EPISODE · Aug 16, 2024 · 20 MIN
AH031 - Dissecting Pharmacy Cost Drivers and the Value of PMPM, with Kristin Begley, PharmD, and Mike Miele FSA, MAAA
from The Astonishing Healthcare Podcast
In this episode of the Astonishing Healthcare podcast, Justin Venneri sits down with Kristen Begley, PharmD, Chief Commercial Officer, and Michael Miele, FSA, MAAA, Senior Vice President of Insured Services, for a discussion about some of the finer points of pharmacy benefit management (PBM) procurement and pharmacy program cost evaluation, including how misaligned incentives can drive costs higher than they should be for plan sponsors. They delve into the misleading nature of focusing on unit costs and high rebates and advocate for a per member per month (PMPM) model to gain a clearer picture of true costs and hold PBMs accountable.Kristin and Mike suggest ways to update and improve legacy PBM evaluation methods, encouraging stakeholders to more carefully consider everything from the questionnaires leveraged to screen potential PBM partners to the true value of clinical programs for utilization management - such as prior authorization - and the actual number of units used to forecast spending.Related PMPM Content:AH010 - The Power of PMPM: Holding PBMs Accountable for Total Drug Spend, with Kristin Begley, PharmDPMPM - Is It the Best Way to Measure or Track Anything?PBM Procurement: A PMPM Guide for Plans Sponsors eBookVisit Capital Rx Insights for this episode's transcript and additional content!
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In this episode of the Astonishing Healthcare podcast, Justin Venneri sits down with Kristen Begley, PharmD, Chief Commercial Officer, and Michael Miele, FSA, MAAA, Senior Vice President of Insured Services for a discussion about some of the finer points of pharmacy benefit management (PBM) procurement and pharmacy program cost evaluation, including how misaligned incentives can drive costs higher than they should be for plan sponsors. They delve into the misleading nature of focusing on unit costs and high rebates and advocate for a per member per month (PMPM) model to gain a clearer picture of true costs and hold PBMs accountable.
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