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EPISODE · Jun 11, 2026 · 45 MIN

AI Agents Are Implemented, Not Adopted

from The Data Exchange with Ben Lorica · host Ben Lorica

Ben Lorica speaks with Hamza Tahir, co-founder of Kitaru, about what it takes to move AI agents from demos to production. They discuss the difference between workflows and agents, why “harness engineering” is becoming a useful frame for application builders, and why long-running agent workloads require orchestration, durable execution, retries, state management, and human-in-the-loop semantics.Subscribe to the Gradient Flow Newsletter 📩  https://gradientflow.substack.com/Subscribe: Apple · Spotify · Overcast · Pocket Casts · AntennaPod · Podcast Addict · Amazon ·  RSS.Detailed show notes and transcript, can be found on The Data Exchange web site.

Ben Lorica speaks with Hamza Tahir, co-founder of Kitaru, about what it takes to move AI agents from demos to production. They discuss the difference between workflows and agents, why “harness engineering” is becoming a useful frame for application builders, and why long-running agent workloads require orchestration, durable execution, retries, state management, and human-in-the-loop semantics. Subscribe to the Gradient Flow Newsletter 📩 https://gradientflow.substack.com/ Subscribe: App...

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