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EPISODE · Jun 4, 2025 · 1H 9M

AI DEBATE: Runaway Superintelligence or Normal Technology? | Daniel Kokotajlo vs Arvind Narayanan

from Limitless: An AI Podcast · host Limitless

Two visions for the future of AI clash in this debate between Daniel Kokotajlo and Arvind Narayanan. Is AI a revolutionary new species destined for runaway superintelligence, or just another step in humanity’s technological evolution—like electricity or the internet? Daniel, a former OpenAI researcher and author of AI 2027, argues for a fast-approaching intelligence explosion. Arvind, a Princeton professor and co-author of AI Snake Oil, contends that AI is powerful but ultimately controllable and slow to reshape society. Moderated by Ryan and David, this conversation dives into the crux of capability vs. power, economic transformation, and the future of democratic agency in an AI-driven world.------💫 LIMITLESS | SUBSCRIBE & FOLLOWhttps://limitless.bankless.com/https://x.com/LimitlessFT------TIMESTAMPS0:00 Intro1:38 IS AI Normal Tech?27:13 Capability & Power39:48 Manageable or Existential?47:32 AGI Milestone55:28 AI by 20301:07:03 Making Sense1:11:05 Closing & Disclaimers------RESOURCESDaniel Kokotajlo https://x.com/dkokotajlo Arvind Narayananhttps://x.com/random_walkerTwo Paths For AI - Danielhttps://www.newyorker.com/culture/open-questions/two-paths-for-ai AI as Normal Technology - Arvindhttps://knightcolumbia.org/content/ai-as-normal-technology AI 2027 - Danielhttps://ai-2027.com/ AI Snake Oil - Arvindhttps://www.aisnakeoil.com/ https://www.amazon.com/Snake-Oil-Artificial-Intelligence-Difference/dp/069124913X Pause AIhttps://pauseai.info/pdoom ------Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here:https://www.bankless.com/disclosures⁠ 

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