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EPISODE · Aug 20, 2025 · 50 MIN

AI Couldn’t Summarize Depositions – Until Now, with John Campbell

from The Fred Files

Imagine you’ve got a big case and you want a summary of every deposition. “The first temptation might be, ‘Well, I'll just throw my depo into an AI, and I'll have it summarize it.’ But if you've ever tried that, it would choke on the depo.” That’s how John Campbell describes the problem. His expertise comes from pioneering the use of big data in litigation and writing JuryBall, the groundbreaking book about big data, with his wife, “The Fred Files” co-host Alicia Campbell. His solution? A deposition summarization tool called Res Ipsa AI, which he developed with software engineer Kevin Doran, another member of “The Fred Files” team. John and Kevin join Alicia and empirical legal scholar Nick Schweitzer to give a behind-the-scenes look at this tool that transforms 100-page depositions into 10-page interactive summaries with hyperlinks to original testimony. “What we started thinking about was, what if we could build a tool that’s not a Swiss army knife; it doesn't do a thousand things?” John explains. Their tool does one thing: summarize depositions, quickly and accurately.Connect with Fred☑️ John Campbell☑️ Campbell Law LLC☑️ Alicia Campbell☑️ Nick Schweitzer☑️ Kevin Doran☑️ Focus with Fred☑️ Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTubeProduced and Powered by LawPods

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