AI, Governance & Cybersecurity Culture: Why People and Process Still Matter Most

Podcast: PrOTect It All (LS 27 · TOP 10% what is this?)Episode: AI, Governance & Cybersecurity Culture: Why People and Process Still Matter MostPub date: 2025-12-15Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationCybersecurity has evolved from an afterthought to a business-critical responsibility - and AI is accelerating that shift faster than most organizations are ready for. In this episode of Protect It All, host Aaron Crow sits down with Sue McTaggart, a cybersecurity leader with a software development background and more than 15 years of experience driving security transformation. Together, they explore how cybersecurity success today depends less on shiny new tools and more on culture, governance, and fundamentals done right. Sue shares her journey from developer to cybersecurity leader, offering real-world insights into embedding security thinking into everyday work - not bolting it on after something breaks. The conversation tackles the realities of AI adoption, the risks of over-automation, and why human oversight and curiosity remain essential in an increasingly automated world. You’ll learn: Why technology alone can’t fix cybersecurity problems How to embed a security-first mindset across teams and leadership What AI changes - and what it doesn’t - in cybersecurity governance The role of Zero Trust and foundational cyber hygiene Why people, process, and accountability prevent more breaches than tools How generational shifts and curiosity shape the future of cyber careers Whether you’re a security leader, technologist, or business decision-maker navigating AI adoption, this episode delivers grounded, practical wisdom for building resilience that lasts. Tune in to learn why strong cybersecurity still starts with people, not platform,s only on Protect It All. Key Moments: 01:12 Cybersecurity Evolution and Insights 03:51 "Cybersecurity Requires Culture Shift" 07:09 "Tech Failures and Curfew Challenges" 10:30 "Prioritizing Security in AI Development" 15:05 Cybersecurity's Role in Everything 19:37 "Everything is Sales" 23:54 Adapting Communication for Audiences 26:26 "Think Ahead, Stay Curious." 28:30 Tinkering and Curiosity Unleashed 31:32 "Gen Z: Redefining Work and Life." 36:17 Governing AI: Benefits and Risks 37:59 AI Needs Human Oversight 42:35 "AI's Role in Cybersecurity." 47:25 "Hackers Exploit Basic Vulnerabilities." About the guest: Sue McTaggart is a passionate educator and cybersecurity professional with a strong background in software development. Her curiosity and desire to raise awareness led her to transition from developing applications primarily in languages like Java in the early 2000s to the field of cybersecurity. Sue is dedicated to empowering others through education and strives to share her knowledge to help others better understand cybersecurity risks and solutions. She is honored and humbled by opportunities to speak about her work and continues to inspire those around her with her commitment to ongoing learning and public awareness. How to connect Sue: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sue-mctaggart-24604158/ Connect With Aaron Crow: Website: www.corvosec.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaronccrow Learn more about PrOTect IT All: Email: [email protected]  Website: https://protectitall.co/  X: https://twitter.com/protectitall  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PrOTectITAll  FaceBook:  https://facebook.com/protectitallpodcast  To be a guest or suggest a guest/episode, please email us at [email protected] Please leave us a review on Apple/Spotify Podcasts: Apple   - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/protect-it-all/id1727211124 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1Vvi0euj3rE8xObK0yvYi4The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Aaron Crow | Operational Technology & Cybersecurity Host, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.