on the spot. A few months later she quit ZoomInfo, flew first class to the south of France with no plan, and came back ready to build something from scratch.This is the Aftershow. It goes deeper.Steph Pennell — The Event Critic — is back for the second half of her conversation with Megan Martin. This time they get into the actual frameworks: how to calculate revenue in the room, how to build a pre-event outreach matrix that segments by audience and relationship stage, how to get BDRs and SDRs to show up for your events, and how to speak the data language that finally makes sales care.Then they get honest about the stuff that doesn't usually make it into the strategy deck — leaving a toxic environment, building a business with no safety net, ADHD in the events industry, and why the F*ck You Fund is one of the most practical moves you can make whether you go out on your own or not.WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:→ The revenue in the room metric: how to break down ARR influenced, expansion pipeline, and net new revenue from a single event → Why most companies would restructure their entire event portfolio if they actually ran the attribution numbers → The outreach matrix: pre-event segmentation by audience type, seniority, and relationship stage — built to run at scale → How to work event registration into BDR and SDR quota so the whole go-to-market team shows up for your program → How to stop reporting attendance and start reporting pipeline — the switch that gets demand gen and finance off your back → What she actually looked at when she told a client to cut five events from their calendar → The F*ck You Fund: what it is, why it matters, and why you should be building yours right nowCHAPTERS:00:00 Welcome to the Aftershow 01:17 The Event Critic: How That Name Actually Happened 04:06 The Biggest Shock Going from B2C to B2B Events 07:28 Why Starting in Sales Made Her a Better Event Leader 11:05 How to Actually Unify Sales and Events (Not Just "Align Earlier") 14:03 Why BDRs and SDRs Are Your Secret Weapon for Event Registration 18:22 Revenue in the Room: The Metric That Changes the Conversation 22:29 The Outreach Matrix: How to Get the Right People in the Room 28:37 Post-Event Follow-Up by Segment 32:30 When You Know It's Time to Leave 34:46 ADHD, Human Design, and Honoring Your Energy 44:54 The F*ck You Fund Is a Business Strategy 46:00 Back of House: A 911 Line for Event Professionals 48:27 Until Next TimeCONNECT WITH STEPH PENNELL: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theeventcritic/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bystephpennell/Website: www.byingenue.com🔗 LINKS & RESOURCESSubscribe to Event About It: https://eventaboutitpodcast.com Submit a story or moment from the field: https://eventaboutitpodcast.com Follow Megan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meganmartincmpFollow Megan on Instagram: @m2dynamics and @eventaboutitABOUT EVENT ABOUT IT: Event About It is the podcast for B2B event marketers, demand gen leaders, field marketers, and anyone who needs their events to do more than look good in the recap deck. Hosted by Megan Martin of M Squared Dynamics, each episode connects event strategy to pipeline influence, revenue, and event-led growth — with enough personality to make it worth your Friday commute.New episodes every Friday.Submit a story or moment from the field: www.eventaboutitpodcast.com#EventROI #EventMarketing #B2BEvents #EventStrategy #EventLedGrowth #DemandGeneration #FieldMarketing #GoToMarket #EventMeasurement #B2BMarketing
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Most event teams can't answer the most basic pipeline question. Steph Pennell built the framework. Here's the whole thing.She googled the domain mid-call. Bought it on the spot. A few months later she quit ZoomInfo, flew first class to the south of France with no plan, and came back ready to build something from scratch.This is the Aftershow. It goes deeper.Steph Pennell — The Event Critic — is back for the second half of her conversation with Megan Martin. This time they get into the actual frameworks: how to calculate revenue in the room, how to build a pre-event outreach matrix that segments by audience and relationship stage, how to get BDRs and SDRs to show up for your events, and how to speak the data language that finally makes sales care.Then they get honest about the stuff that doesn't usually make it into the strategy deck — leaving a toxic environment, building a business with no safety net, ADHD in the events industry, and why the F*ck You Fund is one of the most practical moves you can make whether you go out on your own or not.WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:→ The revenue in the room metric: how to break down ARR influenced, expansion pipeline, and net new revenue from a single event → Why most companies would restructure their entire event portfolio if they actually ran the attribution numbers → The outreach matrix: pre-event segmentation by audience type, seniority, and relationship stage — built to run at scale → How to work event registration into BDR and SDR quota so the whole go-to-market team shows up for your program → How to stop reporting attendance and start reporting pipeline — the switch that gets demand gen and finance off your back → What she actually looked at when she told a client to cut five events from their calendar → The F*ck You Fund: what it is, why it matters, and why you should be building yours right nowCHAPTERS:00:00 Welcome to the Aftershow 01:17 The Event Critic: How That Name Actually Happened 04:06 The Biggest Shock Going from B2C to B2B Events 07:28 Why Starting in Sales Made Her a Better Event Leader 11:05 How to Actually Unify Sales and Events (Not Just "Align Earlier") 14:03 Why BDRs and SDRs Are Your Secret Weapon for Event Registration 18:22 Revenue in the Room: The Metric That Changes the Conversation 22:29 The Outreach Matrix: How to Get the Right People in the Room 28:37 Post-Event Follow-Up by Segment 32:30 When You Know It's Time to Leave 34:46 ADHD, Human Design, and Honoring Your Energy 44:54 The F*ck You Fund Is a Business Strategy 46:00 Back of House: A 911 Line for Event Professionals 48:27 Until Next TimeCONNECT WITH STEPH PENNELL: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theeventcritic/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bystephpennell/Website: www.byingenue.com🔗 LINKS & RESOURCESSubscribe to Event About It: https://eventaboutitpodcast.com Submit a story or moment from the field: https://eventaboutitpodcast.com Follow Megan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meganmartincmpFollow Megan on Instagram: @m2dynamics and @eventaboutitABOUT EVENT ABOUT IT: Event About It is the podcast for B2B event marketers, demand gen leaders, field marketers, and anyone who needs their events to do more than look good in the recap deck. Hosted by Megan Martin of M Squared Dynamics, each episode connects event strategy to pipeline influence, revenue, and event-led growth — with enough personality to make it worth your Friday commute.New episodes every Friday.Submit a story or moment from the field: www.eventaboutitpodcast.com#EventROI #EventMarketing #B2BEvents #EventStrategy #EventLedGrowth #DemandGeneration #FieldMarketing #GoToMarket #EventMeasurement #B2BMarketing
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